Why 343I cut content.

Hi Guys, Did some more thinking recently (again).

A lot of people point there figure at 343i like they are some evil corporation like EA, Activision, Bungie (sellouts). The lack of content at the launch of Halo 5 was scary. Many people thought this was 343i trying to make Halo what THEY want. After the colossal throwback of Halo 4 & MCC, 343i had one more chance to get this game right or for sure it would be over! So Instead of launching everything all at once in Halo 5, they stepped back and let people preach for what they wanted most. Allowing 343i to progressively develop Halo 5 how WE want it. A lot of people are mad about this, but after thinking about it. I’m pretty greatfull! Sadly I do belive Halo 5 is just a Huge Beta for Halo 6. They want to make sure by the end of Halo 5 They get all the feedback correct and impliment it into the next installment, making its huge comeback to the market.

Feel free to comment your thoughts guys! Its not all doom and gloom, and once you look past the rage filter on your eyes you might see all they are doing is trying to do it right!

That’s the problem… the Halo 5 beta was supposed to be for community feedback. Not Halo 5.

I feel Microsoft dipped into H5 little too much that may have caused the lack of content at lanuch. Also maybe it was because of a deadline and the other content wasn’t properly tested and was not gold yet. We will never know, people will claim laziness or whatever which could be the case but with the amount of bugs and testing needed to ensure greatness, I can wait.

that game are good, but online experience is very bad.

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> That’s the problem… the Halo 5 beta was supposed to be for community feedback. Not Halo 5.

Kinda, It was meant for the game play. I’m not justifying the fact leaving out content is a good idea.

Your theory makes me dislike them even more.

Halo 5 in general to me doesn’t feel like halo. It feels more like someone put CoD titanfall and a mixture of other games into a particle accelerator and tried to see what came out.

Also HALO 5 wasn’t finished.

Once again, the only content that was missing from this game at launch was a couple of gametypes and forge. Otherwise there was nothing missing! It would have a little more content than the ever so mighty and all wonderful Halo 3 at its launch. Everything else cut from the game is the standard stuff that is always cut, to never return.

People just seem to say missing content without actually explaining what was missing.

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> Once again, the only content that was missing from this game at launch was a couple of gametypes and forge. Otherwise there was nothing missing! It would have a little more content than the ever so mighty and all wonderful Halo 3 at its launch. Everything else cut from the game is the standard stuff that is always cut, to never return.

Not sure if serious or sarcastic… Edit: nevermind, I read your edited post.

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> That’s the problem… the Halo 5 beta was supposed to be for community feedback. Not Halo 5.

exactly

What content did they cut? They didn’t cut anything imo… they are just releasing it in monthly updates. Also one thing that may have hindered some content is that disaster releases of MCC. Some may have had to put off finishing touches on H5 while trying to band aid MCC.

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> What content did they cut? They didn’t cut anything imo… they are just releasing it in monthly updates. Also one thing that may have hindered some content is that disaster releases of MCC. Some may have had to put off finishing touches on H5 while trying to band aid MCC.

Really? Oddball, King of the Hill, Race, Infection, Dominion, Regicide, Juggernaut do not ring a bell? 343i had about a year since the Halo 5 Beta, and it seems that the Halo 5 development team didn’t use it to make those modes. And if my faulty reasoning is correct, 343i didn’t send everybody on the H5 development team to go fix the MCC, instead sending those who they could afford to do without to go band aid the MCC.

my only concern is the lack of offline capabilities due to the greed of the money hunger machine that 343 has created. We should be given the options of offline play or online play. Either way they have our money so why not?

I have seen almost every game post 2012 that is labeled “a beta game that you pay 60$ for.” Are those games incomplete by fan standards, yep. But here we are still paying 60$ 3 years later in hope that games won’t feel like betas and we will continue to be dissapointed. When halo 6 comes out I will 100% bet without a doubt that if so much as 1 feature from h6 is missing or feels unfinished then people will say the game is a beta.

My issue with your theory is “if” 343 is using h5 as a “beta” to test out what will and what won’t work for h6, they should’ve mentioned it as not everyone is a big fan of an incomplete product (especially when it was advertised to be a great game and hyped up a lot). It would’ve saved them a lot of negative vibes if they said h5 was a work in progress game and if they advertised it to a way to establish a foundation for h6. That’s if 343 truly is using h5 as a “beta” or experiment game.

i don’t however think that’s what they’re doing. I honestly think it was a game that should’ve been delayed before releasing being how that first impression matters quite a lot to a game. H5 is a great game IMO, but to the mass it lacks so much and downgraded in so many other areas. I think h5s gameplay is it’s saving grace (opinion, not speaking for everyone but from my view it seems a lot can put up with lack of content and such because gameplay is great).

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> > What content did they cut? They didn’t cut anything imo… they are just releasing it in monthly updates. Also one thing that may have hindered some content is that disaster releases of MCC. Some may have had to put off finishing touches on H5 while trying to band aid MCC.
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> Really? Oddball, King of the Hill, Race, Infection, Dominion, Regicide, Juggernaut do not ring a bell? 343i had about a year since the Halo 5 Beta, and it seems that the Halo 5 development team didn’t use it to make those modes. And if my faulty reasoning is correct, 343i didn’t send everybody on the H5 development team to go fix the MCC, instead sending those who they could afford to do without to go band aid the MCC.

alrighty I am going to stop right there and call bull. I specifically remember a Community Feedback survey asking about launch playlist, wiether they be few or many. I choose few and seeing how few the playlists were at launch I bet others did too. So -Yoink- no it’s not their fault it’s ours. They were listening to us and we made the wrong choice. And yes I am going to get flagged for talking about the survey but this blame needs to stop and responsibility be taken.

