None of your reasoning points to anything about “reading comprehension”. Did you just say that because it made you feel educated?
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People misrepresenting what sketch said shows poor reading comprehension. people also just completely ignore his response and pretend he didn’t talk about certain things even though he did. I went into more detail in my responses to others. Feel free to scroll through the comments
So… if 2 people read the same thing and feel different responses to peices of that thing… it means poor reading comprehension… and not perhaps just poor communication by that thing?
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Haha are you sure? 343 have been in charge of Halo for way too long. They’ve messed up basically everything they did, including the "business’ side of things.
You’re saying that with a franchise like Halo, going on 20 years, they had no idea on how to go about it? That’s jus dumb, no offence. You have one of the best gaming trilogies to play with and this is what they’ve done with it.
If I (and others) was able to understand the communication just fine, maybe those that didn’t understand aren’t trying hard enough to do so.
Or maybe… and get ready for this… people can read the same thing and illicit different understandings 
People are pretty accurately describing what he said. Just interpretting the meaning and value differently.
Seems like you’re still talking about the play of the games tbh. The business side for infinite changed even from 4/5. I also feel like people are way over exaggerating how important things like the challenge swaps are. Finishing the challenges only gets you one thing (that will probably be available again). The experience that comes with it unlocks other things, but none of it is gameplay related. It’s all cosmetic. Do I think there should be more options? Absolutely. Do I think it’s career ending and Infinite is doomed to fail? Not a chance. They’re going to fix it. People are too used to instant gratification that they have no patience.
There are things that aren’t up for interpretation though. My favorite is the “oh he said we aren’t owed anything” when what he actually said was people asking “what have you been doing for 6 years?” don’t deserve a response because obviously they have been working on a game for 6 years and the question is inflammatory and beta nothing positive. There is no answer to that question that people will accept. Stuff like that is why I posted in the first place. People are allowed to have opinions about the state of the game and people are allowed to expect better, but they are also allowed to wait a dang minute (and also let the workers… the human beings… have the holiday before they fix everything.
Maybe it’s you then who cannot read right. Since I have seen no one interpret that outside of the context of what they have done the past 6 years. I think you are building a strawman here.
And I think you don’t understand what a straw man is lmao (hey look a straw man) like even in this thread alone (not including the dozens of the threads discussing the same thing in this forum) people are pretending it’s a valid question. What kind of answer would be good enough? You want them to literally list to you every single thing the company has done in 6 years? (That would take more time than it’s worth). They have been pretty open about what they’ve been doing for 6 years. If anyone wanted to look back through the blogs, they’d see that, and wouldn’t need to ask such a ridiculous question. It’s such a hyperbolic question, it literally does not deserve an answer. And that was Brian’s point.
I also love that you claimed I was making a straw man argument in my own thread as if I don’t know what I was arguing… you know, since I’m the one who posted it…
You making a post, doesn’t mean you can’t strawman. You are attempting to represent a broad view others are expressing, and I am saying you are not accurately doing so, in attempt to make them look absurd so you have an easier target to beat on. You are building up a strawman to attack. i.e., a strawman.
If a board director asked 343 to draw up a detailed accounting for how the past 6 years was spent, they could do that in literally a weekend. It’s not that hard, these accounting should already be accounted for anyways. You make it seem like people are asking they should be able to account for every single day, when they are not asking that. We want to see the trends of progression and priorities over 6 years. How long was on the engine, how long on campaign, how long on design, how long on design, ect. These are simple things a company can answer. You claiming it would take more time than it’s worth is again you trying to make it look like what people are asking is absurd.
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Can you show my literally any game company in the history of ever that released a step by step account of a six year project? It literally does not matter. Giving that information will not change a single thing. I didn’t build up a strawman to argue against, directly quoted what was said and emphasized the response. Go enjoy the campaign and quit crying.
You do realize that halo infinite uses the halo 5 engine???
Nah, I’m personally pissed off by the fact that a good game has quite visibly intentional money grabbing practices, and they play coy and ignorant. But I don’t see that much rage to be honest, just general discontent.
The “toxicity” was most likely blown out of proportions to play the victim card, since they probably didn’t have much else to answer other than a basic
[ “We’re working on it” || “We also think it’s bad, sorry!” || “We’re analyzing if it’s feasible” ].
I’m sure there were probably cases of people tweeting insulting stuff at the devs, although I haven’t really SEEN any, but the actions and media reaction was quite exaggerated and was most likely funded by a company simply trying to mitigate damages.
This.
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I’ve already said the slipspace engine isn’t from scratch. The foundation is the !blam engine.
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I’ve already said the slipspace engine isn’t from scratch. The foundation is the !blam engine.
[/quote] if it’s the same engine as halo 5 they clearly know how it works and very well… so again you prove my point.
That’s not really how it works.
It belongs to the same engine family, it uses some “legacy” code from the !blam engine, other than that they’ve retooled it to do what they need it to do.
Compare it to say, Blender 2.0 and 3.0, or UT2 and UT4.
It’s so updated that they even label it a “new engine”.
I think you totally misunderstand how game engines work… if they are updated then THEY CAN DO MORE than the previous… losing functionality due to updates is not an update.
That doesn’t matter as there’s intent behind their actions.
How they’ve done it is how they’ve coded it, and are now reworking it.
As for the “update” part.
You can’t dismiss an entire engine’s worth of updates, just because they’ve decided on losing functionality on one aspect.
Furthermore, the question wasn’t wether or not that particular part was an “update”, but that the “new engine” doesn’t work like Halo 5’s engine anymore because they leveled the engine at the very foundation, perhaps even more, and built it again.