Which ConTroller?

I have been using a mad catz controller for the past year; it appeared to work well with BF3 but after starting playing Halo few days ago I have noticed some performance issues. So I’m thinking to buy a razer onza te and wanted to know your opinion. I’ve read that the left stick misbehave after few months of using it and stops responding. Is anybody using this controller?

Do not get a Razer Onza controller they are horrible and fall apart VERY quickly.

Just get an official 360 controller and have someone customise it like these guys: http://www.facebook.com/AusControllerMods

I have one of those silver Microsoft Xbox 360 controllers with the shifting dpad, I love the joysticks on those. I use that one with rumble disabled and the boxer layout, sensitivity at 7. Works nicely for me

All these so called “gaming pro” peripherals are frankly garbage designed for fools. I mean no offence by that, its just how these companies operate. They know consumers will buy almost anything with a branded name on it.

The standard 360 controller is just as good as every single other pad out there. The only difference is the user.

The only time I would consider a different device is for a different genre that requires one for immersion. Ie a wheel or joystick for driving or flying games. Other than that there is zero point in buying 3rd party controllers, they wont improve your performance, only you can do that by getting better at the game.

I actually quite like the onza, been using it for 4 months with no problems so far. It is definitely now my controller of choice, no slow-turns, the grip is great, the extra buttons are great for using AAs while on bumper jumper, adjustable sensitivity of the joysticks, its great.

> All these so called “gaming pro” peripherals are frankly garbage designed for fools. I mean no offence by that, its just how these companies operate. They know consumers will buy almost anything with a branded name on it.
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> The standard 360 controller is just as good as every single other pad out there. The only difference is the user.
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> The only time I would consider a different device is for a different genre that requires one for immersion. Ie a wheel or joystick for driving or flying games. Other than that there is zero point in buying 3rd party controllers, they wont improve your performance, only you can do that by getting better at the game.

Incorrect. As an example, the Razer Onza TE, which I use. It has two extra mappable bumpers so you don’t have to take your thumbs off the stick as much.

It also allows you to tighten your thumbsticks down so they require more force to push(one of my biggest complaints of controllers). This allows you to maintain the same high sensitivity settings in game so you can turn fast if need be, while still being able to make minute adjustments effortlessly, closer to the superior mouse and keyboard, but not quite.

I’ve used almost all of them. MLG controller, Onza tourney, gamestop version, blah blah blah

The standard wired xbox 360 controller is the best for all my fps games.

I take the rumbles out, add fps freeks to the thumbsticks, and shave the rim around the joysticks a bit so there is more room and you’ve got yourself a prime controller for shooters that will last you years. I still have my 2007 white controller (that is customized in the same way) that I’ve literally logged days (probably even months worth) of Halo 3 on it and it still can get me good ole’ perfections and running riots like nobody’s business.

I’m a bit of a controller collector but my favorite controllers to use are the customized ones that are basically tweaked standard 360 wired controllers.

Get a standard Xbox 360 controller. Anything else quite honestly is bad.

> > All these so called “gaming pro” peripherals are frankly garbage designed for fools. I mean no offence by that, its just how these companies operate. They know consumers will buy almost anything with a branded name on it.
> >
> > The standard 360 controller is just as good as every single other pad out there. The only difference is the user.
> >
> > The only time I would consider a different device is for a different genre that requires one for immersion. Ie a wheel or joystick for driving or flying games. Other than that there is zero point in buying 3rd party controllers, they wont improve your performance, only you can do that by getting better at the game.
>
> Incorrect. As an example, the Razer Onza TE, which I use. It has two extra mappable bumpers so you don’t have to take your thumbs off the stick as much.
>
> It also allows you to tighten your thumbsticks down so they require more force to push(one of my biggest complaints of controllers). This allows you to maintain the same high sensitivity settings in game so you can turn fast if need be, while still being able to make minute adjustments effortlessly, closer to the superior mouse and keyboard, but not quite.

Not incorrect. It doesnt matter how expensive or how many features a controller has, it will not make you a better player. Being a better player is about learning the game, its system, its styles of combat, and how to effectively mix various game functions for best effect.

I have in my time beaten players at games like the Street Fighter titles one handed using only two attack buttons. No macro, no fancy bells and whistles. Pure gaming skill. No gamepad will ever teach you that, it comes from practice and skill. No skill & no practice = bad player no matter the peripheral.

