Whats the point of the season pass. ( free leader)

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> > > Stop complaining. People who have brought the season pass clearly want to play everything 343 has to throw at them. True fans would buy the pass. Those who don’t aren’t dedicated fans.
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> > Why are you putting out useless “Us vs. Them” ideology? It’s that kind of thing that’s truly “dividing the community.”
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> Because we aren’t true fans,didn’t you hear? I’m not paying for a season pass because I’m not interested in it…hopefully there are cutscenes for campaign dlc which I will just watch on youtube …they’re always these ridiculous people who apparently are the only ones who can measure how much of a true or dedicated fan someone is

Well some people dont mind paying for dlc. but I see what both of you mean.

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> > > > > Stop complaining. People who have brought the season pass clearly want to play everything 343 has to throw at them. True fans would buy the pass. Those who don’t aren’t dedicated fans. Also what’s wrong with this, we live in a capitalism society, they can do what they want, as long as they are happy and that we think we are happy with the consumer goods. I really don’t see what the deal is other than people complaining as they can’t afford it.
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> > > > That’s some of the biggest bs I’ve ever seen…apparently all my time and money spent on Halo doesn’t equal to be a true fan because I didn’t get the season pass…get out of here with that
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> > > True fans would buy the seasons pass.
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> > Whatever you say junior,check my halo gamerscore and overall play time for games I’m definitely a dedicated fan without buying these season passes…get off your damn pedestal
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> oh ok sorry no lifer you’re a true fan and a true jew too
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Don’t be a loser. that low and unnecessary

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> Season pass, while it does have it’s advantages, is more a commitment from fans to show support to developers that thy are exited to contribute their money now, so that in future they will recive cool new content

Well that and as people have said season pass raw is like 25 to the estimated cost of 30 for six leaders at 6 each, plus whatever campaign dlc costs.

Plus if you bought ultimate the season pass costed £7.50, base game £50 and halo wars 1 £7.50…

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> > > > > > Stop complaining. People who have brought the season pass clearly want to play everything 343 has to throw at them. True fans would buy the pass. Those who don’t aren’t dedicated fans. Also what’s wrong with this, we live in a capitalism society, they can do what they want, as long as they are happy and that we think we are happy with the consumer goods. I really don’t see what the deal is other than people complaining as they can’t afford it.
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> > > > Of cause it’s subjective, your process of commenting ‘subjective’ is subjective in itself. We can’t be objective, even science isn’t 100% objective, scientists decide what to study. Ever though about that, they wouldn’t study something they hated would they
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> > > Your “subjectivity” doesn’t speak for everyone so stop over generalising and assuming people’s habits based off of capitalism and being a true fan. Its shallow and made worse by not understanding how to aim for a solution and not just refuting a person opinion.
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> > > The reason I wrote that is because they way you comment is objective- you use rhetoric to back a multifaceted statement thinking you are making it one sided.
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> > > Scientist can study anything, as anyone can study anything, no matter the study topic.
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> > Scientists study what they actively choose. I wouldn’t study something I don’t like for example poo. They need funding to get their research done, however in order to get funding they need to research a highly topical area in society, if it’s a boring topic then they won’t get the funding. Also in a lot of cases their ‘useful’ work can’t even be replicated, crucial in the scientific world, especially in areas such as cancer.
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> > Habits are based off capitalism. The device you are using, you brought based off media advertisement. Part of capitalism. Don’t go telling me habits aren’t based off capitalism.
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> I dont need you to reiterate. My grandfather was a scientist in nevada.
> My father is a businessman.
> I dont need a condescending lecture. you missed the point and just keep yapyaping.
> **All above^**Op is mistaken. kinsano isnt free nuff said

Henderson?

