When Bungi made Halo: Everyone had fun

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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343 only wants tryhards to have fun.

if you are stuck against a bunch of adolescent tryhards, you cant quit because they will ban you for habitual quitting. Well i did quit and it has been a while since i played halo, not for being banned but for not having fun. look Im not going to keep playing with these people and it is not that I can’t win. it is the fact that i have more desire to be entertained than to be a tyhard.

Bungi had a special design that allowed gamers of all types (casuals, tryhards, immatures) to enjoy the game but 343 don’t seem to fully understand that concept. Im not sure what type of game design previous halos had but I can tell you that everyone had fun on the same battlefield in halo. Now, it seems to be fitting for those who wants to farm by spawn trapping or work in tryhard fire teams. This halo game is slowly being destroyed.

in the past gamers would play halo instead of CoD for this exact reason, COD being more for the tryhard players while halo was designed to entertain everyone. but gamers in this day and age cant seem to distinguish the major differences between the two games, why? because 343 turned halo into a COD copy-cat imo. and most of the gamers that think halo and cod is the same haven’t been around long enough to remember when both games first came out. COD was on every game system, therefor it was acceptable to attract only tryhard fan base gamers from pc,ps and xbox . On the other hand, Halo5 is only on the XBOX so it is detrimental to attract only a tryhard fan base by shaming other loyal casual fans with asinine “Ban Hammer” and allowing all game modes to be ruined by tryhard mentality. At this rate I don’t see a bright future for halo.

I would not be surprised if 343 stopped making content because lack of financial support. Because, the tryhard farmers that you tailor your game to are not going to buy your REQ packs with real money, very smart 343 for giving them the keys to the game, while banning others that quit and refuse to play with those tryhard players. Im sure Bungi would $ee things differently.

Im not saying Bungi hit a home run with Destiny, but they sure had bases loaded with Halo.

again, I can “WIN” if i wanted but to me it is not all about that; I just wanted casual fun with halo but its just not there anymore.

edit: 12:46 est. you see, most of these following replies all support “tryhardism”. Im done with Halo for a while because I’ve been a slightly competitive but very loyal halo fan, and there is really no game mode available for low key cooperative players other than the boring coop campaign. Im not frustrated or mad as many of you assume. Actually i was proud of my gold rank until you tryhards pointed out that it actually sucks or that i need to work on aiming skills. you kids have extreme expectations beyond my preferences.

When Bungie made Halo: there was always something new and exciting happening each simple round, the passion to play. now Halo is so predictable (tryhard’s heaven) and boring like COD imo.

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So you are mad because you are getting you butt kicked? Got it.

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Look, I have a lot of issues with 343i. I don’t think I’ll ever buy another product made by 343i again, but there is no way in Hell I want Bungie back. Not after Destiny.

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> So you are mad because you are getting you butt kicked? Got it.

unfortunatly, it will be years from now before you get it. get it? there is someone like you born every minute huh?

um no, I am a halo veteran, not a noob. there is a very big difference.

If I’m losing it is because of unwillingness and boredom, not inability. look when I was you Kids age I used to see the glass half full, but now I see halo half empty

also, have you even read my post?

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I can assure you people didn’t always have fun.

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I stopped reading when i read tryhard. Dumbest phrase ever.

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Nostalgic bias, I’m afraid.

edit: oooorrrrr… Trolling?

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> > So you are mad because you are getting you butt kicked? Got it.
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> unfortunatly, it will be years from now before you get it. get it?

You complain about “Try Hards” All thru out your rant. That immediately tells me that you not performing as well as you expected. I also looked at your record. Not to criticize, but its obvious you are not doing well. Its fulled expected for you not to enjoy the game if you are getting beat on 1 vs 1 as well as a team. You expect to go into a match and not try as still do well. Thats not going to happen with this game. It won’t happen with MCC either. Heck not shooters in general. Every shooter I have ever played people play to win. That is the very nature of a shooter game. Warzone and BTB are casual. But even in those people are going to play to win which means taking you out if you are the enemy. I free admit that when I first got the game I was not doing well. I even considered selling it and moving on to something else. However I instead decided to learn the game and how the maps are played. I have a job, a wife and child, So its not like I can play every night like the hardcore players. I typically only play on Saturday afternoons and a little on Sunday. Thats it maybe 6 to 8 hrs a week. With so little playing time, I still got better, now I enjoy the game. Given your stats, It apparent that your skills need work. I will offer some suggestions.

