I read a lot of the books, but have i missed one explaining who he is and who controls all the bodies?
We have no idea. It was brought up in dialogue and never mentioned again in the story. We’ll probably have to wait and see.
that such a good aspect why halo 5s campaing failed who is the warden where did he come from , well hes just there
He got generated by the game.
So now hes just here and noone know why.
All we know is that the Warden Eternal is a Forerunner AI whose role in the Ecumene was the protection of the Domain, presumably from Genesis. There is nothing else that seemingly matters. One might contend that he is extraneous, and his role could have been performed by, say… the Didact.
He’s kind of just there to slow the game down.
Who he is: guardian of the Domain.
Who controls his bodies: he does. It could either be a partition system where he devotes a certain amount of processing power to each body (more likely scenario) or each Warden could be a direct copy and so they are independent but all think the same and have the same goals/desires (less likely).
He’s a completely random undeveloped character that was just thrown in the game to slow you down.
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> Who he is: guardian of the Domain.
> Who controls his bodies: he does. It could either be a partition system where he devotes a certain amount of processing power to each body (more likely scenario) or each Warden could be a direct copy and so they are independent but all think the same and have the same goals/desires (less likely).
Cortana and Exuberant both stated “one mind, many bodies”. So the first possibility is pretty much confirmed.
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> Who he is: guardian of the Domain.
> Who controls his bodies: he does. It could either be a partition system where he devotes a certain amount of processing power to each body (more likely scenario) or each Warden could be a direct copy and so they are independent but all think the same and have the same goals/desires (less likely).
Right, between that and Killer Orca’s note on “one mind/many bodies”, that essentially sums up everything we know about him. Everything else we’ll have to hope they explain in Halo 6 (if he appears, which he probably should in at least a dialogue or narration mention)
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> > Who he is: guardian of the Domain.
> > Who controls his bodies: he does. It could either be a partition system where he devotes a certain amount of processing power to each body (more likely scenario) or each Warden could be a direct copy and so they are independent but all think the same and have the same goals/desires (less likely).
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> Right, between that and Killer Orca’s note on “one mind/many bodies”, that essentially sums up everything we know about him. Everything else we’ll have to hope they explain in Halo 6 (if he appears, which he probably should in at least a dialogue or narration mention)
Fractures notes he was attacking a UNSC ship, which Infinity was going to help, so its more than likely he’ll show up in person.
The Warden Eternal? He is just a big bad wannabe who lacks the charisma or driving force behind other Halo villains, shoehorned into Halo 5: Guardians as a walking Deus ex machina (to explain the revival and influence of a reborn Cortana and her ethos), and to occasionally take the mantle (pun intended) of a level boss. Thats the canonical explanation thus far.
Headcanon? Well, that’s where things get a lot more complicated. I remember back in Silentium that the Master Judicial had accused Faber of attempting to bribe legal advocates at his trial, including one Warden monitor who supposedly helped Faber escape out of his own volition. I would take a guess and assume that Faber’s attempted bribery… had been through the offer of a provision of another position, one that would allow the Monitor to escape its shell and death.
Thus, Warden Eternal was born. Indestructible through conventional means, everywhere at once, and fulfilling the most significant role in existence following the destruction of the Ecumene. What else could an ancient entity ask for?
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> The Warden Eternal? He is just a big bad wannabe who lacks the charisma or driving force behind other Halo villains, shoehorned into Halo 5: Guardians as a walking Deus ex machina (to explain the revival and influence of a reborn Cortana and her ethos), and to occasionally take the mantle (pun intended) of a level boss. Thats the canonical explanation thus far.
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> Headcanon? Well, that’s where things get a lot more complicated. I remember back in Silentium that the Master Judicial had accused Faber of attempting to bribe legal advocates at his trial, including one Warden monitor who supposedly helped Faber escape out of his own volition. I would take a guess and assume that Faber’s attempted bribery… had been through the offer of a provision of another position, one that would allow the Monitor to escape its shell and death.