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> > > > > > > Stop complaining. People who have brought the season pass clearly want to play everything 343 has to throw at them. True fans would buy the pass. Those who don’t aren’t dedicated fans. Also what’s wrong with this, we live in a capitalism society, they can do what they want, as long as they are happy and that we think we are happy with the consumer goods. I really don’t see what the deal is other than people complaining as they can’t afford it.
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> > > > > Of cause it’s subjective, your process of commenting ‘subjective’ is subjective in itself. We can’t be objective, even science isn’t 100% objective, scientists decide what to study. Ever though about that, they wouldn’t study something they hated would they
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> > > > Your “subjectivity” doesn’t speak for everyone so stop over generalising and assuming people’s habits based off of capitalism and being a true fan. Its shallow and made worse by not understanding how to aim for a solution and not just refuting a person opinion.
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> > > > The reason I wrote that is because they way you comment is objective- you use rhetoric to back a multifaceted statement thinking you are making it one sided.
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> > > > Scientist can study anything, as anyone can study anything, no matter the study topic.
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> > > Scientists study what they actively choose. I wouldn’t study something I don’t like for example poo. They need funding to get their research done, however in order to get funding they need to research a highly topical area in society, if it’s a boring topic then they won’t get the funding. Also in a lot of cases their ‘useful’ work can’t even be replicated, crucial in the scientific world, especially in areas such as cancer.
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> > > Habits are based off capitalism. The device you are using, you brought based off media advertisement. Part of capitalism. Don’t go telling me habits aren’t based off capitalism.
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> > I dont need you to reiterate. My grandfather was a scientist in nevada.
> > My father is a businessman.
> > I dont need a condescending lecture. you missed the point and just keep yapyaping.
> > **All above^**Op is mistaken. kinsano isnt free nuff said
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> Henderson?

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> > > > Stop complaining. People who have brought the season pass clearly want to play everything 343 has to throw at them. True fans would buy the pass. Those who don’t aren’t dedicated fans.
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> > > Why are you putting out useless “Us vs. Them” ideology? It’s that kind of thing that’s truly “dividing the community.”
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> > Because we aren’t true fans,didn’t you hear? I’m not paying for a season pass because I’m not interested in it…hopefully there are cutscenes for campaign dlc which I will just watch on youtube …they’re always these ridiculous people who apparently are the only ones who can measure how much of a true or dedicated fan someone is
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> Well some people dont mind paying for dlc. but I see what both of you mean.

I didn’t mind paying for dlc in previous Halo titles like 3 because it was decent dev made maps,I don’t wanna pay for dlc in newer games because i don’t like 343’s take on the halo franchise and me putting even more money into the pot besides buying the game is wrong

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> Another free leader and the campaign dlc will be free as well…
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> Sooo how is this right for season pass owner

I don’t know where you read, and what article said that campaign dlc would be free, because its literally in the description of the Season Pass! Its all us here on out, if I’m not mistaken, and new maps being free is excusable because that would divide the community, AGAIN!
Don’t you worry ChaosMan! You’ll get you’re bang buck soon enough, the only concern I have is waiting the next 6 months out!

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> Season Pass gets you all Leaders and Campaign DLC for free. Each leader is $6 and who know about Campaign DLC. If the files are to be believed we’re getting 7 Payed DLC leaders (Forge was free for everyone), so in total that’s $42 in Leaders alone + whatever Campaign DLC costs. Getting a likely $50 value of DLC for $20 plus Halo Wars DE is a ridiculously good deal.

That was my entire justification for getting Ultimate edition when I was pre ordering. It was too good to pass up.

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> > Season Pass gets you all Leaders and Campaign DLC for free. Each leader is $6 and who know about Campaign DLC. If the files are to be believed we’re getting 7 Payed DLC leaders (Forge was free for everyone), so in total that’s $42 in Leaders alone + whatever Campaign DLC costs. Getting a likely $50 value of DLC for $20 plus Halo Wars DE is a ridiculously good deal.
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> That was my entire justification for getting Ultimate edition when I was pre ordering. It was too good to pass up.

