I mean Im not trying to be pro or anti rank here. I just don’t see why visible Rank was a big deal, from what I herd invisible rank was a way to keep modding and cheating in control (correct me if im wrong). and wouldn’t rank only matter if you back it up with performence in a match?, if not then enlighten me :),
Im looking at it like its a car, the sure the car looks cool, but does it run well? does it run at all?, enlighten me.
“What the hells invisible?”
It made people 
It depends on the player in my mind. SOme like others dont. But id rather not see another fourm that discuesses this ‘issue’
please dont… the trolls JUST stoped complaining… dont start things up again
Oh this topic should be amusing!
People wanted it to be visible, I’m sure some will be along soon enough to explain why.
Some players want it to show off. I use it to determine how experience the player is (the higher their rank, the likeliness that they will perform greatly). This is not always a correct way to assume if the player will do well or not though, but most of the time it’s right. I will say though, I am a bit relieved that I don’t have to check out other player’s ranks to determine this anymore, but still, I don’t see the point of making them invisible in game.
I’m a highly competitive player and I really don’t give a -Yoink- if I have some joke rank that is visible to others or not.
All I care about is a ranked playlist where I can play with players with somewhat equal skills and who play to win. The option to see how well I’m progressing is just a welcome bonus to be honest. The “new” CRU system or whatever the hell 343 calls it is just a poor way of shutting the mouths of the community who don’t have a clue what they complain about.
What’s the point of having skill based ranks on all of the playlists where only a few play to win? Everyone who just barely play serious will have an easy 50.
i really dont care but if i had to pick id say keep it hidden. Rank affcets game play way to much. High rank players get tea bagged a ton, they get accused of buying a high rank, high rank players also tend to flip out on the lesser skilled players,. So in the end id rather it be left out but still really dont care
It served 3 purposes.
It was a visual representation of skill level. It provided information to a player as to how much of a threat an enemy player might be and how reliable a team mate is. This is important information because it may affect your playing style and decision making.
It was a motivational tool. Similar to an unlock system only it has no effect on gameplay.
Bragging rights- some people like to brag I suppose.
The ranks are all for showing off. People want something to brag about and they no longer can do that. Well they can, but they can’t prove it.
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> It served 3 purposes.
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> 1. It was a visual representation of skill level. It provided information to a player as to how much of a threat an enemy player might be and how reliable a team mate is. This is important information because it may affect your playing style and decision making.
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> 2. It was a motivational tool. Similar to an unlock system only it has no effect on gameplay.
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> 3. Bragging rights- some people like to brag I suppose.
I see your points but at the same time,
1-High ranked players are accused of buying the rank instead of earning it
2- Its not really a motivational tool
3- the bragging rights are the big issues. High ranked players tend to either flip out if losing and scream at team mates which in turn results in agguments. If there winning then they tend to think there the reason why they are. If you earn the rank then good job, but dont think it means you have a ‘special title’ that allows a player to get way with any type of trash talking
> I mean Im not trying to be pro or anti rank here. I just don’t see why visible Rank was a big deal, from what I herd invisible rank was a way to keep modding and cheating in control (correct me if im wrong). and wouldn’t rank only matter if you back it up with performence in a match?, if not then enlighten me :),
>
> Im looking at it like its a car, the sure the car looks cool, but does it run well? does it run at all?, enlighten me.
Exactly. I posted this in another forum thread and it really sums up a lot. There is a lot more about this issue then some “visible number” by a name.
> Person 1: Aw yeah I just got a 50 in Halo 4!
> Person 2: Where’s your proof?
> Person 1: uhhhhhhhhhhh
And if you just owned them over and over again in the game well then BOOM! You just proved yourself. The other person at that point can say nothing. No “level number” is needed.
If some random dude just owned you and you come back with “I’m a 50 you just lucky” all that proves is the number system is flawed and not factual.
Why?
Ummmm, you just got owned, served, beaten, destroyed, and drank big can of whoopYoink, signed and delivered by that person. Your “number” is bogus (maybe even boosted). Think we can start calling it the Bogoboost Number, which I predict will turn out to be a huge pandemic in Halo 4.
All the “proof” one WILL ever, ever, ever, need to “brag” themselves up is playing well and winning that game. Just like the old saying, “What you done for me lately?”
