Where is the love & how can we bring it back?

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Yeah I mostly answered the questions that I felt like I had something interesting to say about.
But I’ll quickly give some thoughts on the ones I skipped.

How I think 343 feels about me.
Don’t know. And within the company I’m sure views vary. As a whole though I don’t feel like fans have been treated as much more than wallets lately.

Lack of love.
Yes 100%. There is a great lack of love between fans-devs-Halo
I think a big chunk of the community are kinda “heartbroken” (for lack of a better word) and it feels like people are responding to their heartbreak by shutting away their feelings for the franchise.
A lack of love put into the franchise by the devs = lack of love from fans to devs = devs demoralised etcetc.

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This question is too massive lol, sorry

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I will defend Halo 4 til my dying breath, both campaign and multiplayer.
MCC is the best thing in gaming, period.
I love that 343 leaned heavily into books and other media to grow the world-lore to an enormous level.

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Thank you for that homie, really appreciate that

Appreciate the further feedback, and thank you for clarifying on those other questions

Appreciate your perspective homie, and thank you for providing your insight :slight_smile:

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I don’t game much but I like them.

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This right here is one of the biggest problems i have with all series. Once they expand across multiple mediums they rarely are able to keep a consistent identity. Halo was no exception to this.

Halo 4 Chief and Cortana are completely different people from CE-H3 Chief and Cortana. This is a prime example of the problem with having a series span multiple mediums and not go to excruciating lengths to keep it consistent.

Halo failed to do this and now we have different groups of fans who say they love Halo but the idea each group has of its ideal Halo are completely incompatible.

I found Halo 4 extremely jarring and deeply hate everything that it is. Halo 4 is the worst Halo IMO. It changed so much just for the sake of change and 343 wanted to make Halo “theirs”. On top of that so many characters make dumb decisions just for forced drama/stakes and it makes it unbearable.

The only thing Halo 4 did really well was oddball which it still has the best in the series in that regard.

I won’t say anything good about Halo 4’s campaign but i will say i did enjoy 4’s multiplayer although it was not at all what i wanted out of a mainline Halo. It just cut too much out of Halo’s arena shooter roots.

I did look it up and no Halo has come close to the sales numbers Halo 3 had. That is because Halo 3 for its time has been the best Halo. It had the best armor, armor unlock system, is the ending to the best trilogy in all of gaming and has a great story itself, had great maps, weapons and vehicles, and still held true to what Halo was in those first 3 games.

Halo 4 and 5 damaged Halo’s reputation a lot and Infinite is definitely 343’s best Halo by miles. Infinite really is the sequel to Halo 3 i have been waiting for and my biggest issue with the game is the trash armor unlock system and dumb armors that break Halo’s tone being added.

I won’t say i expect you not to enjoy Halo 4 but what i would like Halo 4 fans is to acknowledge how radically different it is from CE-3.

*sorry for the Halo 4 rant but 343’s vision for Halo in 4 and 5 is why i have very little faith in them as devs

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  1. I think a lot of problems with this game direct back to the desire to have a major flagship title out on the Xbox Series S/X. I do think some demands of the community are ignored until they absolutely need to put something out to tone down some of the hate coming their way, like Forge.

  2. From the community standpoint, which it could be related directly to the poor menu and game continuation situation, it seems like people are hostile in general and it is hard to find a good balance of the social aspect of the game.
    There are many good people out there, don’t take that as a blanket statement for everyone, just the frequency of negativity is apparent.
    Overall the game is lacking content that should have been there at launch, which is a fact that has been beat to death. That said, this isn’t a HALO problem - this is a gaming industry AAA title as a whole problem. As consumers we are letting many companies/developers get away with this on a consistent basis and it’s bleeding over into titles it should have never been a problem for. I’ve watched two of my favorite games become shells of what they were by spreading content thin or offering very little over long periods of time within the last year. It pushes players away and leaves a mess behind.

  3. Back to what I said previously players leaving and being upset at the game has made it, I don’t want to say toxic, but a more depressing community. There isn’t hype and constant content creation and in the age of social media isn’t a good thing. Plus, the inability to easily stay in matches with teammates you meet in game, mic matches aren’t common, the social aspect is weirdly a secondary thought to a game series that was hugely influential and built around the live service.

