Who cares if you can't notice it in game?

Reach had the best levels of customization.
If 343i wants to please this large portion of the community when Halo 6 comes out, they will need to ensure it has at minimum the ability to alter Helmet, Chest, Individual Shoulders, Legs, Visor.
They will also need to put in some time and effort into their armors rather than offering a ton of reskins which is frankly insulting (reskinning a model, especially with such minor changes takes next to no development time. Literally multiple reskins an hour). The only reason we have all of these useless skins is to clog up the REQ pool to force players to grind longer to stop them from getting the actual stuff sooner.
Halo 6 will inevitably keep the REQ system, because its a cash-cow for 343i. To answer people’s concerns about how having more customization equal more REQ cards, that’s where you’re mistaken. It does not have to be that way. 343i could very easily keep the same division of one REQ card per armor, then when you’re in the actual customization menu just allow for that card to unlock the individual pieces.

We’re really not asking for much, just for the things that some of us loved dearly, and made Halo Halo to us, not be kicked to the curb simply because its easier to make money if they do.

A big thing for me, and I am sure for others, was/is looking at other player’s armor in the lobby. We can see each other’s idea of what we like, and what we have accomplished. Yes, I was one of those with the thigh bag and fancy wrist watch. I wore them with pride.

Now there really isn’t anything equivalent to that. The lack of variety is just disappointing, and the belief that there is enough variety, or what we have now is better than we’ve ever had is just wrong, in my opinion.
I can’t agree more. I’d LOVE it if in the new Halo’s they bring this back. It was so cool to have such a PERSONALIZED Spartan. Hey! That guy has a Mark V but with different attachments from what I have. I loved Reach’s customization options. I wish Halo 5 had it.

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> Yes, and does it bother anyone else that the colors are a little jacked up too? The secondary colors don’t match from armor to helmet.

The secondary color is different on certain armor sets, Protector, Soldier, Hunter, Mark VI (Gen 1), to name a few, it is a darker color than on the rest of the armor sets. I think this might be what you are referring to.

I want to see a Full body customization. like in reach, but with the addition of changing right or left thigh armor parts and below.

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> IDC if other people can’t notice it or not. I WANT to be able to customize EVERY aspect of my Spartan. I loved mixing shoulder pads and making a bad -Yoink- looking Spartan. What’s the point of having accommodations or medals? No one else will notice them…but YOU will. The armor customization is one of the main things Bungie did right with that game. Also what’s the point in being able to change your armor color when the ONLY time you even show it is during FFA?

Exactly.

In my opinion, stop hating on Halo Reach’s armor system. It’s just like you said, nobody looks at the knees and forearms anyway. So quit complaining about something you don’t even look at. If it doesn’t affect your gameplay, then don’t complain about it. If you have a GPS , some new knee guards and a med kit, by all means wear it with joy, nobody should stop you.

Yes, if they add anything more than Halo Reach, then it’s a bad idea. But around that time, diversity meant something. Definitely not the most important, but it meant something.

The less people I saw that looked like me, the happier I was. Because now my Spartan is unique, one in a million, and those who care can see it as it is. If you don’t care, then keep walkin’ and play Halo 5. I respect Halo 5, Halo 3, Halo 4, and even MCC, but Reach will always be my home.

And next time OP you get all high and mighty about staring down a good Halo game, remember there are still people that love every frame and pixel of it, no matter what’s overlooked.
I don’t mean to be this hostile, but respect the game for what it was. Bungie went out strong.

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> A big thing for me, and I am sure for others, was/is looking at other player’s armor in the lobby. We can see each other’s idea of what we like, and what we have accomplished. Yes, I was one of those with the thigh bag and fancy wrist watch. I wore them with pride.
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> Now there really isn’t anything equivalent to that. The lack of variety is just disappointing, and the belief that there is enough variety, or what we have now is better than we’ve ever had is just wrong, in my opinion.
> I can’t agree more. I’d LOVE it if in the new Halo’s they bring this back. It was so cool to have such a PERSONALIZED Spartan. Hey! That guy has a Mark V but with different attachments from what I have. I loved Reach’s customization options. I wish Halo 5 had it.

You’re not alone on that.

