What would "actually" make you lose hope in halo?

Be realistic, you’re not sitting around in the halo forums to tell people you’re going to quit halo if it has the DMR or the credit system or loadouts or assassinations. Those are just mechanics, mechanics with the ability to be “improved”. So my question to you, forum, what would actually make you lose hope in halo if something happened in halo 4? To the point where you give up, sell your xbox, buy a ps3, and play…and play…what are some ps3 exclusives?..Oh yeah, uncharted and god of war. Here, I have a fairly good answer:

So come fall 2012, you pre ordered halo 4 and are going to go pick it up, the retailers give you a paper envelop with “Halo 4” and a crude drawing of master chief written in pen. You get home, confused by why there was no case for it, you pop in halo 4, and in the main menu you see campaign, dlc…and…that’s it…

So you select campaign and it takes 7 minutes to load it up, after the impatient wait one single screenshot is loaded with a picture of master chief holding two armor lock AA’s in his hands, in the background you can see forge world with two killballs and a column of seastack rocks that forms a huge shlong in the air. Confused and dumbfounded, you take a closer look at the chief in his new armor, and under the face plate you can just make out a troll face. Quickly you exit to main menu and go to DLC, the marketplace opens up and you see one DLC content for halo 4 that says, “play the full experience of halo 4!” that costs 800 ms points. Pissed off, but thankful you have extra ms points, you pay for the DLC.

The content finishes downloading and you return to the halo 4 main menu, you notice that the only added option is theater. Hoping for some explaination you load up theater mode and see that one video is in it. You load up the video and once again see master chief looking out at forge world; you notice that the map is a remade version of “the cage” except that all the object textures have been replaced with the texture for wall coliseums. Master chief turns around and looks at you, then takes off his helmet, revealing the troll face. The face smiles, then begins to sing the trolololo song and runs around “the cage”, shooting his DMR. When he gets to the middle of “the cage” you can see a BR lying on the ground, the troll proceeds to -Yoink!- the BR and shoot it with the DMR, the troll face then jumps off of master chief’s head, then Microsoft and 343 come in and begin to eat the BR. Master chief has the Mark V helmet from halo CE on and screams, "THEY’RE EATING HER! THEN THEY’RE GONNA EAT ME! OH MY GOD!!! When Microsoft, 343, and the troll finish eating the BR, they turn to master chief and begin to sodomize him, you watch master chief get raped for 7 seconds until the screen cuts to black, you look at your xbox, and see that it has red ringed.

[Edit: Wow guys, I leave the forums for a day and look what happens! Your responses are great and this was the last thing I expected! This thread was only meant to be a joke because everyone is so uptight and whatnot it needed some comic relief. Even so, thanks guys!]

If Halo 4 winds up being built on a tweaked Reach (which is itself a warmed over Halo 3) engine I’m out.

> If Halo 4 winds up being built on a tweaked Reach (which is itself a warmed over Halo 3) engine I’m out.

Well…it is, but that doesn’t mean it’l play like Reach.

> If Halo 4 winds up being built on a tweaked Reach (which is itself a warmed over Halo 3) engine I’m out.

The Reach engine is fine. It can support good graphics, 4-player split-screen and reasonable amounts of enemy AI - plus tweaking it is going to improve further on these aspects. Where is the problem? What justifies the time it would take away from other areas to build up a new engine from scratch?

> > If Halo 4 winds up being built on a tweaked Reach (which is itself a warmed over Halo 3) engine I’m out.
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> The Reach engine is fine. It can support good graphics, 4-player split-screen and reasonable amounts of enemy AI - plus tweaking it is going to improve further on these aspects. Where is the problem? What justifies the time it would take away from other areas to build up a new engine from scratch?

Agreed.

On topic, the campaign is the real sink-or-swim aspect for me. No campaign in any game to date has been close to the potential games hold to tell stories, I’m hoping Halo 4 changes this, gives us gamers something that can hold up to the best books and films. Few games have had the potential to do this. Brink was the previous possibility, and it failed miserably and utterly. A lot of my hopes are resting on Halo 4.