  4. That said, I still enjoy the games. I may be one of the few out there that actually enjoys all of the series and hasn’t hated many of the changes. (Someone out there is snickering to this, it’s okay, I understand why people hate the changes after 3.) The latest campaign played right into one of my favorite tropes of a protective father-like character with a child/daughter and I enjoyed the game. I do find the open-world aspect to do some achievements rather boring as there’s not a lot of action to really make it less bleak, but the core campaign is actually one of my favorites since 2.

  5. Okay, hot take for this, I like the multiplayer of 5 but…unlike most… I enjoyed 4&5 and the changes to the art style. I am fine with the original being more the influence of Infinite, but I had fun with the look and gameplay of the prior two games, especially 5.

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I don’t quite understand this part. CE-H3 are the same medium as H4, videogames?

I think canon consistency is going to be difficult with a world this big whether it’s in one media form or many.
And I have as much of an issue with inconsistencies as anyone.
I think they could and should do a better job with it, but what all the multiple mediums can offer is so worth it. Because the world would be way smaller and less interesting without it imo.

Yeah, H4 is different, but not in ways I have too many issues with. But I hear you, and I think your opinions are as valid as anyone’s.

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What i mean is the CE-H3 Chief and Cortana we made straight up for video games. For H4 i always hear that this Chief is much closer to the way he is in the books. So it’s video game Chief vs book Chief and since part of why i love the original Halo trilogy is how Chief and Cortana are depicted when that got shifted in Halo 4 it was extremely jarring to say the least. I felt like i didn’t recognize who the characters were anymore.

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Gotya, that makes sense to me now.
Yeah I definitely agree with the view of Chief in H4 being closer to how he’d been in the books, and I see how it’s a bit of a sudden change from game to game.
I’ve generally viewed these moments through the different games and books more as a veriety of ways the Chief can behave under various circumstances, with a variety of different characters around him, at different times etc.
I think I also just simply enjoy what was done with the character in H4, I think I needed some extent of character development like this to keep the character interesting.
In terms of Cortana, yeah she changes through 2-3 and 3-4 quite a lot. And as much as I miss to confident sassy H2-Cortana, I think her character changes were very well explained and justified in the story, more so than the Chief’s changes.

Don’t think you’re necessarily wrong, and I think you have fair points. I just don’t really have a mutual issue with the things you’re pointing out.

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I like Chief and Cortana in 4 (as well as 1-3, dont get me wrong), but what bugs me is just HOW chief & cortana focused h4/5/infinite are.

In 1-3 chief and cortana were simply the main characters in a bigger story. It wasn’t about them as people. You could swap them out with other spartans or AI and the plot wouldn’t really change.

I was fine with 4 being C&C focused under the assumption that it was cortana’s big sendoff.

Even halo 5 though, the game that people claim doesnt have enough chief, has Locke focusing on chasing chief, and the overall plot being cortana rising to take over the galaxy. It also proved the setting was willing to bend over backwards to bring back the sacred cows.

And then we get Halo Infinite, a game that’s now Chief & Weapon, and goes on and on about Cortana even up to and including the final level. The banished themselves are underdeveloped and nonsensical. The endless are underdeveloped and nonsensical. But no, we have to spend time dealing with Cortana’s death for the third game in a row to and including the final level, rather than the villains who we’re going to kill and probably mention 1-2 times at most if they’re lucky in the next campaign. And somehow this is supposed to be ‘new player friendly’.

The Didact/Warden/Escharum/Harbinger are just scene dressing.

That said I’ll have to properly reply to the OP when i have time.

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The more I look into things, the more I find problems that I would have never even noticed before. So for me, i dont have a quarrel with anyone. I like Halo infinite and enjoy the game. Im fully aware of all the problems so if you have any 5 paragraph responses clowning on me pls refrain lol.

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I’m going to try to avoid sound too negative, but I generally feel like 343 has failed the point of its existence. At their best, they’re misguided yet passionate, at their worst, they don’t care about halo other than as a money making tool.

They probably don’t care much about me at all. Then again, apparently discord sent me a message asking why I didn’t engage in their free promo if I streamed the game. So maybe they mistakenly think I’m a promoter for them.

Halo Infinite was supposed to be their big come back, their ‘finally getting it right’ moment. Instead, their comeback is in need of a comeback, because again they missed the mark. Most people are moving past rage and just into indifference for the game. Those who enjoy this game enjoy it, those who don’t enjoy it realize this game will probably never be enjoyable for them.