As for MCC go complain to Havok, Saber, Certain Affinity, and Blur Studios. 343i and bungie only had their names on that game because they made halo 1-4 and to avoid copy right issues. Did 343i sponsor it? Yes but they didn’t make it.

Never cut content really. Simple marketing, they know that paid DLC will destroy playlists so the only way that a FPSs can have the effect DLC once had to games is to do content drops even if they held back content we’ll still get it. Think how beloved games like infection are by holding the most popular things back should bring more people to the game later on in it’s life

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> Hi Guys, Did some more thinking recently (again).
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> A lot of people point there figure at 343i like they are some evil corporation like EA, Activision, Bungie (sellouts). The lack of content at the launch of Halo 5 was scary. Many people thought this was 343i trying to make Halo what THEY want. After the colossal throwback of Halo 4 & MCC, 343i had one more chance to get this game right or for sure it would be over! So Instead of launching everything all at once in Halo 5, they stepped back and let people preach for what they wanted most. Allowing 343i to progressively develop Halo 5 how WE want it. A lot of people are mad about this, but after thinking about it. I’m pretty greatfull! Sadly I do belive Halo 5 is just a Huge Beta for Halo 6. They want to make sure by the end of Halo 5 They get all the feedback correct and impliment it into the next installment, making its huge comeback to the market.
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> Feel free to comment your thoughts guys! Its not all doom and gloom, and once you look past the rage filter on your eyes you might see all they are doing is trying to do it right!

This is all guessing in hope for betterment. Now, personally I would have enjoyed the game better and longer from start if they separated the game modes and had memorable maps, I disliked almost every map I played. As for EA and them, I played BF4, I really enjoyed the maps, got the DLC, and in the end, played nothing but the maps that came with game.

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> > > What content did they cut? They didn’t cut anything imo… they are just releasing it in monthly updates. Also one thing that may have hindered some content is that disaster releases of MCC. Some may have had to put off finishing touches on H5 while trying to band aid MCC.
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> > Really? Oddball, King of the Hill, Race, Infection, Dominion, Regicide, Juggernaut do not ring a bell? 343i had about a year since the Halo 5 Beta, and it seems that the Halo 5 development team didn’t use it to make those modes. And if my faulty reasoning is correct, 343i didn’t send everybody on the H5 development team to go fix the MCC, instead sending those who they could afford to do without to go band aid the MCC.
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> alrighty I am going to stop right there and call bull. I specifically remember a Community Feedback survey asking about launch playlist, wiether they be few or many. I choose few and seeing how few the playlists were at launch I bet others did too. So -Yoink- no it’s not their fault it’s ours. They were listening to us and we made the wrong choice. And yes I am going to get flagged for talking about the survey but this blame needs to stop and responsibility be taken.
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> As for MCC go complain to Havok, Saber, Certain Affinity, and Blur Studios. 343i and bungie only had their names on that game because they made halo 1-4 and to avoid copy right issues. Did 343i sponsor it? Yes but they didn’t make it.

i like this guy. take a stand for the reasonable people.

also those game types can’t be that hard to make, id imagine, at the highest level of game development. so to me that says that they have a deliberate and thought out plan for game type release or cut.

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> > > 2533274816788253;11:
> > > What content did they cut? They didn’t cut anything imo… they are just releasing it in monthly updates. Also one thing that may have hindered some content is that disaster releases of MCC. Some may have had to put off finishing touches on H5 while trying to band aid MCC.
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> > Really? Oddball, King of the Hill, Race, Infection, Dominion, Regicide, Juggernaut do not ring a bell? 343i had about a year since the Halo 5 Beta, and it seems that the Halo 5 development team didn’t use it to make those modes. And if my faulty reasoning is correct, 343i didn’t send everybody on the H5 development team to go fix the MCC, instead sending those who they could afford to do without to go band aid the MCC.
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> alrighty I am going to stop right there and call bull. I specifically remember a Community Feedback survey asking about launch playlist, wiether they be few or many. I choose few and seeing how few the playlists were at launch I bet others did too. So -Yoink- no it’s not their fault it’s ours. They were listening to us and we made the wrong choice. And yes I am going to get flagged for talking about the survey but this blame needs to stop and responsibility be taken.
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> As for MCC go complain to Havok, Saber, Certain Affinity, and Blur Studios. 343i and bungie only had their names on that game because they made halo 1-4 and to avoid copy right issues. Did 343i sponsor it? Yes but they didn’t make it.

Well, I never received any Community Feedback survey, so as far as I know, 343i didn’t use the time allotted to them efficiently. You can call bull all you want, it doesn’t change a damn thing. 343i messed up.

And regarding the MCC, Havok, Saber, Certain Affinity, and Blur did their jobs, and did them well. 343i was in charge of putting everything together, developing the networking, and marketed the game. Either 343i came to Microsoft with the idea of a Halo collection, or Microsoft came to them, it doesn’t matter, they were in charge of it, they were the supervisors of the project, and their game failed. It is 343i’s responsibility.