What's still wrong with Halo 4...

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  1. Lag/latency
    Its horrible, please alleviate the problem somehow

2)LR is now a pocket sniper
It was fine before the update, could have used a very tiny increase ROF but that was it.

  1. 110% movement speed is not necessary

  2. Where are the scorpions? Why even bother having a commendation if you can’t complete it?

  3. SAW is too OP in CQC. Was fine before, you could either outclass someone or maybe get away. Now you’re just dead…

6)Boltshot
Should only take away shields with its overcharge, do this and its fine!

7)Camo
Should be like Reach where it jams your radar with RED dots, not light blue…

8)Crawler Snipers
I don’t think anyone really wants to spend 20+ hrs grinding this commendation, I’d like to see this commendation reduced.

9)Stickies and PP’s in loadouts.
Panic sticks and EMP is annoying, just have these on map, and we’re good to go

  1. Map weapons. Why aren’t there any in BTB?
    Slayer pro would be so much more enjoyable with on map PP and stickies, but not in loadouts.

  2. Slayer Pro
    Sucks, need map weapons and a radar and then I’m happy to play it. Having ghosts just run you over on Complex is annyoing, especially when you attmept to jump over it, but since you don’t have radar, you don’t know exactly where it is…

Thats it, post feedback if you agree/disagree with anything I’ve mentioned

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Yes, fix the lag please, especially when playing splitscreen.

Light Rifle feels great to me.

110% movement speed increase the utility of strafing and increases the range of Thruster Pack, both of which are welcome in my book.

Bring back scorpions please.

SAW does feel powerful, but it is a power weapon as well.

Boltshot is fine, though removing it from loadouts and putting it on the map would be better.

Camo should be a powerup that can be picked up from the map like Overshield and not an armor ability.

I don’t really grind on commendations, so I can’t comment on the crawler snipers commendation.

Agreed with stickies and plasma pistol on map instead of loadouts.

Can’t comment on the last two, as I mostly play Rumble Pit.

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> 1) Lag/latency
> Its horrible, please alleviate the problem somehow
> Nothing they can do. All you can do is make sure your connection is optimal.
> 2)LR is now a pocket sniper
> It was fine before the update, could have used a very tiny increase ROF but that was it.
> The ROF was to further it’s role as a special long ranged weapon.
> 3) 110% movement speed is not necessary
> It makes strafing viable. I think thats necessary.
> 4) Where are the scorpions? Why even bother having a commendation if you can’t complete it?
> Agree.
> 5) SAW is too OP in CQC. Was fine before, you could either outclass someone or maybe get away. Now you’re just dead…
> Good. Its a power weapon. It was easily outshot beforehand even by the AR. Stay mid range and you’ll do fine.
> 6)Boltshot
> Should only take away shields with its overcharge, do this and its fine!
> No reason to pick it over the PP then.
> 7)Camo
> Should be like Reach where it jams your radar with RED dots, not light blue…
> Camo should be made a scouting tool not a camping tool.
> 8)Crawler Snipers
> I don’t think anyone really wants to spend 20+ hrs grinding this commendation, I’d like to see this commendation reduced.
> Nope.
> 9)Stickies and PP’s in loadouts.
> Panic sticks and EMP is annoying, just have these on map, and we’re good to go
> Sure for a classic playlist. But not applied to all playlists.
> 10) Map weapons. Why aren’t there any in BTB?
> Slayer pro would be so much more enjoyable with on map PP and stickies, but not in loadouts.
> There are power weapons on BTB maps.
> 11) Slayer Pro
> Sucks, need map weapons and a radar and then I’m happy to play it. Having ghosts just run you over on Complex is annyoing, especially when you attmept to jump over it, but since you don’t have radar, you don’t know exactly where it is…
> I dislike no radar. But that is what pro is about.
> Thats it, post feedback if you agree/disagree with anything I’ve mentioned

