I mean if its only on waypoint isnt it exactly the same thing as BPR except 1-50? So why not just keep BPR.
Because people like it when a number system only goes up to 50?
I think it’s because the BPR system wasn’t very accurate. It gave almost everyone 100’s.
Except, you know, its a lot better than bpr
Halo 2/3 fans who won’t let go of the past insist on dragging future games down with them so 343 was forced to give them what they wanted.
Even when 343 puts the CSR system in place they’ll still complain. There is no pleasing them, only time will change their tunes.
By the time Halo 6 comes out Halo 4 will be deemed to be a classic and they will then demand that Halo 6 goes back it its Halo 4 roots.
> Halo 2/3 fans who won’t let go of the past insist on dragging future games down with them so 343 was forced to give them what they wanted.
>
> Even when 343 puts the CSR system in place they’ll still complain. There is no pleasing them, only time will change their tunes.
>
> By the time Halo 6 comes out Halo 4 will be deemed to be a classic and they will then demand that Halo 6 goes back it its Halo 4 roots.
No.
> > Halo 2/3 fans who won’t let go of the past insist on dragging future games down with them so 343 was forced to give them what they wanted.
> >
> > Even when 343 puts the CSR system in place they’ll still complain. There is no pleasing them, only time will change their tunes.
> >
> > By the time Halo 6 comes out Halo 4 will be deemed to be a classic and they will then demand that Halo 6 goes back it its Halo 4 roots.
>
> No.
Care to be more specific?
Everyone HATED Halo 2 but now it’s considered to be one of the best games in the series, Halo 3 didn’t exactly get a warm welcome either yet now it’s suddenly the best game ever made and all Halos should be just like it.
The 1-50 ranking system was flawed, nothing quite like winning six games of team slayer in a row without advancing in rank only to loose one match and be demoted in an instant. Before you say anything, no I did not reach 50 in Halo 3 but I did get to 45 before that dusty relic was abandoned for greener pastures.
The CSR will be sufficient and I look forward to advancing through it.
I agree with xCrimsonLegendx. I bet when Halo 2 was on Xbox LIVE people complained about how it sucked in comparison to Halo CE. “I can’t believe they added duel wielding into this game! The energy sword is so overpowered! Bungie has ruined Halo!”
> I mean if its only on waypoint isnt it exactly the same thing as BPR except 1-50? So why not just keep BPR.
It’s on Waypoint for now. 343i said once they fix bugs/exploits of the CSR, then they’ll release it in-game. So think of it as a Beta ranking system.
> Care to be more specific?
>
> Everyone HATED Halo 2 but now it’s considered to be one of the best games in the series, Halo 3 didn’t exactly get a warm welcome either yet now it’s suddenly the best game ever made and all Halos should be just like it.
Actually, a majority of people loved both titles from the get-go. Halo 2 revolutionized MLG and Halo 3 was a game changer that maintained a huge player base consistently for a year. Of course a number of people complained, but not to the extent we’re seeing in Halo 4.
> The 1-50 ranking system was flawed, nothing quite like winning six games of team slayer in a row without advancing in rank only to loose one match and be demoted in an instant. Before you say anything, no I did not reach 50 in Halo 3 but I did get to 45 before that dusty relic was abandoned for greener pastures.
They would update the ranking system if it were reintroduced. It’s not like they’d copy and paste it from Halo 3.
> The CSR will be sufficient and I look forward to advancing through it.
I do,too. I just don’t want to to be exclusive on Waypoint. I would like to be able to view it on my service record.
Its in cus everyone and there brother moaned and wined that it was not in reach.
Sigh…
For all those people saying that Halo 2 was hated when it came out, I got a completely different impression. I was part on the 2004 Christmas boom and I will tell you, I have never played anything so addictive. On original Xbox live you didn’t have party chats, most people were eager to talk, you made friends easy. Halo 2 was just a very intimate player experience.
The only complaints I really remember around the time about purposeful game changes were the magnum nerf, severe PP homing and taking out the AR.
As far as glitches, Halo 2 had quite a few. BXR was a pain in the -Yoink-, though many competitive capitalized on it and became a staple of their gameplay. Sword cancel made for some interesting exploration to get outside maps.
Now, since Halo 2 was the first of the series to be on live, let alone very early in xbox lives existence, there were SEVERE cases of modding and network manipulation. Once you got into 30’s of ranked games, modders and stand-by cases were everywhere, but we still played because it was fun.