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> Thus, Warden Eternal was born. Indestructible through conventional means, everywhere at once, and fulfilling the most significant role in existence following the destruction of the Ecumene. What else could an ancient entity ask for?
I have to re-read the forerunner trilogy
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> I read a lot of the books, but have i missed one explaining who he is and who controls all the bodies?
I have a theory that it is actually Abaddon, from the Halo: Fractures short-story, Promises to keep. I would go into detail about it, but I’ll wait. Do know, however, that I have several good reasons for this theory.
What if he’s a grunt!?!?!?
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> The Warden Eternal? He is just a big bad wannabe who lacks the charisma or driving force behind other Halo villains, shoehorned into Halo 5: Guardians as a walking Deus ex machina (to explain the revival and influence of a reborn Cortana and her ethos), and to occasionally take the mantle (pun intended) of a level boss. Thats the canonical explanation thus far.
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> Headcanon? Well, that’s where things get a lot more complicated. I remember back in Silentium that the Master Judicial had accused Faber of attempting to bribe legal advocates at his trial, including one Warden monitor who supposedly helped Faber escape out of his own volition. I would take a guess and assume that Faber’s attempted bribery… had been through the offer of a provision of another position, one that would allow the Monitor to escape its shell and death.
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> Thus, Warden Eternal was born. Indestructible through conventional means, everywhere at once, and fulfilling the most significant role in existence following the destruction of the Ecumene. What else could an ancient entity ask for?
Wow, you could be right! I always assumed the Warden Eternal and the “Warden” we’re far too closely named to just be a coincidence. They must be the same entity or related somehow. However I was incredibly disappointed his backstory wasn’t delved into in H5. However the “Unidentified Builder” says that the Warden walks once more…how? So it must have been around before the fall of the Ecumene for him to display shock at his return. Maybe 343 doesn’t even know…
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> The Warden Eternal? He is just a big bad wannabe who lacks the charisma or driving force behind other Halo villains, shoehorned into Halo 5: Guardians as a walking Deus ex machina (to explain the revival and influence of a reborn Cortana and her ethos), and to occasionally take the mantle (pun intended) of a level boss. Thats the canonical explanation thus far.
> Headcanon? Well, that’s where things get a lot more complicated. I remember back in Silentium that the Master Judicial had accused Faber of attempting to bribe legal advocates at his trial, including one Warden monitor who supposedly helped Faber escape out of his own volition. I would take a guess and assume that Faber’s attempted bribery… had been through the offer of a provision of another position, one that would allow the Monitor to escape its shell and death.
> Thus, Warden Eternal was born. Indestructible through conventional means, everywhere at once, and fulfilling the most significant role in existence following the destruction of the Ecumene. What else could an ancient entity ask for?
My theory is that Abaddon becomes the Warden Eternal. In Halo: Fractures short-story “Promises to Keep”, Abaddon places the main Forerunner characters on trial for their actions in using the Halo rings. On trial, in the very same place that the Warden AI operated. My guess is that sometime after the story, Abaddon(who already acts as a form of AI to defend the Domain) was inspired by both the Warden AI(which it had presumably known about), and that one Forerunner consciousness that merged with the Domain. It decides to create bodies out of Forerunner hardlight, and took on the name “Warden Eternal”, and continued to defend the Domain. When Cortana arrives, he sees it as a clever chance to enforce a test on humanity - to see if they are deemed worthy of access to the Domain, and the Mantle. If Humanity can overcome an AI rebellion, then he might deem them worthy. Also, in matter, is that Exhuberent Witness ONLY refers to the Warden Eternal as “Warden” the entire time - perhaps mistaking him for the Warden AI that had inspired him. This is also why Warden Eternal so easily goes against Forerunner protocol. I find it extremely unlikely that both Abaddon and Warden Eternal(two RECENTLY introduced characters, technically) both just happen to serve the same purpose.