343 shows very little love. It feels like they have meetings where they try to figure out what pointless thing they can change to make more generic. They’ve often also talked down to people who point out issues.

I’d say the love for halo the community has is directly proportional to how its been treated.

I was primarily a campaign player. I had all the books up to halo 5, I played every campaign (save halo 5-infinite) countless times and thanks to co-op introduced numerous friends to the franchise.

I love its setting, story, and campaign gameplay. I dipped into MP here and there but when it comes to MP i’m a casual.

I’m glad they got MCC into a decent state. Its the only reason I gave Infinite a chance. MCC is such a consumer friendly product (once it got its act together) that it suggested they finally knew what they were doing.

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I rly like this take on the questions and I rly have to agree with it all. im just glad MMC is a really solid game now. Whenever Infinite makes me mad I can just go to MMC and enjoy myself.

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  1. After 22 years of playing all of Halo all I can say is that I miss Bungie. 343i doesn’t care about us, its players. 343i is a corporation and like ALL corporations it exists to make PROFITS for its SHAREHOLDERS. End of story. The players are the product.

  2. I think Infinite is infinitely boring. I only play MP Tactical Slayer. I want 343i to port all the maps this game has ever had for SWAT. I want more players to use their mics. How can this, supposedly, be a team centred game when one cannot communicate with their team? I’m glad this community is here. I guess if it was shut down we would ALL be on Reddit.

  3. See my answer to #1 above. Of course 343i doesn’t love its players anymore than paying lip service to that idea. We are the product.

  4. I love that Halo has lasted so long and that so many people play it. I miss seeing the number of players online (Infinite). I miss players talking to their teammates while they play.

  5. I don’t love anything about 343i and I’m certainly not grateful for them. Why would I be grateful to a corporation? They should be grateful to us, their customers.

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Thank you @MAGICALGROGU @UrbaneRocket495 for your responses

I appreciate your honesty, in-depth responses and constructive criticism :purple_heart:

Thank you also to @The_Cool_Spoon @Spam8358 and @NonToxic4026 for providing discourse and dialogue too, it is also appreciated

Also thank you @MANKH00L for your response too, I appreciate your honesty :slight_smile:

At the point we are at now, I feel that we need more love now more than ever

I feel that later down the line the population could be brought back, but I feel that this is also just as - if not more - an important aspect to rebuild the community and it’s relationship with 343

As always, thank you to everyone for contributing to this thread so far, I look forward reading more of your responses, perspectives and insights :slight_smile:

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Halo 5 muliplayer was amazing and i am tired of players that just wanna remake on Halo 3!!
We need to use the modern day mechanics to make it more interesting and timless also competetive! What you want to do is just make Halo 3 over and over again well im sorry i am struggling to see the evelution in this we need new storys here! games need to evoleve and move with the times its pointless just using old dialog and storys lets make new once and more modern lets go into the future .

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Change and being ‘new’ is not inherently ‘good’. Nor is it inherently bad.

However the ‘modern day mechanics’ that were popular around halo 5’s launch have also been largely abandoned even by other franchises precisely because it was a fad that wasn’t as popular as dev’s expected.

Why people want ‘halo 3 but new" is because they want to have something that feels like a gave that looked at halo 3 and figured out actual improvements, rather than seeing whats simply "new and hip and modern’ and bruteforcing the game to go with it.

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I see where you’re coming from homie, but I feel @UrbaneRocket495 sums it up really well

In my personal opinion, this is how & why the games evolved like they did:

Halo 3 > Halo Reach: Equipment removed, spartan abilities added

Bungie wanted to send off their final game with a bang, throwing in armour abilities; introducing sprint & changing the dynamics of gameplay

Halo Reach > Halo 4: Loadouts introduced, abilities merged with equipment, sprint introduced as a inherent/default ability

There are lots of speculations with H4, but how I feel you could ‘simply’ summarise it is, they went on to try and modernize the series; including having to integrate the new armour abilities that Bungie introduced

Halo 4 > Halo 5: Loudouts removed, everyone given the same 7 armour abilities, power equipment reintroduced

In my opinion, H4 proved to be chaotic and unbalanced & the population dwindled near endgame; which is fair enough. In order to bring things back to equal footing, everyone was given the same 7 armour abilities; which did help, however drastically sped up gameplay

