who would win Bungie's Master Chief or 343's MC

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Personally I feel Bungie’s Master Chief would destroy 343’s version of chief from halo 4 &5.Why??Because he was a walking tank in Bungie’s and 343 made him get all emotional more human over Cortana’s death.After learning he went awal in 5 he would be more likely to get killed than any of Bungie’s versions of him.Plus halo 4 made him feel weaker playing him and watching him get choked out by Didacts force didn’t help…Basically I felt more like a super soldier with Bungie’s version and more human / weaker with 343s. I would add BUNGIE DID THIS WITHOUT CHIEF SPRINTING!!!Seeing grunts fleeing from me saying they were sorry helped too.

  • Chief was still a walking tank in Halo 4, nothing really changed besides him being able to sprint and use Armor Abilities…which I don’t know why you would forbid him from using a tactical advantage such as a Sentry Drone to Active Camo to Holograms and beyond. That is just bad planning and weird since Chief was not beyond using equipment in Halo 3. - Chief may have actually responded like a normal human being over losing someone close to them, but emotional is hardly it. He didn’t break down and cry or get furious, he just kind retreated and gave everything he went through a good thought. That is pretty much in line with how he was when he lost fellow Spartans. - If the Didact grabbing him with his gravity manipulation technology upset you, you must have been furious when the Gravemind clutched him in Halo 2. Or when mere rebels caught him and his team in Ghosts of Onyx and bolted him to a wall. There isn’t a contest at play here, they are the same character, he just actually got development in Halo 4.

Idk, Halo 4 chief had the guts to disobey a direct order. That kind of mettle has to count for something

In halo 4 he was genetically modified even further BY A FORERUNNER sorry but your logic is stupid, emotion doesn’t affect strength whatsoever, halo3s master chief would be destroyed by the things he learns in halo4

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> In halo 4 he was genetically modified even further BY A FORERUNNER sorry but your logic is stupid, emotion doesn’t affect strength whatsoever, halo3s master chief would be destroyed by the things he learns in halo4

Then why do I feel so weak playing as him??? If your making a game why make him so weak?? And no he’s to busy crying over cortana he would get killed plus 343 wants to make him older and more realistic. …he is even smaller and slowing down even with bring the forunner genetically modified .But I do see your side of logic about the things he learned in halo 4. I just feel 343’s chief is weaker mentality and slower 343 has said he is slowing down didn’t they? I could be wrong

Lol Jesus Christmas man. You get -5 on that, poor troll try. Just trying to stir the pot. The Master Chief is the same guy, there is no difference besides emotional character development, which all humans should display.

And ya you’re just wrong OP. You’re reaching for straws or are just that incompetent relating to emotional intelligence. Which isn’t a big deal and there are technically 7 different types of intelligences, but I digress.

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> - Chief was still a walking tank in Halo 4, nothing really changed besides him being able to sprint and use Armor Abilities…which I don’t know why you would forbid him from using a tactical advantage such as a Sentry Drone to Active Camo to Holograms and beyond. That is just bad planning and weird since Chief was not beyond using equipment in Halo 3.
> - Chief may have actually responded like a normal human being over losing someone close to them, but emotional is hardly it. He didn’t break down and cry or get furious, he just kind retreated and gave everything he went through a good thought. That is pretty much in line with how he was when he lost fellow Spartans.
> - If the Didact grabbing him with his gravity manipulation technology upset you, you must have been furious when the Gravemind clutched him in Halo 2. Or when mere rebels caught him and his team in Ghosts of Onyx and bolted him to a wall.
> There isn’t a contest at play here, they are the same character, he just actually got development in Halo 4.

No the Gravemind clutching him didn’t bother me at all I see the Gravemind as a stronger antagonist than the didact. Thats why It doesn’t bother me at all Gravemind would do the same to the didact. Plus he also clutched the Arbiter too.

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> Lol Jesus Christmas man. You get -5 on that, poor troll try. Just trying to stir the pot. The Master Chief is the same guy, there is no difference besides emotional character development, which all humans should display.

Lol so fans dont see things your way and they become trolls I love your logic…No wonder this community sucks no tolerance for other people.Absolutely none at all I beat you toss yourself on the ground and throw a fit when you don’t get your way.

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> > In halo 4 he was genetically modified even further BY A FORERUNNER sorry but your logic is stupid, emotion doesn’t affect strength whatsoever, halo3s master chief would be destroyed by the things he learns in halo4
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  • Crying over Cortana…how? He literally just was looking out into space. No crying. And not even a few hours later he went on another mission and continued to go on missions. We don’t know the true reasons he went AWOL either or if it was truly even him going AWOL.
  • 343 want to make him older…the dude is in his 40s, they don’t have to make him older.
  • He is smaller…how? He’s huge. And what do you judge him being slower?
    Are you just making things up or…what?