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> > The Warden Eternal? He is just a big bad wannabe who lacks the charisma or driving force behind other Halo villains, shoehorned into Halo 5: Guardians as a walking Deus ex machina (to explain the revival and influence of a reborn Cortana and her ethos), and to occasionally take the mantle (pun intended) of a level boss. Thats the canonical explanation thus far.
> > Headcanon? Well, that’s where things get a lot more complicated. I remember back in Silentium that the Master Judicial had accused Faber of attempting to bribe legal advocates at his trial, including one Warden monitor who supposedly helped Faber escape out of his own volition. I would take a guess and assume that Faber’s attempted bribery… had been through the offer of a provision of another position, one that would allow the Monitor to escape its shell and death.
> > Thus, Warden Eternal was born. Indestructible through conventional means, everywhere at once, and fulfilling the most significant role in existence following the destruction of the Ecumene. What else could an ancient entity ask for?
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> My theory is that Abaddon becomes the Warden Eternal. In Halo: Fractures short-story “Promises to Keep”, Abaddon places the main Forerunner characters on trial for their actions in using the Halo rings. On trial, in the very same place that the Warden AI operated. My guess is that sometime after the story, Abaddon(who already acts as a form of AI to defend the Domain) was inspired by both the Warden AI(which it had presumably known about), and that one Forerunner consciousness that merged with the Domain. It decides to create bodies out of Forerunner hardlight, and took on the name “Warden Eternal”, and continued to defend the Domain. When Cortana arrives, he sees it as a clever chance to enforce a test on humanity - to see if they are deemed worthy of access to the Domain, and the Mantle. If Humanity can overcome an AI rebellion, then he might deem them worthy. Also, in matter, is that Exhuberent Witness ONLY refers to the Warden Eternal as “Warden” the entire time - perhaps mistaking him for the Warden AI that had inspired him. This is also why Warden Eternal so easily goes against Forerunner protocol. I find it extremely unlikely that both Abaddon and Warden Eternal(two RECENTLY introduced characters, technically) both just happen to serve the same purpose.
On the contrary, Abaddon was androgynous in appearance, a clear contrast to Warden Eternal’s male-preferential warrior-construct. And even had a gender-profile been selected, it would have been female and based off a builder/lifeworker construct, in due part related to the personality template Growth-Through-Trial-Of-Change had provided with her breath and memory. The Warden Eternal’s disposition would fly in the face of everything we know thus far about either one of those characters, who already inherits animosity towards primitive beings, but humans specifically. Abaddon however was clearly hostile to towards the presence of Forerunners, showing contempt for their role in the committing crimes against the life, the Mantle, and the Domain.
From what I understood in that short story, Abaddon was not so much a caretaker of the Domain, as it was a conduit. Intended to close the gaps between the enigmatic entity that is the Domain and all life in the universe. The simple fact that Abaddon exists draws new lines in the sand, most of which we did not even know were there. But I’ll save that for another time.
The Warden Eternal however, acts in the role of the Haruspis, albeit acting with its own personal agenda and opinions, rather then the more withdrawn and logical presence of the one’s we had seen at the conclusion of the Forerunner-Flood War. Considering the Warden’s age and significance in Forerunner culture, it would make sense that someone so ancient, prestigious, and in constant proximity of the Maethrillian would have likely had access to the truth surrounding the Organon and Mysterium. Through reasons that have eluded me, it had taken the Master Builder’s bribe and decided that the existence it has taken now was either a better or only option (perhaps it had been made aware of the Ecumene’s impending doom? Or been given orders by the Domain itself.).
With the information presented thus far, I can come only to the conclusion that the Warden Eternal and Warden are one and the same.
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> > > The Warden Eternal? He is just a big bad wannabe who lacks the charisma or driving force behind other Halo villains, shoehorned into Halo 5: Guardians as a walking Deus ex machina (to explain the revival and influence of a reborn Cortana and her ethos), and to occasionally take the mantle (pun intended) of a level boss. Thats the canonical explanation thus far.
