I am all for removing AL from EVERY game type except BTB, but removing armor lock from the most vehicle-tastic gametype is just insane, I haven’t played BTB for a while, and I decide to play for once, and BAM, tiny little list of AA’s, seriously, what good does evade do if my TOE gets hit by a ghost and I get splattered. Yeah, lets give them jet pack so they can fly to insane heights and camp with a sniper, but no, no AL, so if I get a team of absolute people, that dont do anything, and expect me to grow 6 arms and use all the power weapons and drive the vehicles, god forbid I get AL to avoid the RIDICULOUS banshee bomb and vehicle spam that is in BTB. Its in invasion, but no, god forbid it’s in BTB.
Same thing happened to me. I agree.
BTB was the only place Armor Lock was balanced.
Armor Lock MUST be enabled on every map that includes a Rocket Launcher or vehicles. It’s the only way you can counter a Rocket Launcher / Wraith cannon instakill.
> Armor Lock MUST be enabled on every map that includes a Rocket Launcher or vehicles. It’s the only way you can counter a Rocket Launcher / Wraith cannon instakill.
Should a direct hit from a Rocket Launcher or Wraith main cannon have counter, especially one that leaves you unscathed like armor lock?
On topic: I agree, protection from splatters and vehicle weapons is what armor lock should be used for.
AL is only removed from all Objective gametyps and its for obvious reasons.
There is allso this thing called Evade now in Objectives try to use it and you will see how good it is.
> Armor Lock MUST be enabled on every map that includes a Rocket Launcher or vehicles. It’s the only way you can counter a Rocket Launcher / Wraith cannon instakill.
Facepalm to this noob statement.
> AL is only removed from all Objective gametyps and its for obvious reasons.
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> There is allso this thing called Evade now in Objectives try to use it and you will see how good it is.
I remember in Assault, on Zealot, people would camp in space right above the bomb planting zone and then drop down and armor lock to disarm it. Short of holding down space yourself there wasn’t much you could do to stop it.
The only reason I haven’t quit Reach is because AL is no longer in BTB. You can actually splatter people now. If you’ve got a problem with vehicles splattering you, I suggest Evade or Jetpack and this thing called “not being an idiot and running out into the open where a vehicle can mow you down”.
> The only reason I haven’t quit Reach is because AL is no longer in BTB. You can actually splatter people now. If you’ve got a problem with vehicles splattering you, I suggest Evade or Jetpack and this thing called “not being an idiot and running out into the open where a vehicle can mow you down”.
This is what a smart player would do.
> I am all for removing AL from EVERY game type except BTB, but removing armor lock from the most vehicle-tastic gametype is just insane, I haven’t played BTB for a while, and I decide to play for once, and BAM, tiny little list of AA’s, seriously, what good does evade do if my TOE gets hit by a ghost and I get splattered. Yeah, lets give them jet pack so they can fly to insane heights and camp with a sniper, but no, no AL, so if I get a team of absolute people, that dont do anything, and expect me to grow 6 arms and use all the power weapons and drive the vehicles, god forbid I get AL to avoid the RIDICULOUS banshee bomb and vehicle spam that is in BTB. Its in invasion, but no, god forbid it’s in BTB.
I have to say, I’ve heard some pretty laughable complaints, but this? I was literally loling.
“Vehicle-tastic???” Have you played Reach at all? What vehicles? The lone Warthog/Ghost combo on Highlands? The single Scorpion that lasts two seconds because of AA in question and the ridiculously OP DMR? The “many” vehicles on Hemmorhage that are an abomination to what BTB used to be? The Scorpion/Banshee combo on Paradiso that ensure someone is getting spawnkilled, at least for ten seconds before both yield to HANDHELD RIFLES!!!
Give me a break. The only BTB map that NEEDS AL is Hemmorhage, and that is only because the spawns are so ridiculously horrible. We never had AL in H3, or H2, HCE!
I do love the addition of AAs, but vehicles need a hand in this game already.
I genuinely believe that jetpack is more broken than armour lock. Sure armour locks annoying every now and again but its certainly not something thats rage-worthy. Armour lock and then a follow up melee is a great way to combat sword campers or people who rush with sprint and sword as well as people who sprint and double melee. I also think that armour lock is sometimes essential due to the constant wave of grenade spam that seems to happen in reach.
Armour lock also really isn’t hard to beat, people are completely immobile. Its just a waiting game.
Jetpack however allows people to get out of maps, get to places they shouldn’t and camp with the sniper or DMR etc etc. Jetpack also doesn’t take any timing to use like armour lock (Use it once to protect yourself from a grenade or rocket, then come out and go back in when they throw another grenade or fire another rocket).
Everyone just seems to jump on the “I hate armour lock” band wagon.
> Armor Lock MUST be enabled on every map that includes a Rocket Launcher or vehicles. It’s the only way you can counter a Rocket Launcher / Wraith cannon instakill.
You sir, well i dont like you and I was thinking of a word that started with F and ends with IDIOT. Does no one remember Halo 3? What did we do before Armor Abilities? We actually took precautions around vehicles and didnt look to a AA to save us. If you were stupid enough to get in the crosshairs of a Rocket, you were dying. There was no magic button to save you.
This is what I want back from Halo. None of this second change crap. Give skilled players the game back. Cause really, incredible feats in skill have been snuffed out in this game DUE to ARMOR ABILITIES.
> > Armor Lock MUST be enabled on every map that includes a Rocket Launcher or vehicles. It’s the only way you can counter a Rocket Launcher / Wraith cannon instakill.