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Let’s see…because from his point of view, he’s gone through the events of Halo Reach, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, and Halo 4 in the course of a few months. Cryo-sleep is hardly a vacation–its a way for the universe to move on without you and it sucks when waking up–cryo-burn, vomiting, etc, etc.
So, to put it another way, in the course of a few months he’s lost virtually everyone–nearly all of the Spartan-IIs that he trained with, Cortana is breaking down inside his head, had to deal with a threat that no other Spartan has ever had to face [aside from those missing on the Spirit of Fire]–the Flood, gone up against the Didact and the Prometheans–who are far stronger than the Covenant, oh–and by the way, all of the Spartan-IIs, including him, are obsolete now. Just, FYI. You’ve been replaced–and the war with the Covenant is over–sort of.
I don’t know, I think that’s a lot to take in, don’t you? Never mind the fact that he and Cortana are the culmination of a thousand lifetimes of planning…

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> Lol so fans dont see things your way and they become trolls I love your logic…No wonder this community sucks no tolerance for other people.Absolutely none at all I beat you toss yourself on the ground and throw a fit when you don’t get your way.

Far from it bud, but you can believe wrong things if you want, thats freedom and the modern world. I’m not going to be dragged into something you felt insulted by, anyways digression again if you want you can PM me in regards to emotional intelligence.

Master Chief is fine how he is.

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> - Crying over Cortana…how? He literally just was looking out into space. No crying. And not even a few hours later he went on another mission and continued to go on missions. We don’t know the true reasons he went AWOL either or if it was truly even him going AWOL.
> - 343 want to make him older…the dude is in his 40s, they don’t have to make him older.
> - He is smaller…how? He’s huge. And what do you judge him being slower?
> Are you just making things up or…what?

No im not let me ask you have you ever lost anyone you cared about ???Cause if you did you would know where I coming from your more emotional and you dont think clearly. What I mean by smaller is his new armor which would probably make him quiket i guess. But no im not making things up and im not trolling

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> So, to put it another way, in the course of a few months he’s lost virtually everyone–nearly all of the Spartan-IIs that he trained with, Cortana who is breaking down inside his head, had to deal with a threat that no other Spartan has ever had to face [aside from those missing on the Spirit of Fire]–the Flood, gone up against the Didact and the Prometheans–who are far stronger than the Covenant, oh–and by the way, all of the Spartan-IIs, including him, are obsolete now. Just, FYI. You’ve been replaced–and the war with the Covenant is over–sort of.
> I don’t know, I think that’s a lot to take in, don’t you? Never mind the fact that he and Cortana are the culmination of a thousand lifetimes of planning…

Thank you for understanding!!!? see im not trolling

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Blindly obeying a robot you just met isn’t thinking clearly. Jumping out of space station with a bomb isn’t thinking clearly. Jumping out of a ship and falling to the Earth isn’t thinking clearly. Thinking clearly isn’t exactly Chief’s strong suit, but he is lucky.

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Nah not going to PM you I see the type of fan you are.But cobra I can communicate better with him…He has tolerance

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> > > > > In halo 4 he was genetically modified even further BY A FORERUNNER sorry but your logic is stupid, emotion doesn’t affect strength whatsoever, halo3s master chief would be destroyed by the things he learns in halo4
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> > > > Then why do I feel so weak playing as him??? If your making a game why make him so weak?? And no he’s to busy crying over cortana he would bet kill plus 343 wants to make him older and more realistic. …he is even smaller and slowing down even with bring the forunner genetically modified .But I do see your side of logic about the things he learned in halo 4. I just feel 343’s chief is weaker mentality and slower 343 has said he is slowing down didn’t they? I could be wrong
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> > No im not let me ask you hashave you ever lost anyone you cared about ???Cause if you did you would know where I coming from your more emotional and you dont think clearly. What I mean by smaller is his new armor which would probably make him quiket i guess. But no im not making things up and im not trolling
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Your right but dont you think that if if thought about more it would have taken him more time…resulting in a delayed response?

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Look, the Halo 1-3 era Master Chief is still somewhat hopeful. He’s got a job to do: defend Earth, and he’s the only one who can do it. Now he’s like a war veteran returning home and it’s like: oh, it’s YOU. Why aren’t you dead!?
In Halo 4 he got slammed around, knocked out, beaten up, held up by some weird Darth-Vader-esque guy who has obviously gotten out of the wrong side of bed after 100,000 years, and he’s just found out about Cortana dying and there is basically nothing he can do to stop any of it.
I get that 343 industries are trying to tell a somewhat deeper story, but frankly I just want the MC to be badass again. Some dialogue like, “AHHHH!!! DEMON!!! RUN AWAYYYY!!!” may help.

They’re essentially the same character, except the one in Halo 4 seems to actually have character development and a story arc.

In terms of power and abilities, Chief has a greater arsenal in Halo 4, access to armour abilities and an upgraded suit of Mark VI armour. He also received the Librarian’s genetic modifications.

I think Halo 4’s Chief is stronger as fighting force and character in the saga. I prefer Chief in Halo 4 to how Bungie portrayed him.

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> In Halo 4 he got slammed around, knocked out, beaten up, held up by some weird Darth-Vader-esque guy who has obviously gotten out of the wrong side of bed after 100,000 years, and he’s just found out about Cortana dying and there is basically nothing he can do to stop any of it.
> I get that 343 industries are trying to tell a somewhat deeper story, but frankly I just want the MC to be badass again. Some dialogue like, “AHHHH!!! DEMON!!! RUN AWAYYYY!!!” may help.

Yes I agree bring back the DEMON RUN AWAY stuff it was so much fun to hear that.I feel like he is suffering from P.T.S.D. by now and is tired and run down. I liked playing as the badass better

I am a lot of things but senile is not one of them.

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