What's really killing Halo

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People say 343 Industries is killing halo, haha no.
The real issue with Halo nowdays it’s the community.
People who do nothing more but to spout negativity about Halo 5, 343i with no valid points whatsoever, spread ignorance across the web making people who haven’t played halo hate Halo.
and it’s really sad, because the people who are saying these things are people who pretend to be halo fans.
i mean come on, really
It’s not Smartzoom, it’s not sprint it’s the current community people, if halo wants to shine again these 343hating kiddies need to get rid of.
Gonna address some of the invalid points these 343hating kiddies try to point out and correct them.
SMARTZOOM

These people are literary too dumb to see the difference between Ads and smartzoom, lmao look if you’re gonna cry over smartzoom might as well cry over Halo CE pistol zoom, BR zoom ect it has been on halo since day one dude, smartzoom is just cosmetic that’s all, just 343 renaming what has been on halo for ages, and stylizing it with a better look, which is cosmetic, you get shot you lose zoom.
these kiddies are probably gonna come at me with the average 343hating kiddie invalid points that you can see the spartan aiming with the weapon so it must be ADS, listen to me, do you know what ADS means right? it means Aiming Down Sights, listen do you see a SIGHT on the weapon on Smartzoom, tell me, did you? Ofc not.
Just a zoom, no SIGHT
If youre too dumb to know what sights are, which i know since 343hating kiddies arent smart, i’m gonna demonstrate you what sights are
http://gunnoob.com/portals/0/GuidePictures/SightPicture.jpg
That’s what weapon sights are, also known as iron sights, there were none of those in halo 5, there was a holographic image, in fact the spartan did not move his weapon to zoom with weapons such as the AR, ect just the visor itself zooming. Only BR, DMR, SMG the spartan moved it weapon to zoom, which were already classic zoomable weapons, just cosmetic it looks cooler.
You get shot, the you lose zoom, as always.
The pistol however did actually had somewhat of sights, look dude it wasn’t like actual iron sights plus you still had the holographic image, still cosmetic, you’ve done it in Halo CE, Halo Reach, Halo 4.

Sprint/Change on the franchise

Blahblahblah Sprint has no place in halo blahblahblah i dont want halo to change blahblah
Halo has always been about innovation, the thing i see is that you kiddies bash on everything new 343 adds to halo, you don’t want the franchise to evolve, yet you call yourself a ‘‘halo fan’’
if you really were a halo fan you know sprint is good, because if you’re a real halo fan like me an actual person who respects bungie & 343 and actually reads the books, and actually really enjoys halo, you would know that Halo is about innovation.
Halo changed the FPS genre, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3 these games always do innovation.
A true Halo fans knows that, a true halo fan doesn’t want Halo to be like call of duty or other franchises, that don’t do nothing but re-skin games.
Halo’s true purpose is to be an innovate game, but also bring amazing, rich story telling.
And that’s the most basic thing a true halo fan knows.
so then theres you clowns, telling me that you’re a halo fan, and you don’t want change, and you want halo to stay the same, you want reskined games, wow that truly shows me how much of a halo fans you guys are lmao
343 Industries with Halo 5 is doing the key thing Halo has been about, innovation, 343 with halo 5 is really doing pretty amazing and i can’t wait to play that game.
343 is literary sacrificing Splitscreen and other things for the innovation, the scale, and stuff like that.
But in terms of the whole splitscreen stuff, look i do understand the whole splitscreen thing i like splitscreen, but hey, innovation.
Sometimes sacrifices has to be made
If you’re gonna complain over splitscreeen, well youre gonna have to complain at Microsoft and xbox one’s hardcore, the console has its limits.

MCC Launch.

Look i wasn’t happy at all with MCC’s launch, but that doesn’t give you a reason to hate 343 like that.
Plus the beta which came out Jan was too polished to be called beta, clearly 343 putted their hears & efforts on halo 5 and they really seem to be demonstrating to, but well they rushed MCC on the process.
Which is my speculation on the reason why MCC’s launch was terrible.
343’s reputation was screwed up over MCC which leads to this current community.
And MCC isn’t broken anymore, if you think MCC is broken, dude you should like check your brain, see if you have any brain damage

So yeah, the 3 most common 343hating kiddie arguments crushed.
if you 343hating kiddies gonna call yourself halo fans, just be an actual halo fan, and use your head, and think about all the nonsense you’ve said and get constructive about what you say, and stop acting like a 9 year old.