In all honesty, and not being mean, but if a person needs to have a number by their name to “brag” to all those playing, there is something much, much, much more serious at the heart of this issue then a Visible Rank.
As a health care practioner, I really have to ask that person to pause and think about what is going on in their life and mental health. Maybe even visit http://www.more-selfesteem.com/
Life is short. Life is precious. Video games are not healthy if taken to the extreme of worrying about a number next to your name.
My gripe with 343 ranking system isn’t that it is invisible, it is that it’s all in one playlist. Therefore you will have socials and competitives in the same playlist. Some people on your team will be trying, and some wont.
The ranking system is also flawed for the following reasons:
1.Join in progress- What if you join a game where your team is already being destroyed and you lose, you will derank undeservedly.
2.Guests- How many times in reach would a person have a guest who completely sucked?
Standstills- Since it is a progressive system, you get credits regardless of performance. This encourages standstills like in reach, because you still get credits no matter what.
Full Parties- People will play with full parties and have a huge advantage.
It’s not a number that is there just for bragging. I do not care if the number is shown, but there should at least be a playlist for ranked. This playlist shouldn’t allow guests, standstills should get no credits, and full parties wouldn’t be allowed.
> > I mean Im not trying to be pro or anti rank here. I just don’t see why visible Rank was a big deal, from what I herd invisible rank was a way to keep modding and cheating in control (correct me if im wrong). and wouldn’t rank only matter if you back it up with performence in a match?, if not then enlighten me :),
> >
> > Im looking at it like its a car, the sure the car looks cool, but does it run well? does it run at all?, enlighten me.
>
> Exactly. I posted this in another forum thread and it really sums up a lot. There is a lot more about this issue then some “visible number” by a name.
>
>
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> > Person 1: Aw yeah I just got a 50 in Halo 4!
> > Person 2: Where’s your proof?
> > Person 1: uhhhhhhhhhhh
>
> And if you just owned them over and over again in the game well then BOOM! You just proved yourself. The other person at that point can say nothing. No “level number” is needed.
>
> If some random dude just owned you and you come back with “I’m a 50 you just lucky” all that proves is the number system is flawed and not factual.
>
> Why?
>
> Ummmm, you just got owned, served, beaten, destroyed, and drank big can of whoopYoink, signed and delivered by that person. Your “number” is bogus (maybe even boosted). Think we can start calling it the Bogoboost Number, which I predict will turn out to be a huge pandemic in Halo 4.
>
> All the “proof” one WILL ever, ever, ever, need to “brag” themselves up is playing well and winning that game. Just like the old saying, “What you done for me lately?”
>
> In all honesty, and not being mean, but if a person needs to have a number by their name to “brag” to all those playing, there is something much, much, much more serious at the heart of this issue then a Visible Rank.
>
> As a health care practioner, I really have to ask that person to pause and think about what is going on in their life and mental health. Maybe even visit http://www.more-selfesteem.com/
>
> Life is short. Life is precious. Video games are not healthy if taken to the extreme of worrying about a number next to your name.
I cant thank you enough, this entire post is the truth.
You are welcome.
And was not trying to be mean or put anyone down. Just stating as a health care practioner, there is a lot more then just a “visible rank”.
Besides the “competitive” folks are such a HUGE minority of the Halo population. Catering to them makes ZERO sense.
If I own a business and I have 90% that like the product and 10% or less that does not. I will NOT change it to make the 10% or less happy. All I would do is ticked off the other 90% and risk losing ALL my business to a small percent of irrevelant customer base at 10%.
> It served 3 purposes.
>
> 1. It was a visual representation of skill level. It provided information to a player as to how much of a threat an enemy player might be and how reliable a team mate is. This is important information because it may affect your playing style and decision making.
>
> 2. It was a motivational tool. Similar to an unlock system only it has no effect on gameplay.
>
> 3. Bragging rights- some people like to brag I suppose.
True but without actuly performing and showing the skill to back it up, the rank number is just color on a car.
The potential for additional incentive to play and win as a team is lost with hidden ranks.
> I am a relic they want to get rid of, so why do I exist and live? In order to exist you need a purpose, to exist for no reason is the same as being dead -Gaara
It’s a good way of putting it. People ofttimes need a reason to do something, something to live by. Ranks provide a tangible goal to reach, and for this they strive, and it doesn’t exactly mean much if only you can see it.