Yup same

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> > > > > Stop complaining. People who have brought the season pass clearly want to play everything 343 has to throw at them. True fans would buy the pass. Those who don’t aren’t dedicated fans.
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> > > > Why are you putting out useless “Us vs. Them” ideology? It’s that kind of thing that’s truly “dividing the community.”
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> > > Because we aren’t true fans,didn’t you hear? I’m not paying for a season pass because I’m not interested in it…hopefully there are cutscenes for campaign dlc which I will just watch on youtube …they’re always these ridiculous people who apparently are the only ones who can measure how much of a true or dedicated fan someone is
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> > Well some people dont mind paying for dlc. but I see what both of you mean.
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> I didn’t mind paying for dlc in previous Halo titles like 3 because it was decent dev made maps,I don’t wanna pay for dlc in newer games because i don’t like 343’s take on the halo franchise and me putting even more money into the pot besides buying the game is wrong

Well some people do and suit yourself.

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> Sooo how is this right for season pass owners?

Kinsano was not free for people who didn’t own the season pass. I also don’t believe that the campaign dlc will be free but I could be wrong as 343I loves their micro-transaction gimmick. You have my apologies OP that this topic has become a site of conflict, RIP community.

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> Stop complaining. People who have brought the season pass clearly want to play everything 343 has to throw at them. True fans would buy the pass. Those who don’t aren’t dedicated fans. Also what’s wrong with this, we live in a capitalism society, they can do what they want, as long as they are happy and that we think we are happy with the consumer goods. I really don’t see what the deal is other than people complaining as they can’t afford it.

So what… Only people who throw their money blindly at 343i are “true fans”? What are the others? Fake fans? Giving fake money to a fake developer? What about the longtime Halo fans who are disappointed with Halo Wars 2 and the direction of Halo lately? Are they now fake fans too?

I’ve never like this whole “real fan” entitlement. You like to give a ton of money to 343i. That’s nice. Some people don’t, for a myriad of reasons. But that doesn’t make them any less of fans than you.

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> > > I own the season pass but I really hope that all maps will be free… otherwise the PC community is going to split even further
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> > They said already maps will be free
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> Perfect :slight_smile:

They said that about blitz maps. Didn’t say anything about standard.

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> > > > > Stop complaining. People who have brought the season pass clearly want to play everything 343 has to throw at them. True fans would buy the pass. Those who don’t aren’t dedicated fans.
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> > > > Why are you putting out useless “Us vs. Them” ideology? It’s that kind of thing that’s truly “dividing the community.”
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> > > Because we aren’t true fans,didn’t you hear? I’m not paying for a season pass because I’m not interested in it…hopefully there are cutscenes for campaign dlc which I will just watch on youtube …they’re always these ridiculous people who apparently are the only ones who can measure how much of a true or dedicated fan someone is
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> I didn’t mind paying for dlc in previous Halo titles like 3 because it was decent dev made maps,I don’t wanna pay for dlc in newer games because i don’t like 343’s take on the halo franchise and me putting even more money into the pot besides buying the game is wrong

Its not ‘wrong’, that’s just one-sided fact assumption. Just because you don’t like the direction doesn’t mean other people do. I don’t like Halo 5’s campaign as much as the next guy, but are we not even going to acknowledge the fact that they’re getting better, some people think more than others, but its definitely an improvement nonetheless from what we got in the assumed “trash heep” that was everyone says was Halo 4’s multiplayer.

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> > > > > > Stop complaining. People who have brought the season pass clearly want to play everything 343 has to throw at them. True fans would buy the pass. Those who don’t aren’t dedicated fans.
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> > > > > Why are you putting out useless “Us vs. Them” ideology? It’s that kind of thing that’s truly “dividing the community.”
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> > > > Because we aren’t true fans,didn’t you hear? I’m not paying for a season pass because I’m not interested in it…hopefully there are cutscenes for campaign dlc which I will just watch on youtube …they’re always these ridiculous people who apparently are the only ones who can measure how much of a true or dedicated fan someone is
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> > > Well some people dont mind paying for dlc. but I see what both of you mean.
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> > I didn’t mind paying for dlc in previous Halo titles like 3 because it was decent dev made maps,I don’t wanna pay for dlc in newer games because i don’t like 343’s take on the halo franchise and me putting even more money into the pot besides buying the game is wrong
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> Its not ‘wrong’, that’s just one-sided fact assumption. Just because you don’t like the direction doesn’t mean other people do. I don’t like Halo 5’s campaign as much as the next guy, but are we not even going to acknowledge the fact that they’re getting better, some people think more than others, but its definitely an improvement nonetheless from what we got in the assumed “trash heep” that was everyone says was Halo 4’s multiplayer.