He brings valid points. But the way he worded them will get people’s hearts pumping that they’ll fight tooth and nail to fight those words and even report it for its harsh. Plus the words comes out childish themselves, even though they make a point.

And that’s also a problem with the community you didn’t address. We no longer hold respect for each other. It’s nothing but hate and contempt and we say and do harsh things to each other.

Just earlier today I received a very hurtful and Harsh message from a kid who was raging because I shut down his points in a calm and valid response and he came at me like a child. Would post it. But it’s against forum rules to call people out and I think I gotten under the Mods skins enough.

So even though he gives valid counter arguments. The way these responses were delivered are in themselves a root of the problem with this community

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> even though he gives valid counter arguments.

Valid counter arguments? Like “wawawa MCC is fixed, use your brain”?

Look man, I read your posts for example, disagree here and there but respect your opinion.

His post is just a very childish “complain” “complain” without any standpoint but whining.

I reported and Im sure this thread will be locked in…

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The core point you are trying to get across is pretty valid but this isn’t the way. Any argument that belittles the other side (“343 hating kiddies”) ultimately loses a large part of its validity. Yeah the gaming community in general (this isn’t a Halo exclusive thing. Just look at the backwash against Fallout 4 for example). has become quite jaded in the last few years but even still there are enough people that can appriciate what developers like 343i have been able to achieve in the past few years. So no Halo isn’t going to die. Halo 5 is going to be awesome. Period.

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It’s still here. And apparently you didn’t even read the rest of my post. If that one line is all you focused on. Next time you should read my whole statement before you attack me too.

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I attacked you? How? I just disagreed that I dont find his points valid.
I agree with you on the other things and if I decide to focus on that part of your post (where I disagree with) whats the problem?

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> I attacked you? How? I just disagreed that I dont find his points valid.
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Then I’m sorry. I miss read your post. My bad. Felt like you were clumping me with him.

Lol

I agree with OP’s overall message, but it was conveyed in an immature and inflammatory manner without articulating any real thoughts beyond “boohoo get over it”. I can’t find it in my heart to support threads like this, even when the message is something I can get behind.

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> I agree with OP’s overall message, but it was conveyed in an immature and inflammatory manner without articulating any real thoughts beyond “boohoo get over it”. I can’t find it in my heart to support threads like this, even when the message is something I can get behind.

Yeah, the idea wasn’t bad but the specifics of the message left much to be desired.

OP, why so hostile? I may agree with your points, but your attitude matches that of the people you’re calling out.

Just take it easy bro, you can say all this stuff on a kind way and i agree the community is going deep… i know halo 5 will be awesome and thanks to 343i, of curse some things i dislike but they can’t make happy everyone at 100%

The Halo community is hostile to each other. There is no hope in fixing the community.

Hey, well at least we’re still better than the COD community.

I agree with some of OPs points but it should be delivered in a better way. Saying the community is the issue for all of Halos problems and then blasting the community in an immature and child like manner is not the solution.

We all need to stop throwing insults and start working with pure evidence and facts instead of ideologies and opinions.

Pretty sure the Master Chief killed Halo when he blew up the Autumn…

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Sooo… To to sum up your post:

“Anyone who disagrees with me and thinks 343i hasn’t done a good job is a limited, 343ihating, 9 year old kiddie with brain damage. SmartScope isn’t ADS, if you don’t like sprint YOU HATE CHANGE and mcc was fine because they poured their hearts into Halo 5!”

Essentially, you’ve acted like an elitist and antagonistic jerk, rehashed the same arguments that are brought up in every thread of the same subject, and outright stated that those who disagree with you have no place in this community and are the sole reason for the games woes.

This definitely isn’t going to create any sort of positive community discussion. If you were to restate your opinions in a more open manner that treats your fellow community members as people and not carboard cutouts that you can punch holes through whenever you want, that would be great.

If not, this thread should probably be…