I agree with this guy on two things: we didn’t need the helmet modifications and wrist options from Reach, but I disagree with the point of not choosing our LEG ARMOR. I don’t know about you, but I noticed it a whole bunch when I died. Now, with this point, I’m disagreeing with 343’s decision to get armor, helmets, loadout weapons, and armor abilities through the REQ system. I personally preferred Halo 4’s loadout and armor system. More choices, and less stressing out over when you’ll get a certain weapon, or armor piece. With Halo 4’s system, you could see when, or how you get your armor, and that way you can set a goal. And once you’ve reached your goal, not only are you happy, you can show all those noobs just how good you are because you have this armor or weapon that you ACHIEVED, not bought. I certainty hope 343 decides to drop this lame REQ system in future Halo games.

I think it would be great to have all the reach pieces Back… then when I -Yoink!- you some of the pieces fly off with each -Yoink!-… :slight_smile:

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> "Minority"lol, playing the majority/minority game won’t work here.
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> Also, many devs have proven lately that they don’t have resources by so many games lacking in so many areas, and if cosmetics were to take priority over the actual game, then it’d be a shame to see the market crash over that.

I’m not playing a game. Clearly, in reference to this thread, his opinions are in the minority.

I will say, yet again, and as others have said, we are not asking that these things take priority over something else. If the developers actually came on here and gave me a choice as to whether they would spend their time working on new maps, and fixing glitches or whatnot; or working on more armor options of course I would choose the former.

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> ID guyC if other people can’t notice it or not. I WANT to be able to customize EVERY aspect of my Spartan. I loved mixing shoulder pads and making a bad -Yoink- looking Spartan. What’s the point of having accommodations or medals? No one else will notice them…but YOU will. The armor customization is one of the main things Bungie did right with that game. Also what’s the point in being able to change your armor color when the ONLY time you even show it is during FFA?

I agree with this guy, what the hell I want to costomise the Spartans toes if I can

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> I just noticed this post.
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> > Oh joy another one of these threads. Well at least I’m not the only person in here who thinks that Reach’s system was not perfect and went too far with the customization. Should I break down the different systems? I’m going to break down the different systems.Halo 3: Helmet, left & right shoulders, chest. emblem (they showed up on the armor so why the hell not)
> > Total option: FiveHalo Reach: Helmet, left & right shoulders, chest, visor, wrist, utility (the leg stuff), kneww guards, helmet attachments, armor effects, firefight voice
> > Total options: ElevenHalo 4: Helmet, left & right shoulders, chest, visor, arms, legs
> > Total options: SevenHalo 5: Helmet, body piece, visor
> > Total options: ThreeNow let’s look at what’s actually noticed by players when inside a game of multiplayerHmmm… let’s see ah! These four parts:
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> > - The helmet
> > - The shoulders
> > - The chest
> > - The visor color
> > Hmm… I don’t see anything about knee guards or the arms or legs on that list. Does anyone else? No? Thought so.Now, what system in Halo 5 is the closest to having all of those elements? Ah yes, Halo 5 and Halo 3. Halo 5 lacks the ability to change the shoulders while Halo 3 lacks the ability to change visor colors. With all this knowledge the customization of the armor for future Halo games should be rather simple to identify now.
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> > - Helmet
> > - Left shoulders
> > - Right shoulders
> > - Chest
> > - Visor color
> > Well would you look at that! Those are the same as the parts that players actually notice inside a match-made game! All we did was add one more option to separate the left and right shoulders!We don’t need to change our forearms or our knees. And we most certainly don’t need a damn bag on our legs or an apple watch on our wrist. We just need the five options listed above to give us more than enough freedom to enjoy the eighty or so armor sets in Halo 5 + the other hundred skins.
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> Instead of responding to it in a five month old thread I thought I’d just start a new one.
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> I disagree with the premise that just because someone may not notice, in-game, all the armor customization’s that we had available in Reach, that we should not expect that variety, or even want it, in Halo 5. A big thing for me, and I am sure for others, was/is looking at other player’s armor in the lobby. We can see each other’s idea of what we like, and what we have accomplished. Yes, I was one of those with the thigh bag and fancy wrist watch. I wore them with pride.
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> Now there really isn’t anything equivalent to that. The lack of variety is just disappointing, and the belief that there is enough variety, or what we have now is better than we’ve ever had is just wrong, in my opinion.