Well I’m not as in love with halo 5’s multiplayer as everyone else…the maps for instance imo are terrible no memorable maps at all,spartan charge stabilizers and smart link imo pander to other audiences and don’t fit into halo…I can live with sprint,however I feel they could do away with it and just buff movement speed,and radar definitely needs to be changed to how it was pre halo 5,and call me old fashioned, but I like 1 to 50 ranks and having snipers and other objective gametypes as permanent playlists and not being on a rotation

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> > > > > > > Stop complaining. People who have brought the season pass clearly want to play everything 343 has to throw at them. True fans would buy the pass. Those who don’t aren’t dedicated fans.
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> > > > > > Why are you putting out useless “Us vs. Them” ideology? It’s that kind of thing that’s truly “dividing the community.”
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> > > > > Because we aren’t true fans,didn’t you hear? I’m not paying for a season pass because I’m not interested in it…hopefully there are cutscenes for campaign dlc which I will just watch on youtube …they’re always these ridiculous people who apparently are the only ones who can measure how much of a true or dedicated fan someone is
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> > > > Well some people dont mind paying for dlc. but I see what both of you mean.
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> > > I didn’t mind paying for dlc in previous Halo titles like 3 because it was decent dev made maps,I don’t wanna pay for dlc in newer games because i don’t like 343’s take on the halo franchise and me putting even more money into the pot besides buying the game is wrong
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> > Its not ‘wrong’, that’s just one-sided fact assumption. Just because you don’t like the direction doesn’t mean other people do. I don’t like Halo 5’s campaign as much as the next guy, but are we not even going to acknowledge the fact that they’re getting better, some people think more than others, but its definitely an improvement nonetheless from what we got in the assumed “trash heep” that was everyone says was Halo 4’s multiplayer.
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> Well I’m not as in love with halo 5’s multiplayer as everyone else…the maps for instance imo are terrible no memorable maps at all,spartan charge stabilizers and smart link imo pander to other audiences and don’t fit into halo…I can live with sprint,however I feel they could do away with it and just buff movement speed,and radar definitely needs to be changed to how it was pre halo 5,and call me old fashioned, but I like 1 to 50 ranks and having snipers and other objective gametypes as permanent playlists and not being on a rotation