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> 1) Lag/latency
> Its horrible, please alleviate the problem somehow
>
> Probably your connection.
>
> 2)LR is now a pocket sniper
> It was fine before the update, could have used a very tiny increase ROF but that was it.
>
> I was worried about this going in but after playing a bunch today I think its fine. Trust me a DMR can still beat it. Positioning, maneuvering, and aim
>
> 3) 110% movement speed is not necessary
>
> Makes strafing more viable.
>
> 4) Where are the scorpions? Why even bother having a commendation if you can’t complete it?
>
> I agree. Taking out the Scorpion for the Mantis on Exile was unnecessary.
>
> 5) SAW is too OP in CQC. Was fine before, you could either outclass someone or maybe get away. Now you’re just dead…
>
> First, its a power weapon. Second, it was double the AR’s power before the update and its double the AR with it.
>
> 6)Boltshot
> Should only take away shields with its overcharge, do this and its fine!
>
> No because its not much different than the Plasma Pistol. I say make it similar to the H3 Mauler where it rips shields and does a massive amount of health damage just short of death if they are at full shields. If they’re at 75% have the Boltshot kill them.
>
> 7)Camo
> Should be like Reach where it jams your radar with RED dots, not light blue…
>
> No its pretty powerful as is.
>
> 8)Crawler Snipers
> I don’t think anyone really wants to spend 20+ hrs grinding this commendation, I’d like to see this commendation reduced.
>
> Ok?
>
> 9)Stickies and PP’s in loadouts.
> Panic sticks and EMP is annoying, just have these on map, and we’re good to go
>
> No. Just reduce the amount of Plasma Grenades in loadouts to one and it will be fine.
>
> 10) Map weapons. Why aren’t there any in BTB?
> Slayer pro would be so much more enjoyable with on map PP and stickies, but not in loadouts.
>
> There are map stickies and the Carbine loadout has a PP.
>
> 11) Slayer Pro
> Sucks, need map weapons and a radar and then I’m happy to play it. Having ghosts just run you over on Complex is annyoing, especially when you attmept to jump over it, but since you don’t have radar, you don’t know exactly where it is…
>
> It’s Slayer Pro and it has always been without radar.
>
> Thats it, post feedback if you agree/disagree with anything I’ve mentioned

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> 1) Lag/latency
> It’s horrible, please alleviate the problem somehow.

I don’t have too much of an issue with connection.
Occasionally, I’ll get a lag spike, but that’s mostly it.

> 2) LR is now a pocket sniper.
> It was fine before the update, could have used a very tiny increased ROF, but that was it.

I disagree.
I love the LR now, it feels just as it should.

> 3) 110% movement speed is not necessary.

I heavily disagree.
The speed increase does wonders for this game.
I wasn’t asking for it, but I’m glad I got it.

> 4) Where are the Scorpions? Why even bother having a Commendation if you can’t complete it?

I noticed this as well.
They’ll do something about it eventually.

> 5) SAW is too OP in CQC. Was fine before, you could either outclass someone or maybe get away. Now you’re just dead…

Well, this is the case for many power weapons.
Now the SAW is just classified as a heavy threat weapon, like the Rocket Launcher.

> 6) Boltshot should only take away shields with its overcharge, do this and it’s fine!

I disagree.
Boltshot should be an ordnance weapon, but that’s not going to happen.
And it’s unlikely that 343 would nerf it a second time.
So I suggest that everyone simply adjust, as it’s not all that bad.

> 7) Camo should be like Reach where it jams your radar with RED dots, not light blue…

That would make it more powerful than it already is.
Believe it or not, the radar jamming effect is to help others find the camo’d player.
Not make it harder to find him.

> 8) Crawler Snipers…
> I don’t think anyone really wants to spend 20+ hours grinding this Commendation.
> I’d like to see this commendation reduced.

Agreed.

> 9) Stickies and PP’s in loadouts.
> Panic sticks and EMP is annoying, just have these on map, and we’re good to go

I think they should just nerf both weapons.

> 10) Map weapons. Why aren’t there any in BTB?
> Slayer pro would be so much more enjoyable with on map PP and stickies, but not in loadouts.

There are plenty of ordnance weapons in BTB now, after J3U.

> 11) Slayer Pro
> Sucks, need map weapons and a radar and then I’m happy to play it. Having ghosts just run you over on Complex is annoying, especially when you attempt to jump over it, but since you don’t have radar, you don’t know exactly where it is…

I’ll agree that it definitely needs Motion Sensor.

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Highly controversial opinions here -
How to really improve Halo 4 :

Remove the DMR , aka ’ Bungies Bane ’ . Or , at least completely from a lot of playlists . Or , have it only spawn on map and not a selectable load out .

Do similarly with the Plasma Pistol and plasma grenades : Not the absolute removal I feel the DMR warrants , but definitely from load outs .

Heartedly remove Auto Aim and Bullet Magnetism ( at least in ranked settings )

Buff the damage vechicles can take by 25% .

Anyone who was in love with Halo when it reigned supreme pre- Reach and 4 shouldn’t need to ask for much more of a detailed explanation .

ALTHOUGH … I think a lot of what’s needed , or at least what we mostly want , just isn’t applicable anymore as Halo 4 pushes the 360s technical capacities to their limits , especially the RAM , which is why we’re all seeing a lot of Laggy games .

As a final thought : And I really hope a member of 343 sees this - This update is SUCH a commendable step in the right direction !

Had this been Halo 4 from Launch day , and with the division of Ranked and Social ( where I feel ordinance / load outs / infinity slayer gimmicks : perks etc belong ) then Halo 4 would have held far more online clout in my opinion .

I’ve more faith in you for Halo 5 now most definitely .

Halo Combat Evolved , not DMR’Lo Ordinance Involved !

