I miss playing as an elite. We need them back! If the excuse is “oh they’re too big to be correctly playable” well then I say FORGET THE CANON! Make them smaller! I like diversity in gameplay!
Smaller elites would look kinda funny, lol. So I don’t agree for that part, but I do agree with the diversity and having them playable. It would be a nice feature for Halo 5, as it would have to be programmed in and 4 is already released.
Want the reason…War Games Simulator. This collapsed the elite fanbase due to it being on the Infinity and wouldn’t make sense if they were in the Infinity.
Ironically if 343i hadn’t polluted their canon in an effort to just have the Covenant be enemies again, Elites could’ve been in the multiplayer helping the UNSC take down Jul 'Mdama and his ilk.
better to play as both an elite and a knight then just a spartan/flood
Elites were only good for machinimas. It doesn’t matter if you or the Elite following enjoy Elites for the diversity they add to gameplay. More people dislike the advantages and disadvantages that the Elites bring to the table. They have caused severe problems in the past Halo games and will continue to as long as they are playable in multi-player. The only thing I wouldn’t mind seeing is downsized Forerunner combat skins available in multi-player. They are similar enough to Spartans structure that it wouldn’t do much damage if any.
> Want the reason…War Games Simulator. This collapsed the elite fanbase due to it being on the Infinity and wouldn’t make sense if they were in the Infinity.
Yeah, because killing fellow spartans of different colors makes so much sense.
(/sarcasm)
In all honesty, they could have done it and made it canon. The spartans are actually fighting simulations of each other, its not like theyre actually killing each other. It actually makes less sense since spartans will gain no expirience fighting each other when it comes down to fighting elites in real life.
As for balance, reach’s elites were unbalanced with spartans because elites spawned with different weapons than spartans (needler, plasma pistol, etc). Bungie actually did a good job balancing invasion in reach this way.
As for halo 3, im almost positive that elite and spartan hitboxes were exactly the same, which is why elites in halo 3 seemed to hunch down more. It was because their “head” was shorter than their height. This is why elites and spartans could coexist in halo 3, and why they were segregated in reach. Now they are wiped out of mm. 
> Elites were only good for machinimas. It doesn’t matter if you or the Elite following enjoy Elites for the diversity they add to gameplay. More people dislike the advantages and disadvantages that the Elites bring to the table. They have caused severe problems in the past Halo games and will continue to as long as they are playable in multi-player. The only thing I wouldn’t mind seeing is downsized Forerunner combat skins available in multi-player. They are similar enough to Spartans structure that it wouldn’t do much damage if any.
The extent of the Elites problems I know of stem from Halo 3 and yet it is absurd to assume they couldn’t be fixed. They could be.
> I miss playing as an elite. We need them back! If the excuse is “oh they’re too big to be correctly playable” well then I say FORGET THE CANON! Make them smaller! I like diversity in gameplay!
Screw elites. Have a promethean slayer!
^^^this
> The only thing I wouldn’t mind seeing is downsized Forerunner combat skins available in multi-player.
you mean like didact armor?
heck yes!
Bah why not play as a AI hologram as well, that would let people play as their favorite character, good example is Cortana.343 is only limited by what the their imaginations can deliver.
Hell if 343 wanted a laugh they could add grunts,jackals,brutes,hunters,crawlers,knights,spartans,marines,civilians,drones,AI constructs, and much much more as playable characters if they wanted to.They are in no way limited to just allowing elites and spartans into the playing field.
> Ironically <mark>if 343i hadn’t polluted their canon in an effort to just have the Covenant be enemies again</mark>, Elites could’ve been in the multiplayer helping the UNSC take down Jul 'Mdama and his ilk.
Please elaborate
> Bah why not play as a AI hologram as well, that would let people play as their favorite character, good example is Cortana.343 is only limited by what the their imaginations can deliver.
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> Hell if 343 wanted a laugh they could add grunts,jackals,brutes,hunters,crawlers,knights,spartans,marines,civilians,drones,AI constructs, and much much more as playable characters if they wanted to.They are in no way limited to just allowing elites and spartans into the playing field.
Grunts. We need GRUNTS!!
> As for halo 3, im almost positive that elite and spartan hitboxes were exactly the same, which is why elites in halo 3 seemed to hunch down more. It was because their “head” was shorter than their height. This is why elites and spartans could coexist in halo 3, and why they were segregated in reach. Now they are wiped out of mm.
Ever play swat in Halo 3? Good luck head shotting an elite…definitley could not coexist even with he same hitbox.
> Bah why not play as a AI hologram as well, that would let people play as their favorite character, good example is Cortana.343 is only limited by what the their imaginations can deliver.
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> Hell if 343 wanted a laugh they could add grunts,jackals,brutes,hunters,crawlers,knights,spartans,marines,civilians,drones,AI constructs, and much much more as playable characters if they wanted to.They are in no way limited to just allowing elites and spartans into the playing field.
While some people might think that’s laughable, those kinds of ideas and features would only add more to the game.
Not to mention, then you’d REALLY be able to have classes.
I miss invasion but it felt so odd, the covies are a chain based group I understand elite spec ops group but even then they have grunts and other fodder in their ranks. I hope one day for a mode a giant map, with ai marines, odst, and spartans along with ali covies to fill ranks and have you play either side.
until that day you could say its a way for the spartans to know their enemies better wouldnt be first time the military had its troops simulate a opposing force in training. Or to have it cannon could say a covie ai hacked their simulator or arbies troops and them spar off in the simulators.
Never know halo 5 could have didact or whoever is left in charge of forerunners, force evolve groups of elites to have a more human size body, forerunner personal guard or something, this way you can keep elite split jaw, hoofs and all just more human proportions to fit hitboxs better.
> > As for halo 3, im almost positive that elite and spartan hitboxes were exactly the same, which is why elites in halo 3 seemed to hunch down more. It was because their “head” was shorter than their height. This is why elites and spartans could coexist in halo 3, and why they were segregated in reach. Now they are wiped out of mm.
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> Ever play swat in Halo 3? Good luck head shotting an elite…definitley could not coexist even with he same hitbox.
The hitboxes were the same, people just kept shooting at the wrong spot because of the structure of the Elite’s heads.
> > Ironically <mark>if 343i hadn’t polluted their canon in an effort to just have the Covenant be enemies again</mark>, Elites could’ve been in the multiplayer helping the UNSC take down Jul 'Mdama and his ilk.
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> Please elaborate
You have read Glasslands and Thursday War right? The anti-human sentiment among the Elites is staggering, even though there would be no real reason for it to exist and Bungie hinted as much with the Elites getting over such sentiment and moving on. Heck, the youth of the Sangheili was saturated with a growing amount of human sympathizes. Now we have Elites gunning for the Arbiter, ONI making things worse and everybody wants to kill each other again.
> > As for halo 3, im almost positive that elite and spartan hitboxes were exactly the same, which is why elites in halo 3 seemed to hunch down more. It was because their “head” was shorter than their height. This is why elites and spartans could coexist in halo 3, and why they were segregated in reach. Now they are wiped out of mm.
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> Ever play swat in Halo 3? Good luck head shotting an elite…definitley could not coexist even with he same hitbox.
Well its either that, or a bigger target like in reach, which is NOT a good mm balance. I do understand though. I meant elites could coexist with spartans in social, There really should only be spartans in ranked. (unless its elite slayer/swat or something)
Idk the whole war game spartan vs spartan is dumb. They are practicing killing humans them being human themselves. If i was in charge of this whole project i would at least incorporate some elite ai. That way my army can practice fighting aliens and knowing there weakness. There is a reason why the army trains to kill a human and not a deer ffs.