Halo 5 > Halo Infinite: 4 out of 7 armour abilities removed (spartan charge, ground pound, smart scope, dash), equipment reintroduced

Bringing it back to it’s roots, slowing down gameplay from H5, Halo Infinite did well to equalize gameplay as well introduce equipment to reintroduce but also reinvent the new sandbox
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In conclusion, I feel that what 343 done has been a great decision in regard to Halo Infinite’s core mechanics, its only through a lack of content & lack of game integrity and social - competitive balance, that Halo Infinite is where it is now

Things are starting to improve having introduced Forge, but I still feel that there are other aspects that can be looked into/addressed, for me one of the main aspects being: social - competitive balance in Matchmaking

I do appeeciate you creating dialogue @Desi_br & I do appreciate your contribution, but I will call you forward and say that you have not answered the questions I have asked directly

Like I said previously, the reason I created these specific questions was to obtain specific answers from the community and how they feel about 343, the community & the latest game Halo Infinite

Otherwise things will tend to go off topic, and not address the main intention behind the thread*

Either way, thank you for your responses and thank you for your insights :slight_smile:

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As I have said before: Halo 5 MP was fun but not what i would say most Halo fans wanted out of a mainline game. Similar to COD, advanced movement just doesn’t work in Halo. COD went back to “boots on ground” and so did Halo.

I never said we can’t evolve. I am fine with clamber and sprinting but not every FPS series needs to evolve to have thrusters/jet packs as the default.

Halo 3 was the peak of Halo and sales still show that no Halo has come close to it since. That’s why people want Halo 3 with updates and not some random attempt at a game with the Halo name slapped on it.

If you reskin Halo Reach, 4, and 5 people wouldn’t say they were Halo clones. They may say they seem to be inspired by Halo but the gameplay really isn’t Halo (kind of like Splitgate). Infinite actually feels like the sequel to 3 i have been waiting for and aside from the dumb armor unlock system and stability issues i really enjoy the game.

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Halo Infinite was all about BRs and that killed the fun for me.

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Given the feedback and the thread running it’s course, I wanted to do a final summary of the collective feedback so far

I have gone through all of the responses, and have put together a collection of the feedback that I would deem constructive; allowing to be built upon

If this reignites the thread that would be great, as I feel that there is a way of bridging that gap and reigniting that love between 343 and the community; it is only a matter of how

Nothing is impossible; only when we say that it is :slight_smile:

Thank you to everyone that has contributed and have made this collection of feedback possible

Before presenting my data, I will quote from @Sordid_Plebeian, which I feel like says it all:

I think the community’s love for Halo is it’s greatest strength and is what has kept this franchise alive despite hard times.

How do you feel about 343 currently, and how do you think they feel about you?

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► i very much dislike this 343, i dont think they would care much for me.

► Throughout 343i’s tenure, I’ve felt they’ve taken the community for granted a lot of the times. They never listened to reasonable feedback or acted accordingly on it when they were finally responsive.

► I must disclose, I haven’t kept up with 343 too much but I currently feel conflicted, or confused. I’m sure all the workers at 343 do care about the community and tried their best to procure a good Halo game, but mismanagement seemed to take a toll on their efforts, hurting their reputation. There’s plenty of criticism on Halo 4, MCC 5, and Infinite, and I don’t want to go on a tangent, but it just hurts to see similar mistakes from previous installments being repeated.

► I feel betrayed by 343. I have very little respect left for the company.

► I would say it felt like 343 had a disdain for what Bungie did with Halo and tried to do their own thing and that really hurt Halos reputation. Now it seems they are struggling to keep Halo Infinite afloat but i do applaud their efforts and i thoroughly enjoy Infinite.

► Don’t know. And within the company I’m sure views vary. As a whole though I don’t feel like fans have been treated as much more than wallets lately.

► I think a lot of problems with this game direct back to the desire to have a major flagship title out on the Xbox Series S/X. I do think some demands of the community are ignored until they absolutely need to put something out to tone down some of the hate coming their way, like Forge.

► I’m going to try to avoid sound too negative, but I generally feel like 343 has failed the point of its existence. At their best, they’re misguided yet passionate, at their worst, they don’t care about halo other than as a money making tool.