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> 1) Lag/latency
> Its horrible, please alleviate the problem somehow
>
> <mark>No idea, sorry!</mark>
>
> 2)LR is now a pocket sniper
> It was fine before the update, could have used a very tiny increase ROF but that was it.
>
> <mark>Todays LR is yesterdays DMR…the circle of life continues…let the nerf threads commence.</mark>
>
> 3) 110% movement speed is not necessary
>
> <mark>I don’t see the need for the increase. However, I can live with it.</mark>
>
> 4) Where are the scorpions? Why even bother having a commendation if you can’t complete it?
>
> <mark>I’m lucky on that score, however, the Wraith is another matter! I’d like a Scorpion or two on regular maps, not just DLC.</mark>
>
> 5) SAW is too OP in CQC. Was fine before, you could either outclass someone or maybe get away. Now you’re just dead…
>
> <mark>Mastered that a while back. I love the new SAW combined with Damage Boost…nuff said.</mark>
>
> 6)Boltshot
> Should only take away shields with its overcharge, do this and its fine!
>
> <mark>I’m OK with that. Charged shot to strip shields and then the BS will only fire all those Yoink weak individual shots to finish off the victim. However, that would be unfair for those who have yet to Master it, no different from your Scorpion commendation (kind of)…it would not be fair for those to complete it with essentially a fully redesigned weapon. If the BS is to return in future Halos, the redesigned one would be preferred.However, for this Halo, it should remain as is.</mark>
>
> 7)Camo
> Should be like Reach where it jams your radar with RED dots, not light blue…
>
> <mark>Meh.</mark>
>
> 8)Crawler Snipers
> I don’t think anyone really wants to spend 20+ hrs grinding this commendation, I’d like to see this commendation reduced.
>
> <mark>…</mark>
>
> 9)Stickies and PP’s in loadouts.
> Panic sticks and EMP is annoying, just have these on map, and we’re good to go
>
> <mark>No.</mark>
> <mark>Increase the health of vehicles would be much better. Make it that it takes two or three PP shots to Yoink a vehicle. Make it that it takes three or four PG to destroy a vehicle. Remember, these are commendations for these two as well,or,you only care about the Scorpion?</mark>
>
> 10) Map weapons. Why aren’t there any in BTB?
> Slayer pro would be so much more enjoyable with on map PP and stickies, but not in loadouts.
>
> <mark>No.</mark>
> <mark>PP/PG do not belong in Pro. They are fine in Infinity though.</mark>
>
> 11) Slayer Pro
> Sucks, need map weapons and a radar and then I’m happy to play it. Having ghosts just run you over on Complex is annyoing, especially when you attmept to jump over it, but since you don’t have radar, you don’t know exactly where it is…
>
> <mark>You know, at first I wanted to have a Radar but,I’m already used to it.I just had to adjust my play style for when I play Pro versions…its kinda fun, really.</mark>
>
> Thats it, post feedback if you agree/disagree with anything I’ve mentioned

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Slayer Pro with radar…
So, not Slayer Pro. :stuck_out_tongue:

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> Highly controversial opinions here -
> How to really improve Halo 4 :
>
> Remove the DMR , aka ’ Bungies Bane ’ . Or , at least completely from a lot of playlists . Or , have it only spawn on map and not a selectable load out .
>
> No.
>
> Do similarly with the Plasma Pistol and plasma grenades : Not the absolute removal I feel the DMR warrants , but definitely from load outs .
>
> No. Just reduce the number of Plasma Grenades in loadouts to one and wouldn’t be an issue.
>
> Heartedly remove Auto Aim and Bullet Magnetism ( at least in ranked settings )
>
> No. Plus I bet you can’t name me a Halo game that didn’t have them. .
>
> Buff the damage vechicles can take by 25% .
>
> Warthog, yes. Everything else, no

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Just to clarify 2 things here, when talking about camo, I meant that the camo user has THEIR radar jammed, but no one else. Everyone else would see light blue dots maybe?

That would mean that you are near invisible, but cannot really use your radar too well, which seems a fair compromise.

Also, my connection is one of the best you can get in Australia, I understand that distance will always meaan some latency, but my point is, when I play Reach or even Halo 3, the really bad lag is much much less frequent than compared to Halo 4…

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110% speed plus sprint is too much. I get hit with about 20 melee attacks a game on smaller maps.

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> Slayer Pro without radar…
> So, not Slayer Pro. :stuck_out_tongue:

haha guess so, what I mean is good old BTB slayer seeting like in 3 and Reach.

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> 110% speed plus sprint is too much. I get hit with about 20 melee attacks a game on smaller maps.

You realize you move faster too, right? Maybe you should try moving around?

Also, Slayer Pro has never had radar. Ever. Slayer Pro isn’t Slayer Pro w/ a radar… It’s Slayer.

