I mean come on … anything about humans vs aliens is that the aliens have advanced technology and come to invade/visit Earth. And when humans have to fight we are usually at a disadvantage. Even in Halo it’s like the same thing. Why can’t it have been the other way around…
Avatar?
> Avatar?
A rare exception, that is.
Also, franchises with a variety of different species, such as Star Trek or Mass Effect, will include aliens that are at a lower technological level. But still, the “Humans are the underdog” trope gets old after it’s used ten thousand times.
Because one sided curbstomps make for very boring, very short stories. People like to see an against all odds, underdog story. Take a look at professional wrestling, for an example.
Well, low-tech aliens can’t invade Earth, and people usually don’t like stories where humans are the bad guys, so you really don’t have many options.
generally if you look at the the whole theme you never hear of a plot where humans invade alien worlds except on a few occasions.
In short if aliens can visit us and we cant visit them…Alien tech > Human tech
Actually, now that I have been thinking about it, there is a long standing (35 years!) series of entertainment which has almost always had humans being more advanced than their alien foes … the Japanese Super Sentai (adapted in the west as Power Rangers).
A majority of the time, the invading group of aliens is relegated to using magic or other ‘primitive’ means to attack, while the current Sentai is blessed with an increasing roster, and increasingly complex and effective gadgetry, armored forms, and even more giant robots than they started with.
A recent parody series, “Kanpai! Senshi After V!” (Cheers! Warriors After 5!) touches on this as the aging Sentai sits around in a bar kicking back drinks…
“Only natural Blue tries to take these things on himself, doesn’t 5 against 1 odds seems a little … cheap?”
“Ya know, these battles would go a lot faster and easier if we just busted out the robot at the start, squish them before they even become a problem.”
> Because one sided curbstomps make for very boring, very short stories. People like to see an against all odds, underdog story. Take a look at professional wrestling, for an example.
Not only that but think of it this way.
There is no set amount of time it takes a race to go from smashing stones together to make fire, to flying among the stars in powerful starships and living on other planets. So even if two races begin their path to the space age, there is no guarantee that both races would travel to the stars at the same time.
Hell, when the human race first went into space, it was the US and Russia, and slowly other nations started trying their hand at sending people to space, and not every nation has sent people to space yet.
Now the other part of the problem, Our sun is still young, and who’s to say that the advanced aliens aren’t from a star that from our corner of space their star is yellow or blue, when in fact their star could be long gone or close to dying, so it’s safe to say that it is possible that they started out around the same time in their star’s life, as we did ours, so they could also end up being an older race than we are.
> I mean come on … anything about humans vs aliens is that the aliens have advanced technology and come to invade/visit Earth. And when humans have to fight we are usually at a disadvantage. Even in Halo it’s like the same thing. Why can’t it have been the other way around…
Who’s to say they all were advanced?, think about it, the Covenant are a suppressive culture that forced most cultures into their religious cult and anyone who disagreed was marked as a Heretic and most likely killed/tortured. If it wasn’t for accidental fire at Harvest then they may even forced the UNSC into the Covenant.
> Who’s to say they all were advanced?, think about it, the Covenant are a suppressive culture that forced most cultures into their religious cult and anyone who disagreed was marked as a Heretic and most likely killed/tortured. If it wasn’t for accidental fire at Harvest then they may even forced the UNSC into the Covenant.
The Hierarchs wouldn’t have allowed us to join up, regardless of Harvest. Our status as Reclaimers would have led to the ruin of their Great Journey, and therefore their power over the empire.
It isn’t always technologically advanced aliens attacking humanity, take a look at the Arachnids from the movie-version of Starship Troopers simply using plasma produced by giant bugs to launch asteroids towards Earth or simply using their numbers to overwhelm the Federation. I believe the same goes for the Formics in the Ender series.
> > Who’s to say they all were advanced?, think about it, the Covenant are a suppressive culture that forced most cultures into their religious cult and anyone who disagreed was marked as a Heretic and most likely killed/tortured. If it wasn’t for accidental fire at Harvest then they may even forced the UNSC into the Covenant.
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> The Hierarchs wouldn’t have allowed us to join up, regardless of Harvest. Our status as Reclaimers would have led to the ruin of their Great Journey, and therefore their power over the empire.
I understand that to a degree but that wouldn’t have stopped them from forcing us to do meaningless jobs aka slavery from factions of the Covenant due to the Brutes since they were more likely to enslave any humans or kill them and I have doubts about them listening to every order the Prophets told them then there’s the Jackals where they were actually trading with the Insurrectionist before the Covenant threat, the Elites actually frequently questioned the Prophets about if they should join because they were interested in the humans joining the Covenant because they were impressed by the humans. The only real reason it never happened is because of the Prophets dismissal of them so if it wasn’t for that one reason alone then it actually might have been possible.