> > > Headcanon? Well, that’s where things get a lot more complicated. I remember back in Silentium that the Master Judicial had accused Faber of attempting to bribe legal advocates at his trial, including one Warden monitor who supposedly helped Faber escape out of his own volition. I would take a guess and assume that Faber’s attempted bribery… had been through the offer of a provision of another position, one that would allow the Monitor to escape its shell and death.
> > > Thus, Warden Eternal was born. Indestructible through conventional means, everywhere at once, and fulfilling the most significant role in existence following the destruction of the Ecumene. What else could an ancient entity ask for?
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> > My theory is that Abaddon becomes the Warden Eternal. In Halo: Fractures short-story “Promises to Keep”, Abaddon places the main Forerunner characters on trial for their actions in using the Halo rings. On trial, in the very same place that the Warden AI operated. My guess is that sometime after the story, Abaddon(who already acts as a form of AI to defend the Domain) was inspired by both the Warden AI(which it had presumably known about), and that one Forerunner consciousness that merged with the Domain. It decides to create bodies out of Forerunner hardlight, and took on the name “Warden Eternal”, and continued to defend the Domain. When Cortana arrives, he sees it as a clever chance to enforce a test on humanity - to see if they are deemed worthy of access to the Domain, and the Mantle. If Humanity can overcome an AI rebellion, then he might deem them worthy. Also, in matter, is that Exhuberent Witness ONLY refers to the Warden Eternal as “Warden” the entire time - perhaps mistaking him for the Warden AI that had inspired him. This is also why Warden Eternal so easily goes against Forerunner protocol. I find it extremely unlikely that both Abaddon and Warden Eternal(two RECENTLY introduced characters, technically) both just happen to serve the same purpose.
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> On the contrary, Abaddon was androgynous in appearance, a clear contrast to Warden Eternal’s male-preferential warrior-construct. And even had a gender-profile been selected, it would have been female and based off a builder/lifeworker construct, in due part related to the personality template Growth-Through-Trial-Of-Change had provided with her breath and memory. The Warden Eternal’s disposition would fly in the face of everything we know thus far about either one of those characters, who already inherits animosity towards primitive beings, but humans specifically. Abaddon however was clearly hostile to towards the presence of Forerunners, showing contempt for their role in the committing crimes against the life, the Mantle, and the Domain.
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> From what I understood in that short story, Abaddon was not so much a caretaker of the Domain, as it was a conduit. Intended to close the gaps between the enigmatic entity that is the Domain and all life in the universe. The simple fact that Abaddon exists draws new lines in the sand, most of which we did not even know were there. But I’ll save that for another time.
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> The Warden Eternal however, acts in the role of the Haruspis, albeit acting with its own personal agenda and opinions, rather then the more withdrawn and logical presence of the one’s we had seen at the conclusion of the Forerunner-Flood War. Considering the Warden’s age and significance in Forerunner culture, it would make sense that someone so ancient, prestigious, and in constant proximity of the Maethrillian would have likely had access to the truth surrounding the Organon and Mysterium. Through reasons that have eluded me, it had taken the Master Builder’s bribe and decided that the existence it has taken now was either a better or only option (perhaps it had been made aware of the Ecumene’s impending doom? Or been given orders by the Domain itself.).
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> With the information presented thus far, I can come only to the conclusion that the Warden Eternal and Warden are one and the same.
You might be right. I keep thinking that it can’t be the most obvious answer, but I guess it very well could be.
Abaddon is a Precursors’ AI. I don’t think it is the Warden Eternal 'cause the Warden is under the control of Cortana…but it said it could remove Cortana from the Domain, and their first encounter was in the Domain…ok, it could Abaddon, but Exuberant said it isn’t a robot, but the monitor should not know about the existence of the Precursors’s AI…something doesn’t match here. It couldn’t be Abaddon cause 031 should know that the Organon is actually Abaddon. We need to know if Bornstellar or other Forerunners had put this information somewhere…