  1. Your aim is off. this is based on your stats, nothing more. So I would guess you need to turn down the sensitivity on your controller. You are most likely over correcting while aiming, thus missing shots more often than landing them.
    2.Play with your teammates. That means following or partnering with them 2 vs 1 is always better than 1 vs 1.
  2. Focus on headshots. Don’t worry about evasion techniques until you still landing more shots.
    4, Pay attention to where your teammates are.
  3. In Warzone, Don’t get out in the open. Until you get better, focus on defending a single base.
    6, In Warzone, don’t rush an enemy base alone.
  4. When attacking an enemy base marines are a simple headshot. Bodyshots take way too long to kill marines.

Now with all of that said, your complaint about lack of social gametypes is valid and is spoke of often on this forum. Nothing I can do about that other than it my understanding that more social gametypes are coming.

Play Warzone exclusively for a while. I’m almost positive your sensitivity being too high is causing much of your grief.

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> > > So you are mad because you are getting you butt kicked? Got it.
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> > unfortunatly, it will be years from now before you get it. get it?
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> You complain about “Try Hards” All thru out your rant. That immediately tells me that you not performing as well as you expected. I also looked at your record. Not to criticize, but its obvious you are not doing well. Its fulled expected for you not to enjoy the game if you are getting beat on 1 vs 1 as well as a team. You expect to go into a match and not try as still do well. Thats not going to happen with this game. It won’t happen with MCC either. Heck not shooters in general. Every shooter I have ever played people play to win. That is the very nature of a shooter game. Warzone and BTB are casual. But even in those people are going to play to win which means taking you out if you are the enemy. I free admit that when I first got the game I was not doing well. I even considered selling it and moving on to something else. However I instead decided to learn the game and how the maps are played. I have a job, a wife and child, So its not like I can play every night like the hardcore players. I typically only play on Saturday afternoons and a little on Sunday. Thats it maybe 6 to 8 hrs a week. With so little playing time, I still got better, now I enjoy the game. Given your stats, It apparent that your skills need work. I will offer some suggestions.
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> 1. Your aim is off. this is based on your stats, nothing more. So I would guess you need to turn down the sensitivity on your controller. You are most likely over correcting while aiming, thus missing shots more often than landing them.
> 2.Play with your teammates. That means following or partnering with them 2 vs 1 is always better than 1 vs 1.
> 3. Focus on headshots. Don’t worry about evasion techniques until you still landing more shots.
> 4, Pay attention to where your teammates are.
> 5. In Warzone, Don’t get out in the open. Until you get better, focus on defending a single base.
> 6, In Warzone, don’t rush an enemy base alone.
> 7. When attacking an enemy base marines are a simple headshot. Bodyshots take way too long to kill marines.
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> Now with all of that said, your complaint about lack of social gametypes is valid and is spoke of often on this forum. Nothing I can do about that other than it my understanding that more social gametypes are coming.
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> Play Warzone exclusively for a while. I’m almost positive your sensitivity being too high is causing much of your grief.

nope, like i said before im done, and unfortunately the future of halo is also done, thanks to you…

stats? i dont care about mine or your stats

question for you, how many req packs did you buy? oh, you are too good and win req points very often so you dont have to buy req packs, awh good for you. 343 is the ones lo$ing that match, not me lol.

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When Bungie made Halo they gave us armor lock.

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The Bungie that made Halo no longer exists.

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> > So you are mad because you are getting you butt kicked? Got it.
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> unfortunatly, it will be years from now before you get it. get it? there is someone like you born every minute huh?
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> um no, I am a halo veteran, not a noob. there is a very big difference.
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> If I’m losing it is because of unwillingness and boredom, not inability. look when I was you Kids age I used to see the glass half full, but now I see halo half empty
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> also, have you even read my post?

So people lose because they’re “unwilling and bored” now?

To to your actual post: h5 lacks variety which I find is the problem. There simply isn’t enough for people who like different things. Even the so called “social” game types aren’t social imo because they still add to your overall k/d. So if a supposed “tryhard” wants to play for fun without worrying about rank/k/d, they can’t unless they want to play even harder when they go back into ranked games to makeup for playing the said social playlist. So if they don’t want to make up for it later, then they’ll just play tryhard in warzone, social snipes, CTF, ect ect. Imo it’s not social unless you remove ranks, k/d, incentives to boost your stats. And take W/L out. That’s my take on halo 5s social/ranked issue. Plus the lack of game types. No infection (don’t care for personally but I understand others want it), oddball, doubles, ect ect.

to your reference of CoD and halo. H4 is still the only game is compare to CoD. H5 still has one of the longest ttk of fps games and it’s arena based which very little games are now a days. It’s still halo. I’d also argue CoD is popular because of it’s easy to play style while halo has always been the harder game to play. thats just my take though.

