Remember way back on the 3rd to last mission in Combat Evolved’s campaign, Two Betrayals: who were the ‘Two Betrayals’?
Cortana and the Chief?
343 Guilty Spark and Cortana?
The Chief and 343 Guilty Spark?
Who was it thaty got betrayed? Or who betrayed who?
The Chief betrayed Spark.
Spark betrayed the Chief.
The Chief would not accept the mantle of Reclaimer and so betrayed Spark’s faith.
Spark did not tell the Chief the full details of the protocol and so betrayed Chief’s trust.
It seems Sparks actions were literally overkill for the situation. The problem with firing the ring is that anything on the ring is free from harm. So rather than control the minor outbreak by using his Sentinels to destroy the ships and any biological organism on the ring, he chose to enact a protocol that would have been locally fruitless but possibly galacticly devastating. (hints of his rampancy )
The first betrayal is that Chief was lied to, Halo kills all life in the galaxy and not just the Flood. The second betrayal is that 343 Guilty Spark turned on the Chief.
The first betrayal definitely was that Guilty Spark left Master Chief in the dark about Halo’s true purpose, i.e. that it not only kills the Flood but all sentient life. Although I have to admit that I’m still not sure if GS deliberately deceived MC, or if he actually assumed in good faith that MC knew what Halo does.
As for the second betrayal, that could be two different things. It could be GS turning on MC and trying to kill him, or it could be MC de facto betraying his role as the Reclaimer and trying to destroy Halo.
Maybe the title was left over from the original concept of Cortana going rampant in the control room and trying to take over.
> Maybe the title was left over from the original concept of Cortana going rampant in the control room and trying to take over.
She was supposed to stick him in the back with a plasma grenade right?
> Maybe the title was left over from the original concept of Cortana going rampant in the control room and trying to take over.
What! Really??? Ive never heard about that before
> The Chief betrayed Spark.
> Spark betrayed the Chief.
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> The Chief would not accept the mantle of Reclaimer and so betrayed Spark’s faith.
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> Spark did not tell the Chief the full details of the protocol and so betrayed Chief’s trust.
> It seems Sparks actions were literally overkill for the situation. The problem with firing the ring is that anything on the ring is free from harm. So rather than control the minor outbreak by using his Sentinels to destroy the ships and any biological organism on the ring, he chose to enact a protocol that would have been locally fruitless but possibly galacticly devastating. (hints of his rampancy )
I havent seen anything that says anything on the ring survives activation. Where did you read this?
Both were by Spark:
1st: Lying to the Chief about activating Halo
2nd: Spark then wanting to kill the Chief for Cortana keeping the index
> > The Chief betrayed Spark.
> > Spark betrayed the Chief.
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> > The Chief would not accept the mantle of Reclaimer and so betrayed Spark’s faith.
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> > Spark did not tell the Chief the full details of the protocol and so betrayed Chief’s trust.
> > It seems Sparks actions were literally overkill for the situation. The problem with firing the ring is that anything on the ring is free from harm. So rather than control the minor outbreak by using his Sentinels to destroy the ships and any biological organism on the ring, he chose to enact a protocol that would have been locally fruitless but possibly galacticly devastating. (hints of his rampancy )
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> I havent seen anything that says anything on the ring survives activation. Where did you read this?
Because the forerunners activated the Halo Array destroying all sentient life. These Halo’s were the exact ones they used some 100,000 years ago
Some flood were kept for experimentation on the array during activation
How could it have been a betrayal when The Chief hadn’t agreed with 343? Besides the fact that MC wasn’t aware of 343 Guilty Spark’s presence on Halo when he puts Cortana into the Control Panel, he never actually agrees whith 343 even after he does meet him. On top of that, 343 doesn’t betray MC either as he isn’t aware that The Chief didn’t understand the containment protocol. You can’t betray someone if you don’t have a deal, or trust for that matter. When it boils down to it they were both doing their job, and it was more of a misunderstanding then anything else.
> > Maybe the title was left over from the original concept of Cortana going rampant in the control room and trying to take over.
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> What! Really??? Ive never heard about that before
I believe it is stated on Halo 3 legendary bonus discs
> > > The Chief betrayed Spark.
> > > Spark betrayed the Chief.
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> > > The Chief would not accept the mantle of Reclaimer and so betrayed Spark’s faith.
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> > > Spark did not tell the Chief the full details of the protocol and so betrayed Chief’s trust.
> > > It seems Sparks actions were literally overkill for the situation. The problem with firing the ring is that anything on the ring is free from harm. So rather than control the minor outbreak by using his Sentinels to destroy the ships and any biological organism on the ring, he chose to enact a protocol that would have been locally fruitless but possibly galacticly devastating. (hints of his rampancy )
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> > I havent seen anything that says anything on the ring survives activation. Where did you read this?
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> Because the forerunners activated the Halo Array destroying all sentient life. These Halo’s were the exact ones they used some 100,000 years ago
> Some flood were kept for experimentation on the array during activation
Yet this still doesn’t explain how Flood samples in the former gas mine in Threshold’s atmosphere (Halo 2) survived.
The only explanation I have is that the rings aren’t save per se, but that the rooms on the rings and the gas mine in which the Flood specimen are stored are somehow shielded from the Halos’ effect.
> > > > The Chief betrayed Spark.
> > > > Spark betrayed the Chief.
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> > > > The Chief would not accept the mantle of Reclaimer and so betrayed Spark’s faith.
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> > > > Spark did not tell the Chief the full details of the protocol and so betrayed Chief’s trust.
> > > > It seems Sparks actions were literally overkill for the situation. The problem with firing the ring is that anything on the ring is free from harm. So rather than control the minor outbreak by using his Sentinels to destroy the ships and any biological organism on the ring, he chose to enact a protocol that would have been locally fruitless but possibly galacticly devastating. (hints of his rampancy )
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> > > I havent seen anything that says anything on the ring survives activation. Where did you read this?
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> > Because the forerunners activated the Halo Array destroying all sentient life. These Halo’s were the exact ones they used some 100,000 years ago
> > Some flood were kept for experimentation on the array during activation
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> Yet this still doesn’t explain how Flood samples in the former gas mine in Threshold’s atmosphere (Halo 2) survived.
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> The only explanation I have is that the rings aren’t save per se, but that the rooms on the rings and the gas mine in which the Flood specimen are stored are somehow shielded from the Halos’ effect.
Remember the Halo CE campaign? Cortana stated that ‘Halo does not kill the flood it kills their food’. The weapon may no effect the floods composition/biomass in any way but effect all other lifeforms in the galaxy. That would explain the surviving specimens on Threshold
> > Maybe the title was left over from the original concept of Cortana going rampant in the control room and trying to take over.
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> What! Really??? Ive never heard about that before
Me neither. Would’ve been interesting for sure. But the partnership Chief and Cortana formed was also one of the best aspects of that game and the series as a whole, so I’m glad they ditched that idea.
I feel like guilty spark who had been alone a long time (100 thousand years) had achieved his mode of rampancy. Its clearly shown through his laughter and regard that he is crazy so a slight containment rupture becomes a full blown destruction of the universe because he thinks thats the only way. Also its heavily implied that the covenant human war pushed humanity generations ahead of what they understood. Guilty spark says how could you not of known he even says why resist something you’ve already done. Spark didnt understand that this current system of life hadn’t given the hope of life yet because he was constructed when the only way for life to survive was to activate the rings it was also sparks function to help the reclaimers activate the halos.
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> Maybe the title was left over from the original concept of Cortana going rampant in the control room and trying to take over.
Wonder if this was somewhat inspired off Shodan or maybe another crazy AI.
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