Which is the better Villain?

Jul 'Mdama Or the Didact?

Discuss.

Personally, I find Jul to be far more intimidating, and fairly more interesting then the Didact.

I think Didact has potential to be a great villain. He certainly seems like he could be, but the “final battle” kind of ruined it for me.

I don’t really care. I think I skipped all the cutscenes when I played the campaign haha.

I gotta wait. More time needs to pass and let them boht grow and see what they do and become. I can see the Didact in Halo 5 coming and doing some massive damage where as Jul i gotta see more episodes. Hes only been in a few so far and i wanna find out what hes doing with Halsey

Jul’Mdama is better at running away. It seems like I have been “chasing” him for the past 15 chapters of Spartan Ops.

> I think Didact has potential to be a great villain. He certainly seems like he could be, but the “final battle” kind of ruined it for me.

That was nowhere near the ‘final battle’ though. Alot of signs point toward the Didact still being alive. Chances are the real final battle won’t happen until Halo 6.

Jul 'Mdama is basically just leading a band of alien space pirates… It’s nothing too special.

I want to see what other factions the Elites have split into though. And if there are any still allied with UNSC forces.

For now, i have to go with the Didact, not only does he pose as a “villian”, but you also have to give credit to the voice actor. Just by his deep, and intimidating voice, gives players a background on the Didact character.

Now like MKnight2 said, and i agree with him. Jul’ Mdama, does pose no threat. I think he’s a coward, b/c Crimson has been chasing him in the past episodes. Doesn’t

Didact could be way better.

> I don’t really care. I think I skipped all the cutscenes when I played the campaign haha.

But you didn’t skip this thread?

Right now, the villains barely seem to have done much. I put them in the “potentially great” category, each of them. Didact has a lot of interesting qualities (such as being very complimentary and fair to Chief’s qualities as a soldier even if he plans to wipe out his species), but the game doesn’t make clear some more poignant things about his role (that is, that he believes he’s doing what is right for the greatest amount of people).

Jul thinks in similar ways, I think. He was hateful of humans before the war ended, but after humans became a power and kidnapped him, tested indirect warfare options on him and killed his wife, he’s got a lot of reasons to want to kill humans. Namely, before they kill the sangheili (which is quite possible, at this juncture). Portraying Jul as someone determined to protect his people from what he sees as a genocidal force would make for a more interesting villain too.

But right this instant, I like Jul better. Because so far no one on the Infinity has any clue what he’s doing, and he’s a step ahead of them.

> I want to see what other factions the Elites have split into though. And if there are any still allied with UNSC forces.

If i recall in one of the books, the UNSC still is allied with the Elites. however, i think a civil war broke out within Sanghellios and split the good ones, who allied with the UNSC and the bad ones, my guess is Jul Mdama led the revolt. I’m not too sure though.

> > I don’t really care. I think I skipped all the cutscenes when I played the campaign haha.
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> But you didn’t skip this thread?

No, I’m really bored. That’s why I’m replying too!

Screw this, I’m going out. It’s only 20+ degrees below zero.

I liked Jul 'Mdama better, but both were still fairly awful and didn’t really have much of a presence.

The Didact is voiced by the guy who voiced Harbinger.

Automatic win.

"Know this as you die in vain, your time will come, your species will fall. Prepare yourselves for the arrival."

I just wanna know what Jul’s plan is. It seems like he needs Halsey because shes great with Forerunner tech. Almost wonder if they will be partners for something down the road

> The Didact is voiced by the guy who voiced Harbinger.
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> Automatic win.
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> "Know this as you die in vain, your time will come, your species will fall. Prepare yourselves for the arrival."

A good voice doesn’t make a good villain, I’m sorry but it doesn’t. From the moment he is released from the Cryptum, he starts talking nonsense about things you know nothing about and is hostile without any real justification. The only things that shed light on his behavior are the Terminals, but even those do a bad job. The books, Cryptum and Primordium, come closer to explaining his behavior, but also show a different side to the Didact that goes against his character in the game.

Hopefully Silentium, due out in March, sheds light on him, but that us bad storytelling if you need a book after the game to properly explain your game.