I think H5 has pretty good customization, but in an ideal world it would have one or two other options to make it more personal. Maybe your emblem on the armor if you wanted to show it. Subtle. Think it’s a good job overall.

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> > A big thing for me, and I am sure for others, was/is looking at other player’s armor in the lobby. We can see each other’s idea of what we like, and what we have accomplished. Yes, I was one of those with the thigh bag and fancy wrist watch. I wore them with pride.
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> > Now there really isn’t anything equivalent to that. The lack of variety is just disappointing, and the belief that there is enough variety, or what we have now is better than we’ve ever had is just wrong, in my opinion.
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> I can’t agree more. I’d LOVE it if in the new Halo’s they bring this back. It was so cool to have such a PERSONALIZED Spartan. Hey! That guy has a Mark V but with different attachments from what I have. I loved Reach’s customization options. I wish Halo 5 had it.

Just thought I’d fix that for you buddy.

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> > > Reach overcomplicated it in my opinion. So much small detail that you don’t even notice it in the game.
> > > Sure it’s nice to look at stuff in the menus, but before you know it, people will be asking for customisable finger armours.
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> > Yeah, but it was important for machinima’s like Red vs Blue who are now forced to continue their stuff on older games like Halo 4 because Halo 5 doesn’t have full customization, then in MCC, which would have been a blast to see RvsB in, they removed all that and made everything into armor sets for every game, people say its not important, but its important to these guys and they’ve been screwed big time, luckily they have other projects to keep afloat like RWBY or Slow-Mo Guys and all that.
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> which is why i don’t get why people want it on mcc because they are going to do that to the customization which means default visors and no armor effects the only reason i see people want it on the mcc is so the can use the haunted helmet(NO IT SHOULD BE EARNED) Because they are too lazy to try and hit the cap everyday.

I’m talking about how they should have had customization in the first place in MCC and full in Halo 5, now machinima’s can’t do much now without looking awful

I’d be less upset with the customisation options in H5 if they all looked good but so many of them I would just never equip, and it doesn’t seem to be just me who thinks so. The personalisation in Reach was what made it, even if all the little details went unnoticed some of the time. Definitely would prefer an unlocking system where at least the legendary stuff is earned instead of lucked out on after buying ridiculous numbers of card packs too…

REACH definitely over complicated the ARMOR SYSTEM >> game goes to fast to see all the little details of armor combinations

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> REACH definitely over complicated the ARMOR SYSTEM >> game goes to fast to see all the little details of armor combinations

I like what nekrulz has said in response to this:

> it actually was never about seeing or not seeing it in-game, it was always about checking that stuff out in the pre-game lobby, which is also non existent in h5.

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> CHROMEHOUNDS.
> Its an older game with amazingly detailed game mechanics and deep customization. I honestly believe with a Halo twist we can have that kind of armor customization. Or at least a game spin off we can. I dont know. All I know is gameplay and content is lessened majorly bcse people demand crisper higher-end graphics.

Come on guys, can no one actually imagine FORGING your own armor. Chest piece of this design with this flair placed right about there on the character with this part at that angle, then this type of design or emblem with these colors, and these tertiary colors that always show up in game in any gamemode. Now on tothe next piece. then you buy more customization options and premade designs with in game money, from large cash outs from victories, challenges daily weekly monthly, and bug events like warden assassinations and core destructions.
Anyone.

I really do find it amazing and at the same time, headscratching, that this particular topic is so important to so many of you. Not that I don’t customize my look, but I don’t spend a boatload of time poring over all the minute details and comparing this to that and etc, OR worry about when I’m gonna get X armor. Look, I get the need for individuality amongst the community when it comes to how you want to be seen, but when ppl running Spartan Companies are kicking players out right before they unlock the Achilles’ Armor, and basically holding the ish for ransom, there’s a problem inherent within the system. And I have to laugh. Because otherwise I would succumb to the insanity. And nobody wants that. =P

Morning Edit: It is nice to see that some of you proponents of the armor customization deal are aware that there are bigger fish to fry than this, and that gives me hope.

Options are crucial

you HAVE options.