So, no pressure 343 :smiley:

> If Halo 4 winds up being built on a tweaked Reach (which is itself a warmed over Halo 3) engine I’m out.

And…that was exactly what I asked you not to do, and Halo 4 IS going to use an upgraded reach engine.

Campaign: It has to be good. If I find out the flood return and are a major enemy, I am out. Beating a dead horse is one thing, but bringing back the Flood for Halo 4 is just…

MP: AA’s and I am out. Meaning I will buy the game when I can get it for $20 or so, rather than it being an instant buy. I am pretty torn on sprint. I don’t want to see it return, but its probably not as much as a deal breaker for me as AA’s are.

If Halo 4 comes around and it’s a failure, like Reach, I’ll lose hope.

if halo 4 doesn’t deliver a fresh, exciting, in-depth and emotional campaign experience I’ll just back out. and if the multiplayer maps are as uninspired as the ones in reach, I shall smash the disc(s) and use it(them) as cat litter, because that is all it would be worth if it fails.

If its boring, terrible graphics, and no new added elements.

If it doesn’t innovate, I’m out.

Well, not really, I’ll always play Halo but I’ll be extremely disappointed and be convinced that the Halo franchise will never be what it was in the past if that were to happen.

> On topic, the campaign is the real sink-or-swim aspect for me. No campaign in any game to date has been close to the potential games hold to tell stories, I’m hoping Halo 4 changes this, gives us gamers something that can hold up to the best books and films. Few games have had the potential to do this. Brink was the previous possibility, and it failed miserably and utterly. A lot of my hopes are resting on Halo 4.
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> So, no pressure 343 :smiley:

This. OMG this. The universe is so rich, yet none of the campaigns have wow-ed me in terms of storytelling. None. Halo CE and 2 do the series’ best jobs IMO and even those fall short a little bit.

this is my serious list, after ODST and REACH im starting to get dissappointed in halo, which is my favorite series to date

  1. if it played more like CoD
  2. if it plays like reach
  3. if it has armor abilities
  4. if they keep bloom like reach
  5. if there is no sense of discovery(like halo CE)
  6. if there is no sense of being a total badass (halo 2)
  7. if the multiplayer was like reach’s
  8. if the new(?) enemies are limited

probrably got more, but thats good for now

> If Halo 4 winds up being built on a tweaked Reach (which is itself a warmed over Halo 3) engine I’m out.

I don’t think you understand what a game engine is.

They could make the next morza sport game on the Reach engine if they wanted. The engine itself means absolutely nothing as far as the gameplay goes.

try to follow in bungie’s footsteps. What I mean by this is I want 343 to make a 343 game. I don’t want 343 to make a bungie game. this is one of the reason that I hope they ignore the fanbase…No matter what they do, if the game isn’t exactly like halo 2/3, people will be disappointed. For that reason I say f*** the people saying that Halo 4 should be like the previous halo’s…you guys are no different then the CoD fans that buy pretty much the same game every year, or the people that only buy IW titles, every other year.

If the game continued to portray ‘prophets’ as the bad guys. That all the villains are religious nuts. Loads of mason symbolism. Basically if it continues the way Halo 3 went (and Halo 2 for that matter, even though it is my favorite Halo game of all time).

If the Halo 4 Campaign isn’t better (and longer) than Halo: CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 combined, I’ll be sad. :frowning:

@Lehnaru - Prepared to be sad then. No game is better than Halo CE, Halo 2 and Halo 3 combined. And they are never going to bring out a campaign that is over twenty hours long.

They are things to hope for, but saying that it would be upsetting if it isn’t the case is setting your expectations a little too high. Unless of course you were joking, but I don’t want to suggest that because I don’t want to causes any kind of offence.

If there is a credit-only system like in Reach.