Wow! That was actually fantastic. You actually stated why you don’t like Halo’s direction instead of telling 343 to go have -Yoink!- with themselves like most others!
Firstly, I tip my hat to you sir.
Secondly, I understand your opinion indefinitely, and I can relate for things like sprint and such, but I can’t be called a true Halo fan on account that I wasn’t around for the craze of Halo 3, and the most I’ve done is complete the campaign on Normal, haha!
My first game was 4, I liked it I guess, Than I played Reach and I was blown away. There were so many things, and details and features in that game that really buffed my experience, and gave me the great group of online friends I get online to play with nearly every day to date! Though I haven’t experienced Halo at its peak and for the reason everyone praises it for, I don’t honestly belong in most of these opinion battles, but only up to recent times, I have realized the fact that its my opinion, and what has come of Halo 5 has betrayed a lot of people, yes, but has also told me that they are at least trying with the time limit and difficult changes that Microsoft has dawned upon them! I know they can make a great game, with a great story, because I have seem them do it with Halo 4! Now stay with me on this! I have seen you a good many times plot-holing my favourite Halo Campaign to date, Halo Wars 2, so I don’t expect you to like Halo 4 all that much, but hear me out! Their intentions are earnest, and all that money they invested into Halo 4 amounted a feeling I can only assume was an attempt to make people happy. It certainly did me, but I can understand those who haven’t, and want them to improve.
I want to say that I support the direction they are going, because I can, to a point, relate to them, even to the point of what I think goes on over there at 343. Artists who want to engage and live up to Bungie’s greatness.
The reason I bought the season’s pass (Albeit, not accompanying the fact that I pre-ordered the game) is because I want to relate, and see it that they can really make something fantastic, and worth the money invested.
A story of fantastic writing, situation, and investment!
A multiplayer that pits even, casual and expert, together in a fun, wide selection of gamemodes (yes, on day one)
A graphical, and arty style that tributes itself to the franchise, while still maintaining an awe-filled look.
AND PLAYABLE FEATURES GODDAMNIT!
It may be terrible to somebody like you, but for me, I can only hope and support the factor that what they make can be fantastic. Than again however, we won’t know that until Halo 6 comes out. Tell you Perseverance, When Halo 6 comes out, I will not purchase the seasons pass, and we will both see how it turns out, and if its bad, than you can come back here and rub it in my face! But if its good!..
Than we sit back and enjoy the game, sound good? :slight_smile:

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> > > > > > > > Stop complaining. People who have brought the season pass clearly want to play everything 343 has to throw at them. True fans would buy the pass. Those who don’t aren’t dedicated fans.
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> > > > > > > Why are you putting out useless “Us vs. Them” ideology? It’s that kind of thing that’s truly “dividing the community.”
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> > > > > > Because we aren’t true fans,didn’t you hear? I’m not paying for a season pass because I’m not interested in it…hopefully there are cutscenes for campaign dlc which I will just watch on youtube …they’re always these ridiculous people who apparently are the only ones who can measure how much of a true or dedicated fan someone is
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> > > > > Well some people dont mind paying for dlc. but I see what both of you mean.
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> > > > I didn’t mind paying for dlc in previous Halo titles like 3 because it was decent dev made maps,I don’t wanna pay for dlc in newer games because i don’t like 343’s take on the halo franchise and me putting even more money into the pot besides buying the game is wrong