> > The Didact is voiced by the guy who voiced Harbinger.
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> > Automatic win.
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> > "Know this as you die in vain, your time will come, your species will fall. Prepare yourselves for the arrival."
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> <mark>A good voice doesn’t make a good villain, I’m sorry but it doesn’t.</mark> From the moment he is released from the Cryptum, he starts talking nonsense about things you know nothing about and is hostile without any real justification. The only things that shed light on his behavior are the Terminals, but even those do a bad job. The books, Cryptum and Primordium, come closer to explaining his behavior, but also show a different side to the Didact that goes against his character in the game.
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> Hopefully Silentium, due out in March, sheds light on him, but that us bad storytelling if you need a book after the game to properly explain your game.

It depends, Cobra. Usually, i like to make sure the voice of the villian goes perfectly. However, i would first study the character’s appearance, personality, objective, and then voice.

> The Didact is voiced by the guy who voiced Harbinger.
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> Automatic win.
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> "Know this as you die in vain, your time will come, your species will fall. Prepare yourselves for the arrival."

Yes, the voice actor is Keith Szarabajka. I actually know him personally through a friend.

> > > The Didact is voiced by the guy who voiced Harbinger.
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> > > Automatic win.
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> > > "Know this as you die in vain, your time will come, your species will fall. Prepare yourselves for the arrival."
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> > <mark>A good voice doesn’t make a good villain, I’m sorry but it doesn’t.</mark> From the moment he is released from the Cryptum, he starts talking nonsense about things you know nothing about and is hostile without any real justification. The only things that shed light on his behavior are the Terminals, but even those do a bad job. The books, Cryptum and Primordium, come closer to explaining his behavior, but also show a different side to the Didact that goes against his character in the game.
> >
> > Hopefully Silentium, due out in March, sheds light on him, but that us bad storytelling if you need a book after the game to properly explain your game.
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> It depends, Cobra. Usually, i like to make sure the voice of the villian goes perfectly. However, i would first study the character’s appearance, personality, objective, and then voice.

A good voice by itself does not make a good villain. I mean really with all that in mind the Didact loses.

He looks like the -Yoink- lovechild between Voldemort and the Cloverfield monster, his personality is just “Grr I hate humans!”, his objective is unclear and he has a good voice.

That’s like 1/4.

> > The Didact is voiced by the guy who voiced Harbinger.
> >
> > Automatic win.
> >
> > "Know this as you die in vain, your time will come, your species will fall. Prepare yourselves for the arrival."
>
> A good voice doesn’t make a good villain, I’m sorry but it doesn’t. From the moment he is released from the Cryptum, he starts talking nonsense about things you know nothing about and is hostile without any real justification. The only things that shed light on his behavior are the Terminals, but even those do a bad job. The books, Cryptum and Primordium, come closer to explaining his behavior, but also show a different side to the Didact that goes against his character in the game.
>
> Hopefully Silentium, due out in March, sheds light on him, but that us bad storytelling if you need a book after the game to properly explain your game.

Well, when you think about it Cobra, the story isn’t even over. Really, it’s just started. The story of Halo 4,5 and 6 has been planned already and all connect as one story, where the original trilogy was more of a “build as we go” sort of thing. Halo 4 didn’t mess up tying up loose ends, it purposely left them loose, so they could be delved into more deeply in later games and THEN be tied up. That’s what I think people have been wrong with. They’ve been viewing part of a story as an entire story. The light of Halo 4 was Cortana and that was really well done. The next game I’m going to assume is all on the Chief and then the last will most likely be the Didact and his character.

> Well, when you think about it Cobra, the story isn’t even over. Really, it’s just started. The story of Halo 4,5 and 6 has been planned already and all connect as one story, where the original trilogy was more of a “build as we go” sort of thing. Halo 4 didn’t mess up tying up loose ends, it purposely left them loose, so they could be delved into more deeply in later games and THEN be tied up. That’s what I think people have been wrong with. They’ve been viewing part of a story as an entire story. The light of Halo 4 was Cortana and that was really well done. The next game I’m going to assume is all on the Chief and then the last will most likely be the Didact and his character.

Having loose ends is fine, but when you have your main bad guy, a guy 343i have been hyping up as a threat to life in the universe, never really explain why he is evil or what he is hoping to accomplish, AND that it might get explained MONTHS after the game came, then there is a problem.