> > > All these so called “gaming pro” peripherals are frankly garbage designed for fools. I mean no offence by that, its just how these companies operate. They know consumers will buy almost anything with a branded name on it.
> > >
> > > The standard 360 controller is just as good as every single other pad out there. The only difference is the user.
> > >
> > > The only time I would consider a different device is for a different genre that requires one for immersion. Ie a wheel or joystick for driving or flying games. Other than that there is zero point in buying 3rd party controllers, they wont improve your performance, only you can do that by getting better at the game.
> >
> > Incorrect. As an example, the Razer Onza TE, which I use. It has two extra mappable bumpers so you don’t have to take your thumbs off the stick as much.
> >
> > It also allows you to tighten your thumbsticks down so they require more force to push(one of my biggest complaints of controllers). This allows you to maintain the same high sensitivity settings in game so you can turn fast if need be, while still being able to make minute adjustments effortlessly, closer to the superior mouse and keyboard, but not quite.
>
> Not incorrect. It doesnt matter how expensive or how many features a controller has, it will not make you a better player. Being a better player is about learning the game, its system, its styles of combat, and how to effectively mix various game functions for best effect.
>
> I have in my time beaten players at games like the Street Fighter titles one handed using only two attack buttons. No macro, no fancy bells and whistles. Pure gaming skill. No gamepad will ever teach you that, it comes from practice and skill. No skill & no practice = bad player no matter the peripheral.

A hori stick will beat a controller every time. If you argue to the contrary you are a fool. Just like a keyboard and mouse will always beat a controller.

> > > > All these so called “gaming pro” peripherals are frankly garbage designed for fools. I mean no offence by that, its just how these companies operate. They know consumers will buy almost anything with a branded name on it.
> > > >
> > > > The standard 360 controller is just as good as every single other pad out there. The only difference is the user.
> > > >
> > > > The only time I would consider a different device is for a different genre that requires one for immersion. Ie a wheel or joystick for driving or flying games. Other than that there is zero point in buying 3rd party controllers, they wont improve your performance, only you can do that by getting better at the game.
> > >
> > > Incorrect. As an example, the Razer Onza TE, which I use. It has two extra mappable bumpers so you don’t have to take your thumbs off the stick as much.
> > >
> > > It also allows you to tighten your thumbsticks down so they require more force to push(one of my biggest complaints of controllers). This allows you to maintain the same high sensitivity settings in game so you can turn fast if need be, while still being able to make minute adjustments effortlessly, closer to the superior mouse and keyboard, but not quite.
> >
> > Not incorrect. It doesnt matter how expensive or how many features a controller has, it will not make you a better player. Being a better player is about learning the game, its system, its styles of combat, and how to effectively mix various game functions for best effect.
> >
> > I have in my time beaten players at games like the Street Fighter titles one handed using only two attack buttons. No macro, no fancy bells and whistles. Pure gaming skill. No gamepad will ever teach you that, it comes from practice and skill. No skill & no practice = bad player no matter the peripheral.
>
> A hori stick will beat a controller every time. If you argue to the contrary you are a fool. Just like a keyboard and mouse will always beat a controller.

You complete overlooked where I said the genre peripherals are there for a reason. Sticks for fight & flight, or a wheel for driving. Even then it doesnt matter, a bad player is a bad player. No matter how good the device for the genre a bad player wont magically get better just by throwing money at it.

> > > > > All these so called “gaming pro” peripherals are frankly garbage designed for fools. I mean no offence by that, its just how these companies operate. They know consumers will buy almost anything with a branded name on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > The standard 360 controller is just as good as every single other pad out there. The only difference is the user.
> > > > >
> > > > > The only time I would consider a different device is for a different genre that requires one for immersion. Ie a wheel or joystick for driving or flying games. Other than that there is zero point in buying 3rd party controllers, they wont improve your performance, only you can do that by getting better at the game.
> > > >
> > > > Incorrect. As an example, the Razer Onza TE, which I use. It has two extra mappable bumpers so you don’t have to take your thumbs off the stick as much.
> > > >
> > > > It also allows you to tighten your thumbsticks down so they require more force to push(one of my biggest complaints of controllers). This allows you to maintain the same high sensitivity settings in game so you can turn fast if need be, while still being able to make minute adjustments effortlessly, closer to the superior mouse and keyboard, but not quite.
> > >
> > > Not incorrect. It doesnt matter how expensive or how many features a controller has, it will not make you a better player. Being a better player is about learning the game, its system, its styles of combat, and how to effectively mix various game functions for best effect.
> > >
> > > I have in my time beaten players at games like the Street Fighter titles one handed using only two attack buttons. No macro, no fancy bells and whistles. Pure gaming skill. No gamepad will ever teach you that, it comes from practice and skill. No skill & no practice = bad player no matter the peripheral.
> >
> > A hori stick will beat a controller every time. If you argue to the contrary you are a fool. Just like a keyboard and mouse will always beat a controller.
>
> You complete overlooked where I said the genre peripherals are there for a reason. Sticks for fight & flight, or a wheel for driving. Even then it doesnt matter, a bad player is a bad player. No matter how good the device for the genre a bad player wont magically get better just by throwing money at it.