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> > > Its not ‘wrong’, that’s just one-sided fact assumption. Just because you don’t like the direction doesn’t mean other people do. I don’t like Halo 5’s campaign as much as the next guy, but are we not even going to acknowledge the fact that they’re getting better, some people think more than others, but its definitely an improvement nonetheless from what we got in the assumed “trash heep” that was everyone says was Halo 4’s multiplayer.
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> > Well I’m not as in love with halo 5’s multiplayer as everyone else…the maps for instance imo are terrible no memorable maps at all,spartan charge stabilizers and smart link imo pander to other audiences and don’t fit into halo…I can live with sprint,however I feel they could do away with it and just buff movement speed,and radar definitely needs to be changed to how it was pre halo 5,and call me old fashioned, but I like 1 to 50 ranks and having snipers and other objective gametypes as permanent playlists and not being on a rotation
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> Wow! That was actually fantastic. You actually stated why you don’t like Halo’s direction instead of telling 343 to go have -Yoink!- with themselves like most others!
> Firstly, I tip my hat to you sir.
> Secondly, I understand your opinion indefinitely, and I can relate for things like sprint and such, but I can’t be called a true Halo fan on account that I wasn’t around for the craze of Halo 3, and the most I’ve done is complete the campaign on Normal, haha!
> My first game was 4, I liked it I guess, Than I played Reach and I was blown away. There were so many things, and details and features in that game that really buffed my experience, and gave me the great group of online friends I get online to play with nearly every day to date! Though I haven’t experienced Halo at its peak and for the reason everyone praises it for, I don’t honestly belong in most of these opinion battles, but only up to recent times, I have realized the fact that its my opinion, and what has come of Halo 5 has betrayed a lot of people, yes, but has also told me that they are at least trying with the time limit and difficult changes that Microsoft has dawned upon them! I know they can make a great game, with a great story, because I have seem them do it with Halo 4! Now stay with me on this! I have seen you a good many times plot-holing my favourite Halo Campaign to date, Halo Wars 2, so I don’t expect you to like Halo 4 all that much, but hear me out! Their intentions are earnest, and all that money they invested into Halo 4 amounted a feeling I can only assume was an attempt to make people happy. It certainly did me, but I can understand those who haven’t, and want them to improve.
> I want to say that I support the direction they are going, because I can, to a point, relate to them, even to the point of what I think goes on over there at 343. Artists who want to engage and live up to Bungie’s greatness.
> The reason I bought the season’s pass (Albeit, not accompanying the fact that I pre-ordered the game) is because I want to relate, and see it that they can really make something fantastic, and worth the money invested.
> A story of fantastic writing, situation, and investment!
> A multiplayer that pits even, casual and expert, together in a fun, wide selection of gamemodes (yes, on day one)
> A graphical, and arty style that tributes itself to the franchise, while still maintaining an awe-filled look.
> AND PLAYABLE FEATURES GODDAMNIT!
> It may be terrible to somebody like you, but for me, I can only hope and support the factor that what they make can be fantastic. Than again however, we won’t know that until Halo 6 comes out. Tell you Perseverance, When Halo 6 comes out, I will not purchase the seasons pass, and we will both see how it turns out, and if its bad, than you can come back here and rub it in my face! But if its good!..
> Than we sit back and enjoy the game, sound good? :slight_smile:

343’s games have always been good games, but not good halo games imo…I know Bungie’s games were slower and had plot holes but they had great campaigns and great multiplayer, not one or the other…if u started with 4 then I can understand why you would like halo games from Reach to now…and I’m not gonna be one of those condescending fans who say your not a true fan just because you didn’t start from the beginning,all I’ll say is that you missed the glory days of halo imo

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> > > > > > > > > Stop complaining. People who have brought the season pass clearly want to play everything 343 has to throw at them. True fans would buy the pass. Those who don’t aren’t dedicated fans.
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> > > > > > > > Why are you putting out useless “Us vs. Them” ideology? It’s that kind of thing that’s truly “dividing the community.”
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> > > > > > > Because we aren’t true fans,didn’t you hear? I’m not paying for a season pass because I’m not interested in it…hopefully there are cutscenes for campaign dlc which I will just watch on youtube …they’re always these ridiculous people who apparently are the only ones who can measure how much of a true or dedicated fan someone is
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> > > > > > Well some people dont mind paying for dlc. but I see what both of you mean.
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> > > > > I didn’t mind paying for dlc in previous Halo titles like 3 because it was decent dev made maps,I don’t wanna pay for dlc in newer games because i don’t like 343’s take on the halo franchise and me putting even more money into the pot besides buying the game is wrong
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> > > > Its not ‘wrong’, that’s just one-sided fact assumption. Just because you don’t like the direction doesn’t mean other people do. I don’t like Halo 5’s campaign as much as the next guy, but are we not even going to acknowledge the fact that they’re getting better, some people think more than others, but its definitely an improvement nonetheless from what we got in the assumed “trash heep” that was everyone says was Halo 4’s multiplayer.
> > >
> > > Well I’m not as in love with halo 5’s multiplayer as everyone else…the maps for instance imo are terrible no memorable maps at all,spartan charge stabilizers and smart link imo pander to other audiences and don’t fit into halo…I can live with sprint,however I feel they could do away with it and just buff movement speed,and radar definitely needs to be changed to how it was pre halo 5,and call me old fashioned, but I like 1 to 50 ranks and having snipers and other objective gametypes as permanent playlists and not being on a rotation
> >
> > Wow! That was actually fantastic. You actually stated why you don’t like Halo’s direction instead of telling 343 to go have -Yoink!- with themselves like most others!
> > Firstly, I tip my hat to you sir.
> > Secondly, I understand your opinion indefinitely, and I can relate for things like sprint and such, but I can’t be called a true Halo fan on account that I wasn’t around for the craze of Halo 3, and the most I’ve done is complete the campaign on Normal, haha!
> > My first game was 4, I liked it I guess, Than I played Reach and I was blown away. There were so many things, and details and features in that game that really buffed my experience, and gave me the great group of online friends I get online to play with nearly every day to date! Though I haven’t experienced Halo at its peak and for the reason everyone praises it for, I don’t honestly belong in most of these opinion battles, but only up to recent times, I have realized the fact that its my opinion, and what has come of Halo 5 has betrayed a lot of people, yes, but has also told me that they are at least trying with the time limit and difficult changes that Microsoft has dawned upon them! I know they can make a great game, with a great story, because I have seem them do it with Halo 4! Now stay with me on this! I have seen you a good many times plot-holing my favourite Halo Campaign to date, Halo Wars 2, so I don’t expect you to like Halo 4 all that much, but hear me out! Their intentions are earnest, and all that money they invested into Halo 4 amounted a feeling I can only assume was an attempt to make people happy. It certainly did me, but I can understand those who haven’t, and want them to improve.
> > I want to say that I support the direction they are going, because I can, to a point, relate to them, even to the point of what I think goes on over there at 343. Artists who want to engage and live up to Bungie’s greatness.
> > The reason I bought the season’s pass (Albeit, not accompanying the fact that I pre-ordered the game) is because I want to relate, and see it that they can really make something fantastic, and worth the money invested.
> > A story of fantastic writing, situation, and investment!
> > A multiplayer that pits even, casual and expert, together in a fun, wide selection of gamemodes (yes, on day one)
> > A graphical, and arty style that tributes itself to the franchise, while still maintaining an awe-filled look.
> > AND PLAYABLE FEATURES GODDAMNIT!
> > It may be terrible to somebody like you, but for me, I can only hope and support the factor that what they make can be fantastic. Than again however, we won’t know that until Halo 6 comes out. Tell you Perseverance, When Halo 6 comes out, I will not purchase the seasons pass, and we will both see how it turns out, and if its bad, than you can come back here and rub it in my face! But if its good!..
> > Than we sit back and enjoy the game, sound good? :slight_smile:
>
> 343’s games have always been good games, but not good halo games imo…I know Bungie’s games were slower and had plot holes but they had great campaigns and great multiplayer, not one or the other…if u started with 4 then I can understand why you would like halo games from Reach to now…and I’m not gonna be one of those condescending fans who say your not a true fan just because you didn’t start from the beginning,all I’ll say is that you missed the glory days of halo imo

I did! I totally did, and I regret it every day my buddy tells me how amazing it was when Bungie held the keys! Thank you for understanding! :>