They probably don’t care much about me at all. Then again, apparently discord sent me a message asking why I didn’t engage in their free promo if I streamed the game. So maybe they mistakenly think I’m a promoter for them.

► After 22 years of playing all of Halo all I can say is that I miss Bungie. 343i doesn’t care about us, its players. 343i is a corporation and like ALL corporations it exists to make PROFITS for its SHAREHOLDERS. End of story. The players are the product.

How do you feel about Halo currently? - Halo Infinite being at the forefront -

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► Pre Halo Infinite i had no faith that 343 could make a good Halo game. Now i have faith in them to some extent but definitely don’t think Infinite is perfect. As far as multiplayer goes its definitely the best feeling to date.

► I’m cautiously optimistic about Halo’s future as of now. This past year has been rough, as anyone will tell you, and 343i did not deliver the game Infinite needed to be to revive the franchise after a decade of decline.

► The more I look into things, the more I find problems that I would have never even noticed before. So for me, i dont have a quarrel with anyone. I like Halo infinite and enjoy the game. Im fully aware of all the problems

► With Halo Infinite I have mixed feelings. With the addition of custom games, there was an abundant amount of new and unique content. While I still prefer to play the main playlists, particularly BTB and quick play, I still enjoyed playing the custom games from time to time. However, I could care less about the progression system.

► Overall the game is lacking content that should have been there at launch, which is a fact that has been beat to death. That said, this isn’t a HALO problem - this is a gaming industry AAA title as a whole problem. As consumers we are letting many companies/developers get away with this on a consistent basis and it’s bleeding over into titles it should have never been a problem for. I’ve watched two of my favorite games become shells of what they were by spreading content thin or offering very little over long periods of time within the last year. It pushes players away and leaves a mess behind.

► Halo Infinite was supposed to be their big come back, their ‘finally getting it right’ moment. Instead, their comeback is in need of a comeback, because again they missed the mark.

How do you feel about the Halo community currently?

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► The Halo community is pretty barebones at the moment, and despite recent gains made by Infinite, I don’t think many are coming back. There isn’t a lot of excitement or faith around the game anymore, and it will take a big release/content update to really draw in a large crowd again…

► Regarding the community, I can’t say much as I haven’t been too active with it. Nonetheless, from what I do know, I think the community isn’t as volatile as before. They’re still dissatisfied with 343, but there’s nothing much they can do at the moment.

► I can’t relate to the community who are still interested in Infinite. And there isn’t really much else people are talking about atm. And the negativity surrounding the franchise affects how people interact with each other.

► From the community standpoint, which it could be related directly to the poor menu and game continuation situation, it seems like people are hostile in general and it is hard to find a good balance of the social aspect of the game.

There are many good people out there, don’t take that as a blanket statement for everyone, just the frequency of negativity is apparent.

► i think the community gives infinite too much credit.

► Most people are moving past rage and just into indifference for the game. Those who enjoy this game enjoy it, those who don’t enjoy it realize this game will probably never be enjoyable for them.

Do you feel that there is a lack of love in the Halo community - directly from 343, then it’s community - if so, why?

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► I think the lack of love from the community can be explained by the points above; they don’t listen, have put out flawed and incomplete projects, have struggled understanding Halo’s identity in the past and present, and over a decade have showed barely improvement on this front. The community is tired of losing, and is growing ever more nostalgic for the Bungie era. I think there is an underserved amount of hate coming from some corners of the community, but I also don’t think love should be an expectation after how the franchise has been handled by 343i.

► Yes 100%. There is a great lack of love between fans-devs-Halo

I think a big chunk of the community are kinda “heartbroken” (for lack of a better word) and it feels like people are responding to their heartbreak by shutting away their feelings for the franchise.

A lack of love put into the franchise by the devs = lack of love from fans to devs = devs demoralised etcetc.

► Back to what I said previously players leaving and being upset at the game has made it, I don’t want to say toxic, but a more depressing community. There isn’t hype and constant content creation and in the age of social media isn’t a good thing. Plus, the inability to easily stay in matches with teammates you meet in game, mic matches aren’t common, the social aspect is weirdly a secondary thought to a game series that was hugely influential and built around the live service.

► 343 shows very little love. It feels like they have meetings where they try to figure out what pointless thing they can change to make more generic. They’ve often also talked down to people who point out issues. I’d say the love for halo the community has is directly proportional to how its been treated.

