When are we getting KoTH and why no oddball arena?

Two of my favourite Halo gamemodes are no where to be seen, has anyone heard anything about these modes returning to Halo 5?

Turns out oddballs in the game but not in arena, why?

oddball is already in halo 5 but not in matchmaking as for king of the hill it is actually my favourite objective game mode and am also sad it is not here. the reason for this I suspect is because we have territories and so it is not a high priority for them and they would much rather have infection and race completed first

We already have em

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I now see we have oddball but no point if it’s not in matchmaking but we do not have King of the hill

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Wtf brain? Why did I think koth was ctf. Excuse my 3 am brain.

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XD no worries now I want a weird hybrid of CTF king of the hill

Because 343 want to push Strongholds on us. Some of these maps would be good for oddball, classic oddball not the abomination that was H4 oddball.

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> Because 343 want to push Strongholds on us. Some of these maps would be good for oddball, classic oddball not the abomination that was H4 oddball.

Isn’t strongholds just domination from cod or conquest from BF? It’s the most generic objective mode ever. It’s like H2 territory’s waters down

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Pretty much, its just BF conquest. I don’t mind it actually but I’ve never played BF or CoD conquest/domination that can snowball like H5 strongholds. Maybe some tweaking is in order for the gametype