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> > > > > > > > > > Stop complaining. People who have brought the season pass clearly want to play everything 343 has to throw at them. True fans would buy the pass. Those who don’t aren’t dedicated fans.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why are you putting out useless “Us vs. Them” ideology? It’s that kind of thing that’s truly “dividing the community.”
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Because we aren’t true fans,didn’t you hear? I’m not paying for a season pass because I’m not interested in it…hopefully there are cutscenes for campaign dlc which I will just watch on youtube …they’re always these ridiculous people who apparently are the only ones who can measure how much of a true or dedicated fan someone is
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> > > > > > > Well some people dont mind paying for dlc. but I see what both of you mean.
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> > > > > > I didn’t mind paying for dlc in previous Halo titles like 3 because it was decent dev made maps,I don’t wanna pay for dlc in newer games because i don’t like 343’s take on the halo franchise and me putting even more money into the pot besides buying the game is wrong
> > > > >
> > > > > Its not ‘wrong’, that’s just one-sided fact assumption. Just because you don’t like the direction doesn’t mean other people do. I don’t like Halo 5’s campaign as much as the next guy, but are we not even going to acknowledge the fact that they’re getting better, some people think more than others, but its definitely an improvement nonetheless from what we got in the assumed “trash heep” that was everyone says was Halo 4’s multiplayer.
> > > >
> > > > Well I’m not as in love with halo 5’s multiplayer as everyone else…the maps for instance imo are terrible no memorable maps at all,spartan charge stabilizers and smart link imo pander to other audiences and don’t fit into halo…I can live with sprint,however I feel they could do away with it and just buff movement speed,and radar definitely needs to be changed to how it was pre halo 5,and call me old fashioned, but I like 1 to 50 ranks and having snipers and other objective gametypes as permanent playlists and not being on a rotation
> > >
> > > Wow! That was actually fantastic. You actually stated why you don’t like Halo’s direction instead of telling 343 to go have -Yoink!- with themselves like most others!
> > > Firstly, I tip my hat to you sir.
> > > Secondly, I understand your opinion indefinitely, and I can relate for things like sprint and such, but I can’t be called a true Halo fan on account that I wasn’t around for the craze of Halo 3, and the most I’ve done is complete the campaign on Normal, haha!
> > > My first game was 4, I liked it I guess, Than I played Reach and I was blown away. There were so many things, and details and features in that game that really buffed my experience, and gave me the great group of online friends I get online to play with nearly every day to date! Though I haven’t experienced Halo at its peak and for the reason everyone praises it for, I don’t honestly belong in most of these opinion battles, but only up to recent times, I have realized the fact that its my opinion, and what has come of Halo 5 has betrayed a lot of people, yes, but has also told me that they are at least trying with the time limit and difficult changes that Microsoft has dawned upon them! I know they can make a great game, with a great story, because I have seem them do it with Halo 4! Now stay with me on this! I have seen you a good many times plot-holing my favourite Halo Campaign to date, Halo Wars 2, so I don’t expect you to like Halo 4 all that much, but hear me out! Their intentions are earnest, and all that money they invested into Halo 4 amounted a feeling I can only assume was an attempt to make people happy. It certainly did me, but I can understand those who haven’t, and want them to improve.
> > > I want to say that I support the direction they are going, because I can, to a point, relate to them, even to the point of what I think goes on over there at 343. Artists who want to engage and live up to Bungie’s greatness.
> > > The reason I bought the season’s pass (Albeit, not accompanying the fact that I pre-ordered the game) is because I want to relate, and see it that they can really make something fantastic, and worth the money invested.
> > > A story of fantastic writing, situation, and investment!
> > > A multiplayer that pits even, casual and expert, together in a fun, wide selection of gamemodes (yes, on day one)
> > > A graphical, and arty style that tributes itself to the franchise, while still maintaining an awe-filled look.
> > > AND PLAYABLE FEATURES GODDAMNIT!
> > > It may be terrible to somebody like you, but for me, I can only hope and support the factor that what they make can be fantastic. Than again however, we won’t know that until Halo 6 comes out. Tell you Perseverance, When Halo 6 comes out, I will not purchase the seasons pass, and we will both see how it turns out, and if its bad, than you can come back here and rub it in my face! But if its good!..
> > > Than we sit back and enjoy the game, sound good? :slight_smile:
> >
> > 343’s games have always been good games, but not good halo games imo…I know Bungie’s games were slower and had plot holes but they had great campaigns and great multiplayer, not one or the other…if u started with 4 then I can understand why you would like halo games from Reach to now…and I’m not gonna be one of those condescending fans who say your not a true fan just because you didn’t start from the beginning,all I’ll say is that you missed the glory days of halo imo
>
> I did! I totally did, and I regret it every day my buddy tells me how amazing it was when Bungie held the keys! Thank you for understanding! :>

I’m telling you go watch some old school MLG clips on youtube from halo 3 days,when hitting people was harder and maps were better

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> True fans would buy the pass.

What about a True Scotsman?