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> You sir, well i dont like you and I was thinking of a word that started with F and ends with IDIOT. Does no one remember Halo 3? What did we do before Armor Abilities? We actually took precautions around vehicles and didnt look to a AA to save us. If you were stupid enough to get in the crosshairs of a Rocket, you were dying. There was no magic button to save you.
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> This is what I want back from Halo. None of this second change crap. Give skilled players the game back. Cause really, incredible feats in skill have been snuffed out in this game DUE to ARMOR ABILITIES.
Amen.
> I am all for removing AL from EVERY game type except BTB, but removing armor lock from the most vehicle-tastic gametype is just insane, I haven’t played BTB for a while, and I decide to play for once, and BAM, tiny little list of AA’s, seriously, what good does evade do if my TOE gets hit by a ghost and I get splattered. Yeah, lets give them jet pack so they can fly to insane heights and camp with a sniper, but no, no AL, so if I get a team of absolute people, that dont do anything, and expect me to grow 6 arms and use all the power weapons and drive the vehicles, god forbid I get AL to avoid the RIDICULOUS banshee bomb and vehicle spam that is in BTB. Its in invasion, but no, god forbid it’s in BTB.
lol, I hardely ever play BTB. If you don’t like the change, then play team slayer or swat or something.
> > Armor Lock MUST be enabled on every map that includes a Rocket Launcher or vehicles. It’s the only way you can counter a Rocket Launcher / Wraith cannon instakill.
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> You sir, well i dont like you and I was thinking of a word that started with F and ends with IDIOT. Does no one remember Halo 3? What did we do before Armor Abilities? We actually took precautions around vehicles and didnt look to a AA to save us. If you were stupid enough to get in the crosshairs of a Rocket, you were dying. There was no magic button to save you.
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> This is what I want back from Halo. None of this second change crap. Give skilled players the game back. Cause really, incredible feats in skill have been snuffed out in this game DUE to ARMOR ABILITIES.
Yes, yes, yes though I would have been nicer about it.
The fact that armor lock destroys vehicles is ridiculous.
Removing AL from anything is always a brilliant idea.
> Same thing happened to me. I agree.
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> BTB was the only place Armor Lock was balanced.
I wouldn’t say balanced. But it was definatly needed in BTB.
> > > Armor Lock MUST be enabled on every map that includes a Rocket Launcher or vehicles. It’s the only way you can counter a Rocket Launcher / Wraith cannon instakill.
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> > You sir, well i dont like you and I was thinking of a word that started with F and ends with IDIOT. Does no one remember Halo 3? What did we do before Armor Abilities? We actually took precautions around vehicles and didnt look to a AA to save us. If you were stupid enough to get in the crosshairs of a Rocket, you were dying. There was no magic button to save you.
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> > This is what I want back from Halo. None of this second change crap. Give skilled players the game back. Cause really, incredible feats in skill have been snuffed out in this game DUE to ARMOR ABILITIES.
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> Yes, yes, yes though I would have been nicer about it.
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> The fact that armor lock destroys vehicles is ridiculous.
Armor Lock doesn’t destroy vehicles, people destroy vehicles.
In all seriousness, I am suprised to hear this (I rarely, if ever, play BTB because of all the awful maps). Armor Lock was initially intended to be anti-vehicle. I find it funny that it was so poorly implemented that it was removed from its original purpose.
I somewhat understand avoiding Banshee bomb with Armor Lock because it’s already too easy to get kills, but believe or not, power weapons and vehicles are actually designed to be able to kill you fast. If you really can’t find other way to avoid getting splattered than Armor lock, you should consider stop playing BTB, maybe even the whole game.
I never get it why people accept Armor lock in BTB, it’s a cheap way to avoid getting splattered, nothing more. Only reason I have ever seen to it is to avoid getting killed by the already overpowered Banshee, but that’s it. There simply is no other reason to keep it there. If half of BTB is vehicle combat and half of vehicle combat is splattering, Armor Lock literally removes 1/4 of the fun of BTB. (Which I see as the funniest part in it, actually)
If Armor Lock is actually being removed from BTB, that’s good, although they could be removing Banshee too and BTB would be perfect. (And no, I am not actually thinking they are removing Banshee).
Armor Lock is an armor ability that has no rational reason to be anywhere in the game except custom games and maybe Action Sack. More precisely, no armor ability actually has rational reason to be in the game other than custom games or Action Sack.
> > > > Armor Lock MUST be enabled on every map that includes a Rocket Launcher or vehicles. It’s the only way you can counter a Rocket Launcher / Wraith cannon instakill.
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> > > You sir, well i dont like you and I was thinking of a word that started with F and ends with IDIOT. Does no one remember Halo 3? What did we do before Armor Abilities? We actually took precautions around vehicles and didnt look to a AA to save us. If you were stupid enough to get in the crosshairs of a Rocket, you were dying. There was no magic button to save you.
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> > > This is what I want back from Halo. None of this second change crap. Give skilled players the game back. Cause really, incredible feats in skill have been snuffed out in this game DUE to ARMOR ABILITIES.
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> > Yes, yes, yes though I would have been nicer about it.
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> > The fact that armor lock destroys vehicles is ridiculous.
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> Armor Lock doesn’t destroy vehicles, people destroy vehicles.
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> In all seriousness, I am suprised to hear this (I rarely, if ever, play BTB because of all the awful maps). Armor Lock was initially intended to be anti-vehicle. I find it funny that it was so poorly implemented that it was removed from its original purpose.
Weapons don’t kill people. People kill people. Right?
AAs shouldn’t be able to be used as a weapon to kill or destroy anything and AL can be used as a weapon.
One of the reasons people hate armor lock.