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> > > > So you are mad because you are getting you butt kicked? Got it.
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> > > unfortunatly, it will be years from now before you get it. get it?
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> > You complain about “Try Hards” All thru out your rant. That immediately tells me that you not performing as well as you expected. I also looked at your record. Not to criticize, but its obvious you are not doing well. Its fulled expected for you not to enjoy the game if you are getting beat on 1 vs 1 as well as a team. You expect to go into a match and not try as still do well. Thats not going to happen with this game. It won’t happen with MCC either. Heck not shooters in general. Every shooter I have ever played people play to win. That is the very nature of a shooter game. Warzone and BTB are casual. But even in those people are going to play to win which means taking you out if you are the enemy. I free admit that when I first got the game I was not doing well. I even considered selling it and moving on to something else. However I instead decided to learn the game and how the maps are played. I have a job, a wife and child, So its not like I can play every night like the hardcore players. I typically only play on Saturday afternoons and a little on Sunday. Thats it maybe 6 to 8 hrs a week. With so little playing time, I still got better, now I enjoy the game. Given your stats, It apparent that your skills need work. I will offer some suggestions.
> >
> > 1. Your aim is off. this is based on your stats, nothing more. So I would guess you need to turn down the sensitivity on your controller. You are most likely over correcting while aiming, thus missing shots more often than landing them.
> > 2.Play with your teammates. That means following or partnering with them 2 vs 1 is always better than 1 vs 1.
> > 3. Focus on headshots. Don’t worry about evasion techniques until you still landing more shots.
> > 4, Pay attention to where your teammates are.
> > 5. In Warzone, Don’t get out in the open. Until you get better, focus on defending a single base.
> > 6, In Warzone, don’t rush an enemy base alone.
> > 7. When attacking an enemy base marines are a simple headshot. Bodyshots take way too long to kill marines.
> >
> > Now with all of that said, your complaint about lack of social gametypes is valid and is spoke of often on this forum. Nothing I can do about that other than it my understanding that more social gametypes are coming.
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> > Play Warzone exclusively for a while. I’m almost positive your sensitivity being too high is causing much of your grief.
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> nope, like i said before im done, and unfortunately the future of halo is also done, thanks to you…
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> question for you, how many req packs did you buy?

None, I didn’t need to. I don’t care about armor. I also rarely use power weapons in Warzone. Go look at my stats. I’ve only used a tank like one time in 250+ matches. I use Warzone as my practice for Arena. So I focus on using the BR, and DMR and will occasionally spawn a sniper. Half my power weapons kills have been from a weapon that I picked up .

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So many “try hard” posts lately. Dude deal with it. If you have been playing halo for as long as you say you have, than you must know that there has always been a competetive aspect to the game. Now whether it is more prominent in this game than others is up for debate. But if you want a relaxed feel for this game then go play warzone assault, or even BTB. Not as many “try hards”

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I am no where near a tryhard. Ive been playing Halo since i was 16 in 2001. This is by and far the best multiplayer in the series, in my opinion. I absolutely love this game. Ive also bought WZ and Arena bundles. The limited offer packs and id say around $100 on misc reqs. Dont you dare tell anyone that they are the reason Halo is dying when YOU are the one that cant find enjoyment.

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I remember hating Rach when it first came out, grew to love it. Halo 3 was the pinnacle, but man that was hard, I never got above skill rank 20 though was playing four way on an old CRT TV screen back in the day!

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Maybe you should start by spelling Bungie right. That would make your argument a bit more credible. (As would the statements saying you’re a veteran, supposedly)

Also, why do people use the word Tryhard? Is this the new buzzword? Because I don’t see people going around calling social players “Filthy Casuals”, though by how much the former term is being thrown around, it should be.

At least you acknowledge that they aren’t mutually exclusive in the game’s design, so I’ll give you that. And I’ll agree that a balance hasn’t been found in the playstyles. But calling H5 a COD copycat? Halo 4 was more of one, and Halo 5 at least finds the middle ground between modern and classic. Just my opinion, you don’t have to agree, but it’s my perspective (Inb4 “your opinion is wrong”)

Maybe you forgot, or don’t remember, but Halo: Reach was the first one to push quit bans. I don’t wholly agree with them being in social playlists, though.

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This just isn’t true at all. Bungie was far from perfect and I think this community is either too young now to remember their blunders or are just looking at the past with a heavy bias.

The competitive community was in a flurry when Halo 2 came out. Soooo many people hated that game as it was leaps and bounds different from Halo CE. Casuals also failed to fully enjoy the game because of the high levels of cheating at almost all ranks and sometimes even in team training playlists. There was also no campaign co op online or PVE aside from campaign. Custom game options were fairly limited as well. Granted the game is older and was quite good for its time.

Halo 3 once again struck a raw nerve with the competitive crowd. BR spread being the source of a lot of tension between the community and Bungie. But that was, you are right, truly a game all crowds loved.