Nobody is talking about a bad player. That is something that is not factored at all when purchasing a controller. If something allows one player of two equally players to perform better, it is worth having. The Onza’s sticks allow such a thing.

> > All these so called “gaming pro” peripherals are frankly garbage designed for fools. I mean no offence by that, its just how these companies operate. They know consumers will buy almost anything with a branded name on it.
> >
> > The standard 360 controller is just as good as every single other pad out there. The only difference is the user.
> >
> > The only time I would consider a different device is for a different genre that requires one for immersion. Ie a wheel or joystick for driving or flying games. Other than that there is zero point in buying 3rd party controllers, they wont improve your performance, only you can do that by getting better at the game.
>
> Incorrect. As an example, the Razer Onza TE, which I use. It has two extra mappable bumpers so you don’t have to take your thumbs off the stick as much.
>
> It also allows you to tighten your thumbsticks down so they require more force to push(one of my biggest complaints of controllers). This allows you to maintain the same high sensitivity settings in game so you can turn fast if need be, while still being able to make minute adjustments effortlessly, closer to the superior mouse and keyboard, but not quite.

Yes. I think having the extra bumpers is good, and as you said I like the ability to change the joystick’s tension - I was just worried about all the negative comments I read…tx

I’ve used the Razer Onza and I hated it. Not to say others don’t love the Onza it’s just a personal opinion. I use a standard wired MS controller, works fine for me except for the horrific slow turn for looking up and right.

Why do you guys turn off rumble??

> > > All these so called “gaming pro” peripherals are frankly garbage designed for fools. I mean no offence by that, its just how these companies operate. They know consumers will buy almost anything with a branded name on it.
> > >
> > > The standard 360 controller is just as good as every single other pad out there. The only difference is the user.
> > >
> > > The only time I would consider a different device is for a different genre that requires one for immersion. Ie a wheel or joystick for driving or flying games. Other than that there is zero point in buying 3rd party controllers, they wont improve your performance, only you can do that by getting better at the game.
> >
> > Incorrect. As an example, the Razer Onza TE, which I use. It has two extra mappable bumpers so you don’t have to take your thumbs off the stick as much.
> >
> > It also allows you to tighten your thumbsticks down so they require more force to push(one of my biggest complaints of controllers). This allows you to maintain the same high sensitivity settings in game so you can turn fast if need be, while still being able to make minute adjustments effortlessly, closer to the superior mouse and keyboard, but not quite.
>
> Yes. I think having the extra bumpers is good, and as you said I like the ability to change the joystick’s tension - I was just worried about all the negative comments I read…tx

Using fishstick on the Onza with the extra left bumper mapped to jump and the extra right bumper mapped to reload is a God-send.

Gat a Scuf. Amazing Controller. Well worth the money.

Scuff controller

> Nobody is talking about a bad player. That is something that is not factored at all when purchasing a controller. If something allows one player of two equally players to perform better, it is worth having. The Onza’s sticks allow such a thing.

It should be factored in, because its why I see so many players these days with expensive kit who cant do basics in a game title. Like those players with $300+ wheels and stands who cant change gear properly or stick to a racing line who end up all over the race track. Or the same with flight stick users who can’t maintain level flight or level power and end up flying around the sky like a drunk pigeon. Or the PC gamers with G-keyboards, a crap ton of macros, and a high DPI mouse who cant aim straight and then -Yoink- about aimbots.

As I said if you are bad at a title, throwing no end of money at it wont change that. Practice and skill will make you perform better more readily than an expensive peripheral will.

MLG controller