My case on rank? I say why not show some love to the competitive. For one rank gives incentive to WIN not for K/D. Sure, there are a few that will try to exploit it, but that hasn’t stopped it before. If you’re going to implement some sort of rank though… do it in game.
My main beef with Halo 4 is the lack of player intimacy. You can’t talk to the enemy team in pregame and there’s no proximity voice, which really made for some good laughs or some heated competition.
To wrap things up, Halo has come a long way. Every Halo has had some flaws, some more than others. I know Halo 4 has the potential to really shine, it’s just gonna take some time because 343 is taking command of a BIG ship. We as a community will always have differing opinions, but we have one thing in common.
A love for Halo.
> Halo 2/3 fans who won’t let go of the past insist on dragging future games down with them so 343 was forced to give them what they wanted.
>
> Even when 343 puts the CSR system in place they’ll still complain. There is no pleasing them, only time will change their tunes.
>
> By the time Halo 6 comes out Halo 4 will be deemed to be a classic and they will then demand that Halo 6 goes back it its Halo 4 roots.
I think its the sheeple that agree 100% with every change, and have no constructive criticism are the people that a dragging future games down.
Its sad that with today’s technology games are becoming more simplified, generic, and mainstream to attract the casual audience.
As Mass Effect progressed it became more of an action game straying away from its RPG elements.
Resident Evil is an action game, and no longer a Survival Horror game.
Ghost Recon and Medal of Honor are trying to copy CoD and attract their audience, and failing miserably I might add.
Halo’s doing the exact same thing, Simplifying mechanics, making everybody a winner, no matter how good or bad they do they rank up and unlock pointless armor. Adding gimmicks like needing a perk to “resupply” grenades, devolving custom game options. We cant even play 1 flag CTF anymore its just the same generic 2 flag CTF on every other game.
I bet you love all these changes, and don’t see a problem with them. I don’t mind a progressive system and unlocks, I just want a real rank system by its side. I don’t think it should completely replace a skill based system.
Ranks are now essential to the longevity of a competitive game, even CoD a game played by everybody has finally got with the times and implemented a rank system. And you think the addition of ranks are bringing the future of gaming down?
Thank God Bethesda can still make a good RPG, or all RPG’s would turn out like Fable. A mindless game that makes decisions for you, for people who cant think for themselves, that’s the future of gaming. That’s why games are being “dragged down” it’s to appeal to the people who aren’t really gamers.
> Halo 2/3 fans who won’t let go of the past insist on dragging future games down with them so 343 was forced to give them what they wanted.
>
> Even when 343 puts the CSR system in place they’ll still complain. There is no pleasing them, only time will change their tunes.
>
> By the time Halo 6 comes out Halo 4 will be deemed to be a classic and they will then demand that Halo 6 goes back it its Halo 4 roots.
lol no one will be playing halo 6 let alone 5. We will be playing Bungie’s Destiny-Bungie, who may may I remind you, created Halo. And of course people will complain about the CSR its not a real ranking system its just a joke.
> > > Halo 2/3 fans who won’t let go of the past insist on dragging future games down with them so 343 was forced to give them what they wanted.
> > >
> > > Even when 343 puts the CSR system in place they’ll still complain. There is no pleasing them, only time will change their tunes.
> > >
> > > By the time Halo 6 comes out Halo 4 will be deemed to be a classic and they will then demand that Halo 6 goes back it its Halo 4 roots.
> >
> > No.
>
> Care to be more specific?
>
> Everyone HATED Halo 2 but now it’s considered to be one of the best games in the series, Halo 3 didn’t exactly get a warm welcome either yet now it’s suddenly the best game ever made and all Halos should be just like it.
>
> The 1-50 ranking system was flawed, nothing quite like winning six games of team slayer in a row without advancing in rank only to loose one match and be demoted in an instant. Before you say anything, no I did not reach 50 in Halo 3 but I did get to 45 before that dusty relic was abandoned for greener pastures.
>
> The CSR will be sufficient and I look forward to advancing through it.
Hey man speak for yourself okay?
I loved Halo 2.
> Halo 2/3 fans who won’t let go of the past insist on dragging future games down with them so 343 was forced to give them what they wanted.
>
> Even when 343 puts the CSR system in place they’ll still complain. There is no pleasing them, only time will change their tunes.
>
> By the time Halo 6 comes out Halo 4 will be deemed to be a classic and they will then demand that Halo 6 goes back it its Halo 4 roots.
lol well if 5 and six keep changing basics like descoping or adding things like dropping rockets from ordinance all the trilogy fans will be gone. Only those that started at reach and 4 will be left and will then get the joy of going through what trilogy fans had the pleasure of enduring.