Reach… Well, let’s just not talk about Reach. I’m unsure why this forum regards it so highly. Maybe a lot of people here started with Reach. It was a good game with an impressive feature set, one we’ve not seen since. But it was a competitive joke and effectively killed balanced, arena Halo. Only halo 5 is beginning to revive that. The Storyline was a slap in the face to those who read the books as well. But again it had so much content that casuals could enjoy themselves for years. I loved the amount of stuff one could do.

Bungie was awesome but we can stop pretending they were without many flaws.

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> > > So you are mad because you are getting you butt kicked? Got it.
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> > unfortunatly, it will be years from now before you get it. get it? there is someone like you born every minute huh?
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> > um no, I am a halo veteran, not a noob. there is a very big difference.
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> > If I’m losing it is because of unwillingness and boredom, not inability. look when I was you Kids age I used to see the glass half full, but now I see halo half empty
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> > also, have you even read my post?
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> So people lose because they’re “unwilling and bored” now?
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> To to your actual post: h5 lacks variety which I find is the problem. There simply isn’t enough for people who like different things. Even the so called “social” game types aren’t social imo because they still add to your overall k/d. So if a supposed “tryhard” wants to play for fun without worrying about rank/k/d, they can’t unless they want to play even harder when they go back into ranked games to makeup for playing the said social playlist. So if they don’t want to make up for it later, then they’ll just play tryhard in warzone, social snipes, CTF, ect ect. Imo it’s not social unless you remove ranks, k/d, incentives to boost your stats. And take W/L out. That’s my take on halo 5s social/ranked issue. Plus the lack of game types. No infection (don’t care for personally but I understand others want it), oddball, doubles, ect ect.
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> to your reference of CoD and halo. H4 is still the only game is compare to CoD. H5 still has one of the longest ttk of fps games and it’s arena based which very little games are now a days. It’s still halo. I’d also argue CoD is popular because of it’s easy to play style while halo has always been the harder game to play. thats just my take though.

I think CoD is the more popular game because a few reasons. First, the graphics are way better than H5. I’ve said this a few times on here but H5 is visually the worst FPS on the next gen console. That is a pretty minor thing if you ask me, it is more about the game play; and again CoD beats out H5. The actual player movements feel a lot better, there is no clunkiness in trying to climb through openings. The sound IMO is much better in CoD as well. much more bass in gunshots and explosions. Much fuller experience. Finally, and I think this is the biggest difference and what makes CoD more popular/fun; Load-out Customization. There is no fighting for power weapons; and I get that die-hard Halo fans will say its about map control and tactics and what not, I hear you, I won’t argue with that point. But being able to select the exact weapon you want and the ability to customize it with attachments is what draws the record breaking numbers that CoD does. Oh, and you don’t get banned.

I think 343 did what it wanted to do. Cater to the MLG players and leave the rest to get farmed. Sure, the elite players love it but 343 will never make as much money as Activision, even with their bull**** micro transactions.

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> This just isn’t true at all. Bungie was far from perfect and I think this community is either too young now to remember their blunders or are just looking at the past with a heavy bias.
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> The competitive community was in a flurry when Halo 2 came out. Soooo many people hated that game as it was leaps and bounds different from Halo CE. Casuals also failed to fully enjoy the game because of the high levels of cheating at almost all ranks and sometimes even in team training playlists. There was also no campaign co op online or PVE aside from campaign. Custom game options were fairly limited as well. Granted the game is older and was quite good for its time.
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> Halo 3 once again struck a raw nerve with the competitive crowd. BR spread being the source of a lot of tension between the community and Bungie. But that was, you are right, truly a game all crowds loved.
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> Reach… Well, let’s just not talk about Reach. I’m unsure why this forum regards it so highly. Maybe a lot of people here started with Reach. It was a good game with an impressive feature set, one we’ve not seen since. But it was a competitive joke and effectively killed balanced, arena Halo. Only halo 5 is beginning to revive that. The Storyline was a slap in the face to those who read the books as well. But again it had so much content that casuals could enjoy themselves for years. I loved the amount of stuff one could do.
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> Bungie was awesome but we can stop pretending they were without many flaws.

Not that my opinion matters, but I absolutely despise H3 in MCC. Not sure what the deal is , but it harder to get kills with the BR in H3 compared to any other halo game. Whether its the spread, hit detection, hit scan ro whatever. On MCC it can take as much as 7 or 8 shots at close to mid range to get a kill and I’m talking headshots. The hits simply don’t land. I can rek shop in CE, H2A and H4. In H3 I have to find alternative ways to get kills such as vehicles and power weapons. Maybe h3 on 360 is different. On MCC it is terrible.