> > > Who’s to say they all were advanced?, think about it, the Covenant are a suppressive culture that forced most cultures into their religious cult and anyone who disagreed was marked as a Heretic and most likely killed/tortured. If it wasn’t for accidental fire at Harvest then they may even forced the UNSC into the Covenant.
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> > The Hierarchs wouldn’t have allowed us to join up, regardless of Harvest. Our status as Reclaimers would have led to the ruin of their Great Journey, and therefore their power over the empire.
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> I understand that to a degree but that wouldn’t have stopped them from forcing us to do meaningless jobs aka slavery from factions of the Covenant due to the Brutes since they were more likely to enslave any humans or kill them and I have doubts about them listening to every order the Prophets told them then there’s the Jackals where they were actually trading with the Insurrectionist before the Covenant threat, <mark>the Elites actually frequently questioned the Prophets about if they should join because they were interested in the humans joining the Covenant because they were impressed by the humans</mark>. The only real reason it never happened is because of the Prophets dismissal of them so if it wasn’t for that one reason alone then it actually might have been possible.
Not as much as you would think, not anymore at least. Yes, there were questions, but only after the war dragged on for as long as it did.
> > > > Who’s to say they all were advanced?, think about it, the Covenant are a suppressive culture that forced most cultures into their religious cult and anyone who disagreed was marked as a Heretic and most likely killed/tortured. If it wasn’t for accidental fire at Harvest then they may even forced the UNSC into the Covenant.
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> > > The Hierarchs wouldn’t have allowed us to join up, regardless of Harvest. Our status as Reclaimers would have led to the ruin of their Great Journey, and therefore their power over the empire.
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> > I understand that to a degree but that wouldn’t have stopped them from forcing us to do meaningless jobs aka slavery from factions of the Covenant due to the Brutes since they were more likely to enslave any humans or kill them and I have doubts about them listening to every order the Prophets told them then there’s the Jackals where they were actually trading with the Insurrectionist before the Covenant threat, <mark>the Elites actually frequently questioned the Prophets about if they should join because they were interested in the humans joining the Covenant because they were impressed by the humans</mark>. The only real reason it never happened is because of the Prophets dismissal of them so if it wasn’t for that one reason alone then it actually might have been possible.
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> Not as much as you would think, not anymore at least. Yes, there were questions, but only after the war dragged on for as long as it did.
Probably true but at the moment that’s a complicated situation since the remnants of the Covenant are the ones that are a threat to humanity but there are still many that still are allied with the humans like the Arbiter since he’s been trying to declare a truce with the Brutes to work with the UNSC and that might explain the lack of them in H4.
> Probably true but at the moment that’s a complicated situation since the remnants of the Covenant are the ones that are a threat to humanity but there are still many that still are allied with the humans like the Arbiter since he’s been trying to declare a truce with the Brutes to work with the UNSC and that might explain the lack of them in H4.
The Arbiter’s truce didn’t work and all-out war between the Sangheili and Jiralhanae will commence until 2559 as a result. Really, the Arbiter is all we have as a formal ally and he is simply not in control of his entire planet. Humanity doesn’t have many friends, even among our own.
> > Probably true but at the moment that’s a complicated situation since the remnants of the Covenant are the ones that are a threat to humanity but there are still many that still are allied with the humans like the Arbiter since he’s been trying to declare a truce with the Brutes to work with the UNSC and that might explain the lack of them in H4.
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> The Arbiter’s truce didn’t work and all-out war between the Sangheili and Jiralhanae will commence until 2559 as a result. Really, the Arbiter is all we have as a formal ally and he is simply not in control of his entire planet. Humanity doesn’t have many friends, even among our own.
I guess that would explain why they heavily fortified themselves in H4 with the Infinity.
But I’m not sure about the alliances since everyone seems to hate everyone, what bugs me is this: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140227004634/halo/images/0/0d/Arbiter_Negotiating.png
Ooh! I got another one! How about the xenomorphs from Alien?
> Ooh! I got another one! How about the xenomorphs from Alien?
They weren’t really advanced technology, they were just biologically created by the Engineers and also breeded by Predators for hunting.
I would like to see a game/movie/book about humans and aliens been pretty much at the same tech level. Set in the future obviously but neither faction has technology that totally obliterates the other.
Locked in a stalemate if you will
Failing that then how about a game/movie/book about humanity been the alien invaders?
Non-advanced aliens wouldn’t be able to go in space. aliens without space travel would be harder to find.