> > > > Halo 2/3 fans who won’t let go of the past insist on dragging future games down with them so 343 was forced to give them what they wanted.
> > > >
> > > > Even when 343 puts the CSR system in place they’ll still complain. There is no pleasing them, only time will change their tunes.
> > > >
> > > > By the time Halo 6 comes out Halo 4 will be deemed to be a classic and they will then demand that Halo 6 goes back it its Halo 4 roots.
> > >
> > > No.
> >
> > Care to be more specific?
> >
> > Everyone HATED Halo 2 but now it’s considered to be one of the best games in the series, Halo 3 didn’t exactly get a warm welcome either yet now it’s suddenly the best game ever made and all Halos should be just like it.
> >
> > The 1-50 ranking system was flawed, nothing quite like winning six games of team slayer in a row without advancing in rank only to loose one match and be demoted in an instant. Before you say anything, no I did not reach 50 in Halo 3 but I did get to 45 before that dusty relic was abandoned for greener pastures.
> >
> > The CSR will be sufficient and I look forward to advancing through it.
>
> Hey man speak for yourself okay?
> I loved Halo 2.
Halo 2 was poop compared to CE bro
but heck even being surrounded by poop H2 is more desired that being stuck in toxic waste l0lreach.
at above, a 45…like a B student calling the ABCDF system flawed ROFLMAO
OT-1-50 is needed. Dont like it? just play social.
> Sigh…
>
> For all those people saying that Halo 2 was hated when it came out, I got a completely different impression. I was part on the 2004 Christmas boom and I will tell you, I have never played anything so addictive. On original Xbox live you didn’t have party chats, most people were eager to talk, you made friends easy. Halo 2 was just a very intimate player experience.
>
> The only complaints I really remember around the time about purposeful game changes were the magnum nerf, severe PP homing and taking out the AR.
>
> As far as glitches, Halo 2 had quite a few. BXR was a pain in the -Yoink!-, though many competitive capitalized on it and became a staple of their gameplay. Sword cancel made for some interesting exploration to get outside maps.
>
> Now, since Halo 2 was the first of the series to be on live, let alone very early in xbox lives existence, there were SEVERE cases of modding and network manipulation. Once you got into 30’s of ranked games, modders and stand-by cases were everywhere, but we still played because it was fun.
>
> My case on rank? I say why not show some love to the competitive. For one rank gives incentive to WIN not for K/D. Sure, there are a few that will try to exploit it, but that hasn’t stopped it before. If you’re going to implement some sort of rank though… do it in game.
>
> My main beef with Halo 4 is the lack of player intimacy. You can’t talk to the enemy team in pregame and there’s no proximity voice, which really made for some good laughs or some heated competition.
>
> To wrap things up, Halo has come a long way. Every Halo has had some flaws, some more than others. I know Halo 4 has the potential to really shine, it’s just gonna take some time because 343 is taking command of a BIG ship. We as a community will always have differing opinions, but we have one thing in common.
>
> A love for Halo.
the whole truth and nothing but the truth, sad that most people wont take this with an open mind and read it with the ignorance of a child
> Halo 2/3 fans who won’t let go of the past insist on dragging future games down with them so 343 was forced to give them what they wanted.
>
> Even when 343 puts the CSR system in place they’ll still complain. There is no pleasing them, only time will change their tunes.
>
> By the time Halo 6 comes out Halo 4 will be deemed to be a classic and they will then demand that Halo 6 goes back it its Halo 4 roots.
lol what an ignorant generalization
I’m a Halo 2 and Halo 3 fan. I’m content with Halo 4, but would really appreciate it if 343i could attract and cater to both the casuals and the competitive hardcore / MLG. A classic / competitive playlist (with Slayer / Oddball / CTF / KOTH gametypes) with no loadouts, no AAs, no personal ordinance, etc. with only BRs and Magnums would please the competitive hardcore / MLG without disrupting or taking away from the newly evolved Halo 4 experience that most casuals enjoy from the other playlists.
It’s possible to please both groups of people. Halo 3 was headed in the right direction. Reach didn’t really respect the competitive scene, and Halo 4 totally disregards it, so far. However, I have faith in 343i because this is only its second game. If CSR functioned like the Halo 3 1-50 system, but only on Waypoint, then it would AT LEAST be a step in the right direction.
Enough of the ignorance. Grow up and learn to understand other peoples’ points of view, even if it disagrees with your own.
Have faith in 343i. They are the best game developers on the planet