Does anyone know the time when Reach came under attack? I know the date, but, for the sake of my machinima, I would like to know the time.
Book or game?
There is no such thing as book or game, there is only one canon.
An advance strike force first arrived at the planet in late july, taking out a major communicationg outpost and attacking several UNSC facilities over a span of several weeks. A significantly larger Covenant fleet arrived on August 14 and began to lay siege on several cities on the planet. The final battle for the planet was fought when a massive Covenant invasion fleet over 300 ships strong arrived in the morning of August 30. Taken directly from halopedia
I dont think we know the exact time.
Well, there are 3 phases. The first is the Covenant incursion, to step up a stronghold in Reach, around 24th of July, or possibly a few days earlier.
The second phase of preliminary attack, which occurred when the Covenant Fleet arrived in mid August.
The final phase began when the rest of the fleet arrived on August the 30th, and glassed the planet.
The canon, if closely examined fits in nicely.
meh. . its like 500 years away, let our great great great great great grandchildren deal with the invasion.
> There is no such thing as book or game, there is only one canon.
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> An advance strike force first arrived at the planet in late july, taking out a major communicationg outpost and attacking several UNSC facilities over a span of several weeks. A significantly larger Covenant fleet arrived on August 14 and began to lay siege on several cities on the planet. The final battle for the planet was fought when a massive Covenant invasion fleet over 300 ships strong arrived in the morning of August 30. Taken directly from halopedia
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> I dont think we know the exact time.
True, but there a few people out there that firmly believe that multiple books > games. It may be wrong, but I just wanted to tell the OP what they were looking for.
Keep in mind that the July attack, given how small it was, was probably kept under wraps by ONI, and the mid-August attack only took place on the continent of Viery. The final attack was the one that utterly swamped the planet.
Bungie stated that Halo Reach trumps the book canon, and 343 is re-releasing the books to reflect that. People can think what they want, but facts are facts.
> Bungie stated that Halo Reach trumps the book canon, and 343 is re-releasing the books to reflect that. People can think what they want, but facts are facts.
It’s not fact, because it’s fiction. There are many examples in history of people misunderstanding and misinterpreting fiction. There’s no such thing as solid facts in reference to fiction… it’s all about how we interpret it. One terrible, meaningless, “canon”-breaking game does not wipe out 10 years of established, legitimate fiction… there’s really no such thing as canon, except how the individual, not the majority, interprets it.
As for the answer to the question, the Covenant first arrived in-system at approximately 0500 Hours, August 30, 2552, according to the original fiction.
> > Bungie stated that Halo Reach trumps the book canon, and 343 is re-releasing the books to reflect that. People can think what they want, but facts are facts.
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> It’s not fact, because it’s fiction. There are many examples in history of people misunderstanding and misinterpreting fiction. There’s no such thing as solid facts in reference to fiction… it’s all about how we interpret it. One terrible, meaningless, “canon”-breaking game does not wipe out 10 years of established, legitimate fiction… there’s really no such thing as canon, except how the individual, not the majority, interprets it.
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> As for the answer to the question, the Covenant first arrived in-system at approximately 0500 Hours, August 30, 2552, according to the original fiction.
Well actually canon is the established storyline set up by the creator of the story’s universe in this case, it’s Bungie, so what they put in a story is considered canon for the Halo universe, no matter how much it contradicts a previously established part of the canon.
> meh. . its like 500 years away, let our great great great great great grandchildren deal with the invasion.
More greats.
I hear what everyone is saying and agree with a lot of things on both sides of the fence, but I have to say that I have to agree with statements like 10 years of novels just might trump (at least some) of the events in one game. I get that bungie created the halo universe but for them to say games trump novels and for everyone to just go with it is kind of crap. TECHNICALLY Halo: The Fall of Reach came out before Xbox even came out and in a very real sense officially started the Halo universe. I’m just saying. Sure it was by a matter of weeks and I realize it might not matter to most people, but its true. Then ten years later as a farewell Bungie releases a totally awesome game - and it raises some pretty significant questions concerning canon and their position is “games trump novels”. Thanks. I think they could have given a little more credence to some fiction that has existed as long as the entire franchise. And Dr. Halsey’s Journal, to me, is a great read and I’m glad it was done by Eric Nylund, but feels very much like an attempt to reconcile discrepancies between the game and novel with as little effort as possible.
And what does it mean to say that canon is what is interpreted by an individual, not the majority of people?? So whatever I interpret as having taken place in the halo universe is part of my own personal halo canon? I get that its ironic to talk about “facts” in the halo universe because it is of course necessarily all fiction anyway, but come on. If anything, its the other way around. What the majority of sources all corroborate is what would be canon, not what I or you or this or that guy all have to say taken individually.
Reach doesn’t change anything, the only novel effected is the first one and even that is only slightly effected.
Calling into question the location of the Pillar of Autumn, and therefore some pretty significant plot points, as well as introducing this concept that cortana was in two fragments, which has never even been hinted at in the last ten years, is significant enough for me to say Halo: Reach doesn’t necessarily fully respect previously established canon.
I think its a “slight” change if you either A) aren’t that familiar with all of the fiction, or B) don’t really care if anything contradicts itself in the first place.
> Calling into question the location of the Pillar of Autumn, and therefore some pretty significant plot points, as well as introducing this concept that cortana was in two fragments, which has never even been hinted at in the last ten years, is significant enough for me to say Halo: Reach doesn’t necessarily fully respect previously established canon.
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> I think its a “slight” change if you either A) aren’t that familiar with all of the fiction, or B) don’t really care if anything contradicts itself in the first place.
If you use logic everything fits fine.
> > Calling into question the location of the Pillar of Autumn, and therefore some pretty significant plot points, as well as introducing this concept that cortana was in two fragments, which has never even been hinted at in the last ten years, is significant enough for me to say Halo: Reach doesn’t necessarily fully respect previously established canon.
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> > I think its a “slight” change if you either A) aren’t that familiar with all of the fiction, or B) don’t really care if anything contradicts itself in the first place.
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> If you use logic everything fits fine.
Well, if you use logic - that’s when questions arise. If you suspend disbelief everything fits fine.