What do you love about Halo? / What are you grateful for about Halo?

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► what i love about halo is just how cool everything is, the spartans, the covenant, flood, prometheans, the weapons and vehicles, the levels, just all of it.

► If I don’t stop myself I could write a whole essay on what I love about Halo. To try to put it shortly, Halo always felt special. The story had a unique blend of drama and humor that came from a very personal relationship Bungie had with their franchise, which also extended into everything they tried to provide in their multiplayer experience. It’s a very social experience where at its peak has been a cornerstone of what has made Halo special. Also, the games are just fun. Great sandboxes with interesting enemies to fight, with a rich universe to support the stories that take place in them. It’s not because it’s competitive, it’s not because it’s some super serious and deep science fiction universe, and it’s certainly not because it keeps up with trends. Halo is all about fun and community, and that should reverberate through all facets of a proper Halo game.

► I never was really into Star Wars, but Halo stood out to me because of its militaristic essence mixed with Sci-fi. The franchise was just something that surrounded me as a kid, and it brings back a lot of good feelings.

► This question is too massive lol, sorry

► CE is my all time favorite game. The air of mystery it had has not been marched by any following game. That is mainly due to story structure because at some point you have to dig deeper and can’t keep things hidden forever.

► That said, I still enjoy the games. I may be one of the few out there that actually enjoys all of the series and hasn’t hated many of the changes. (Someone out there is snickering to this, it’s okay, I understand why people hate the changes after 3.) The latest campaign played right into one of my favorite tropes of a protective father-like character with a child/daughter and I enjoyed the game. I do find the open-world aspect to do some achievements rather boring as there’s not a lot of action to really make it less bleak, but the core campaign is actually one of my favorites since 2.

► I was primarily a campaign player. I had all the books up to halo 5, I played every campaign (save halo 5-infinite) countless times and thanks to co-op introduced numerous friends to the franchise.
I love its setting, story, and campaign gameplay. I dipped into MP here and there but when it comes to MP i’m a casual.

► I love that Halo has lasted so long and that so many people play it. I miss seeing the number of players online (Infinite). I miss players talking to their teammates while they play.

What do you love about 343? / What are you grateful for about 343?

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► what i love about 343 is they wanted halo to look and feel more futuristic more than it already was, i can appreciate that but they ended up changing alot of things.

► As I’ve said, 343i has super talented devs that despite going through a year of hell have kept their heads up and are delivering the content we’ve been wanting for a while. Their dedication and commitment should be celebrated, but not make them immune to criticism when they get things wrong. Infinite shows they can make a top tier Halo game when they trust in its core formula and pillars of game design, and I hope they continue investing in what makes Halo Halo.

► I admire how 343 keeps trying upload new content despite experiencing much adversity. From adding the sentinel beam, and halo reach grenade launcher in Halo 5, or continuing to publish content for HI despite the harsh feedback.

► I will defend Halo 4 til my dying breath, both campaign and multiplayer.

MCC is the best thing in gaming, period.

I love that 343 leaned heavily into books and other media to grow the world-lore to an enormous level.

► Okay, hot take for this, I like the multiplayer of 5 but…unlike most… I enjoyed 4&5 and the changes to the art style. I am fine with the original being more the influence of Infinite, but I had fun with the look and gameplay of the prior two games, especially 5.

► I’m glad they got MCC into a decent state. Its the only reason I gave Infinite a chance. MCC is such a consumer friendly product (once it got its act together) that it suggested they finally knew what they were doing.

Sides Notes:

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► I really want this game to succeed, but what’s ruining my enjoyment is the fact that I can’t get armor the old fashioned way cause of mtx. I don’t trust fully 343 yet until they fix the FOMO problem cause it’s still there and I’m not gonna spend another dime at all after S3. I’ll wait for mod support for xbox so that I can experience community creations.

► The problem is 343 came in and instead of making a good Halo game they said “How can we make Halo ours?”

Special Mentions

@Sordid_Plebeian @CapableClover39 @MAGICALGROGU @UrbaneRocket495

If there is anything that I have missed from anyone in particular, be sure to let me know!

Again, thank you to everyone that has contributed to this thread and made this feedback possible

Thank you, I see you, and I will continue to do what I can do help bridge the gap between 343 and the community

Much love guys, take care :green_heart:

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