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> > Slayer Pro without radar…
> > So, not Slayer Pro. :stuck_out_tongue:
>
> haha guess so, what I mean is good old BTB slayer seeting like in 3 and Reach.

I just noticed my FAIL.
I meant “Slayer Pro WITH radar”. xD

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> 2)LR is now a pocket sniper
> It was fine before the update, could have used a very tiny increase ROF but that was it.
>
> 4) Where are the scorpions? Why even bother having a commendation if you can’t complete it?

Okay, they made the LR equivalent to the DMR so they’re both pocket snipers.

And trying to get commendations to unlock something you want is just annoying in general.

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> Yes, fix the lag please, especially when playing splitscreen.
>
> Light Rifle feels great to me.
>
> 110% movement speed increase the utility of strafing and increases the range of Thruster Pack, both of which are welcome in my book.
>
> Bring back scorpions please.
>
> SAW does feel powerful, but it is a power weapon as well.
>
> Boltshot is fine, though removing it from loadouts and putting it on the map would be better.
>
> Camo should be a powerup that can be picked up from the map like Overshield and not an armor ability.
>
> I don’t really grind on commendations, so I can’t comment on the crawler snipers commendation.
>
> Agreed with stickies and plasma pistol on map instead of loadouts.
>
> Can’t comment on the last two, as I mostly play Rumble Pit.

Camo wouldnt be as big a problem if people could move with it. If anything they should make it more like the Arbiters camo in halo 2 even though this would seem to only help the camo people, it would encourage us to move and use it in a less campy way thus helping your problem, got to see why we camp with it in halo 3 no one overly camped with it

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> > Highly controversial opinions here -
> > How to really improve Halo 4 :
> >
> > Remove the DMR , aka ’ Bungies Bane ’ . Or , at least completely from a lot of playlists . Or , have it only spawn on map and not a selectable load out .
> >
> > No.
> >
> > Do similarly with the Plasma Pistol and plasma grenades : Not the absolute removal I feel the DMR warrants , but definitely from load outs .
> >
> > No. Just reduce the number of Plasma Grenades in loadouts to one and wouldn’t be an issue.
> >
> > Heartedly remove Auto Aim and Bullet Magnetism ( at least in ranked settings )
> >
> > No. Plus I bet you can’t name me a Halo game that didn’t have them. .
> >
> > Buff the damage vechicles can take by 25% .
> >
> > Warthog, yes. Everything else, no

I agree with your response except on the PP that needs to go from loadouts and be a pick up again

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Focus on what is right and you will have a better time.

The camera on Mario 64 is messed up in certain instances…

It is still a legendary game…

Odd Job is OP in Goldeneye MP.

I love Goldeneye N64…

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> > 1) Lag/latency
> > Its horrible, please alleviate the problem somehow
> > Nothing they can do. All you can do is make sure your connection is optimal.
> > 2)LR is now a pocket sniper
> > It was fine before the update, could have used a very tiny increase ROF but that was it.
> > The ROF was to further it’s role as a special long ranged weapon.
> > 3) 110% movement speed is not necessary
> > It makes strafing viable. I think thats necessary.
> > 4) Where are the scorpions? Why even bother having a commendation if you can’t complete it?
> > Agree.
> > 5) SAW is too OP in CQC. Was fine before, you could either outclass someone or maybe get away. Now you’re just dead…
> > Good. Its a power weapon. It was easily outshot beforehand even by the AR. Stay mid range and you’ll do fine.
> > 6)Boltshot
> > Should only take away shields with its overcharge, do this and its fine!
> > No reason to pick it over the PP then.
> > 7)Camo
> > Should be like Reach where it jams your radar with RED dots, not light blue…
> > Camo should be made a scouting tool not a camping tool.
> > 8)Crawler Snipers
> > I don’t think anyone really wants to spend 20+ hrs grinding this commendation, I’d like to see this commendation reduced.
> > Nope.
> > 9)Stickies and PP’s in loadouts.
> > Panic sticks and EMP is annoying, just have these on map, and we’re good to go
> > Sure for a classic playlist. But not applied to all playlists.
> > 10) Map weapons. Why aren’t there any in BTB?
> > Slayer pro would be so much more enjoyable with on map PP and stickies, but not in loadouts.
> > There are power weapons on BTB maps.
> > 11) Slayer Pro
> > Sucks, need map weapons and a radar and then I’m happy to play it. Having ghosts just run you over on Complex is annyoing, especially when you attmept to jump over it, but since you don’t have radar, you don’t know exactly where it is…
> > I dislike no radar. But that is what pro is about.
> > Thats it, post feedback if you agree/disagree with anything I’ve mentioned

BWO I never agree with you, but I support your message 100%… End of the world as we know it…

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My only complaint is commendations. Besides that, I really enjoy playing this game, especially after the update yesterday.