WHERE HALO WENT WRONG

I would like to talk about where Halo went wrong and why 343 is struggling to keep the Halo community going.

First off I would like to say this is all my opinion I am going off of my opinions and clear facts that you clearly can see. So lately all I’ve been hearing from people is that Halo is going in the right direction and that Halo needs to change. Nobody wants to play the same game over and over again. Here is my argument against that and my reasoning as to why I think this is a bunch of crap.

So I want to give some reasoning from Halos standpoint. Halo 1 2 and 3 all great games and in my opinion the best ones. They were innovative and changed xbox forever. These games were all similar in ways and different in some ways. Whether its going from hitscan to leading shots, adding equipment in the game or the fact that they all have a similar play style. So H1 2 and 3 were pretty much the same as far as gameplay (h2 and 3 having a ranking system in game) and stuff, meaning the core mechanics of the game were the same. (ex: no armor abilities, 5 shot BR??? in the beginning of h4 but later changed back to 4, etc.) Halo Reach on the other hand completely changed the ball game. Bungie went all out and added armor abilities and new weapons and even taking out the BR which makes no sense to me but besides the point it was a completely different game. The community didnt like it, the population dropped really fast and never filled the shoes of the previous Halos. Halo was in a bad way and slowly dying off. People stopped playing halo or just went back to halo 3 a game that’s already at this point in time 3 years old and still fun and more enjoyable then a new game that’s completely different. So the competitive scene for the game went on but people were getting bored and missed the old halos. Bungie left the franchise and Microsoft put together a company called 343 industries to keep the Halo franchise (One that keeps making them millions.) alive and going. They knew Bungie blew it with Reach and needed to bring the community back. So we get all hyped for Halo 4 we think they’re fixing everything wrong with Reach and making it better. WRONG they keep armor abilities in the game, make the BR a 5 shot???, STILL DON’T HAVE A RANKING SYSTEM IN GAME!!!, widen the hitboxes on players making the aiming super simple and making it so you don’t even have to hit them for a shot to count. (NOOBS PLAYGROUND) and pretty much just do the same thing over again just in a different way of bad. So once again we have the same stupid crap in Halo and the community don’t like it. Well at this point people gave up on Halo and the population dropped even faster then Reach did. MLG dropped the game off the circuit because it was an unbalanced game and not that competitive (yes also something about the global championship and a contract they had that was almost due blah blah blah). People once again quit the game and went back to Halo 3 once again and by now the game at that point in time is 5 years old and still fun to play and more enjoyable then a new game that’s different. I’m not even going to discuss MCC because that was a big slap in the face to all the original halos and a terrible launch all because Microsoft wanted to make Christmas sales with a broken game that’s not even done yet. RIP 1 2 and 3. Well halos really hurting now nothing has been done right since halo 3 which btw people still play and prefer and at this point people have given up. Then Halo 5 comes around and gives people hope with a great campaign that was a big lie advertised and was another slap to the face I don’t even want to get into that and a good looking multiplayer with a ranking system (FINALLY) and new stuff added to it. Well I think they failed once again BUT also did make some good improvements that will help halo. Things they did wrong were keeping armor abilities in when people still don’t want it. Having no BR starts with a inconsistent pistol as starting weapon and widening the hit boxes even more and increasing the bullet magnetism and almost completely taking out aim assist which was something that was needed to make halo 1 (the very first console shooter game) actually work because of having a joystick instead of mouse and keyboard. Their lame excuse for this is that it will widen the skill gap and I’m sorry but aiming doesn’t determine all skill and this game almost makes you die 8/10 times if your shots not perfect whether your the more skilled player or not. Having terrible launch playlists leaving out core playlists that should be there since the beginning and having some of the crappiest maps I’ve ever seen in a halo game especially for competitive. Now on some good things they did. They added ranks back, they added the req pack system, they added Warzone, they made the pistol better even though its inconsistent and just terrible in my opinion. Once again though we still have people that prefer the older games and like them better but sadly at this point those games aren’t populated enough anymore since MCC is out which is too broken to bother to play. So I don’t honestly understand why people keep telling me Halo needs to change and its going in the right direction. I’m sorry look at the facts changing the core mechanics of the game and changing a bunch of other random stuff ruined the game and took a big toll on it. I don’t care what pros say they’re going to say whatever so they can keep making money off of gaming and keep the community alive. So if you go off of their opinion stop. Pros aren’t always right and just because they say something don’t mean its true. If a game is bad but I’m making money off of it I’m going to say whatever I can to keep that going whether I’m lying or not. So change did nothing good for Halo and yet people skill keep on saying it??? my opinion but I still think people don’t think.

Lets look at this from other games. lets take any popular game. CS GO, League, Dota, COD for the most part not so much recently because that games dying because they keep changing stuff. ALL OF THESE GAMES NEVER MAKE BIG CHANGES THE CORE MECHANICS STAY THE SAME. Sure they may add content updates and stuff to give you something new but for the most part its the same game. League has only 1 map to play on 5v5. 1 map!!! Where do all of these games stand, well they stand at the top of twitch and they have the biggest community’s and never go through the bull crap Halos going through. So my conclusion is Halo didn’t/don’t need to change and shouldn’t have changed and I think it would’ve been better off if it didn’t. So I ask once again why do I keep hearing this because it has to be the most stupidest thing I’ve ever heard in my entire life. PEOPLE DON’T LIKE CHANGE, PEOPLE DON’T WANT CHANGE!!! Ever hear that saying its been around forever people just don’t pay attention or listen to anything.

I would like to thank anyone that read this entire rant because it is long and my fingers are tired. PLEASE don’t start an argument in this thread I was just expressing my opinion and using facts that I’ve seen over the years. I love halo and I hate to see it like this. I think h5 has potential but I’m almost all out of hope. If anyone would like to comment their opinions please feel free to do so just don’t get angry and rant on me Please and Thank You All once again for taking time to read this. I just had to say something. Also please don’t spell check me I typed a lot and tried my best

imo, I love Halo 5, its the best MP experience I’ve had in a long time, Huge step forward from 4 and Reach. Because of the custom game options to turn off Spartan abilities, it wouldn’t surprise me if the Forgers start remaking classic maps (Beaver, Lockout, Guardian) and disable the Spartan abilities to create Classic Halo games, leading to the creation of a Classic Halo playlist.

I agree like I said this game does have a lot of potential and I think your right I think forgers will bring back old maps.

Simple, 343 adapted from Reach while they should have adapted from Halo 3 because Reach is an early Destiny prototype made to test things out.

And bringing back old maps won’t help. The sandbox is too different from the older Halo games.

Really well said, kid. But unfortunatly this company likes to spend their time recording behind the scene videos more than they do creating a polished game full of content or writing even a somewhat compelling and interesting story. But hopefully someone comes along one day and does Halo justice again.

I would like to point out that Microsoft did not kick Bungir out, Bungie wanted to make other games alongside Halo and Microsoft told they they were only allowed to make Halo’s so they left. 343 was built out of remaining Bungie employees who wanted to continue to make Halo games.

I agree with your history and how things panned out and peoples reactions,

however this game seriously has potential, i stopped playing 4 after about 4 days as it was complete trash and discusted that 343i even tried to sucker people with the hot mess halo 4 was…

BUT halo 5 if tweaked could at least be on par with 3, at the moment its like reach, good but has issues, but at the very least way better than 4 and i will play it.

That wall could have been spread better. But this games multiplayer is really fun for me.

Once forge comes out there will be so many cool custom games and maps and playlists to play that everyone who complained and sold this game or traded it in for black ops will be sorry