Hey guys,
I know this may seem like a dumb question, but my Spartan Company is after the Achilles Armor Set, and we are just now noticing that after using a Warthog, the ground vehicle kills don’t seem to be going up as much. I don’t think they are counting towards the Kill Commendation???
Road Trip
Level 5/5
Kill an enemy Spartan with a ground vehicle
Can someone confirm this???
It does NOT show up as the turret (chain, rocket, gauss) in the kill feed and not the vehicle like the ghost or scorpion does, and in the after game report it doesn’t say Warthog kills, it says CHAIN TURRET kills.
Any ideas??
I’d say every vehicle besides the banshee and phaeton would count as a ground vehicle kill. If this is not the case than that’s pretty dumb.
If i recall correctly…
Ground Vehicle Kills = Only kills dealt by the driver.
Wraith - splatter or cannon. Not turret
Scorpion - splatter or cannon. Not turret
Ghost - splatter or gun
Warthog (all) - splatter only
Mantis - Anything
Gungooses - Splatter or gunner. Not passenger
Scouthog - Splatter. Not passenger.
Mongoose - good luck!
Phaeton - None
Banshee - None
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> I’d say every vehicle besides the banshee and phaeton would count as a ground vehicle kill. If this is not the case than that’s pretty dumb.
I second this. It would be dumb to exclude all variant of the warthog because they have a turret that is different from other “ground vehicle”
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> If i recall correctly…
> Ground Vehicle Kills = Only kills dealt by the driver.
>
> Wraith - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> Scorpion - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> Ghost - splatter or gun
> Warthog (all) - splatter only
> Mantis - Anything
> Gungooses - Splatter or gunner. Not passenger
> Scouthog - Splatter. Not passenger.
> Mongoose - good luck!
> Phaeton - None
> Banshee - None
This is what I thought too! Thanks man! It’s pretty lame that the turret kills don’t count as well, which eliminates the need for a Warthog in our quest for the helmet at this point RIGHT after they drop this hog wild REQ pack!
That’s real dumb. I never even considered that. Oh well, We’ll get there soon enough.
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> If i recall correctly…
> Ground Vehicle Kills = Only kills dealt by the driver.
>
> Wraith - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> Scorpion - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> Ghost - splatter or gun
> Warthog (all) - splatter only
> Mantis - Anything
> Gungooses - Splatter or gunner. Not passenger
> Scouthog - Splatter. Not passenger.
> Mongoose - good luck!
> Phaeton - None
> Banshee - None
So since splatter with the warthog count as ground vehicle kills, do wraith and ghost ect. count as both ground vehicle kills and splatters or just splatters? Because going with the vehicle emblem thing, the splatter does not show the vehicle, only the main weapon does.
It’s a flawed system that 343 Industries should have corrected months ago. How are you going to create a videogame which encourages team play… create a REQ pack that drops with new Warthogs that are completely useless in achieving an Armor Set that is already hard to get???
Warthogs ARE ground vehicles, the turret is a part of it…the same could be said about a Scorpion or Wraith.
My company will NOT resort to farming in Warzone to achieve a goal in a flawed system you set up (because we just won’t stoop to that level and make another person’s experience miserable), but at the same a team shouldn’t be held responsible for doing it because at that point you’ve left them no choice IMO.
Companies like Whiskey got a bad wrap for farming, I can see now why they did it.
Ground vehicles kills should be across the point ANY ground vehicle.
Wow, I feel better now…
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> If i recall correctly…
> Ground Vehicle Kills = Only kills dealt by the driver.
>
> Wraith - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> Scorpion - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> Ghost - splatter or gun
> Warthog (all) - splatter only
> Mantis - Anything
> Gungooses - Splatter or gunner. Not passenger
> Scouthog - Splatter. Not passenger.
> Mongoose - good luck!
> Phaeton - None
> Banshee - None
Unfortunately, I can confirm that this is NOT true. You are correct that the turrets don’t count, but something else doesn’t count and I can’t figure it out. We track everyone’s individual stats in our company and our company stats and we cannot figure out a correlation at all. For example, in the last 24 hours we got 2168 of the above kills you have mentioned. However, our company commendation progress for Road Trip only went up 1598. Something big is missing like ghosts aren’t ground vehicles or something. I wish 343 would be a little bit more transparent or have any kind of actual support at all for that matter instead of people left guessing about everything on the forums all day.
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> > If i recall correctly…
> > Ground Vehicle Kills = Only kills dealt by the driver.
> >
> > Wraith - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> > Scorpion - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> > Ghost - splatter or gun
> > Warthog (all) - splatter only
> > Mantis - Anything
> > Gungooses - Splatter or gunner. Not passenger
> > Scouthog - Splatter. Not passenger.
> > Mongoose - good luck!
> > Phaeton - None
> > Banshee - None
>
>
> Unfortunately, I can confirm that this is NOT true. You are correct that the turrets don’t count, but something else doesn’t count and I can’t figure it out. We track everyone’s individual stats in our company and our company stats and we cannot figure out a correlation at all. For example, in the last 24 hours we got 2168 of the above kills you have mentioned. However, our company commendation progress for Road Trip only went up 1598. Something big is missing like ghosts aren’t ground vehicles or something. I wish 343 would be a little bit more transparent or have any kind of actual support at all for that matter instead of people left guessing about everything on the forums all day.
It’s not hard to figure out really what’s missing. Time consuming yes but just figure out which vehicle has the amount of kills missing and that’s the one that does not count
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> > > If i recall correctly…
> > > Ground Vehicle Kills = Only kills dealt by the driver.
> > >
> > > Wraith - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> > > Scorpion - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> > > Ghost - splatter or gun
> > > Warthog (all) - splatter only
> > > Mantis - Anything
> > > Gungooses - Splatter or gunner. Not passenger
> > > Scouthog - Splatter. Not passenger.
> > > Mongoose - good luck!
> > > Phaeton - None
> > > Banshee - None
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, I can confirm that this is NOT true. You are correct that the turrets don’t count, but something else doesn’t count and I can’t figure it out. We track everyone’s individual stats in our company and our company stats and we cannot figure out a correlation at all. For example, in the last 24 hours we got 2168 of the above kills you have mentioned. However, our company commendation progress for Road Trip only went up 1598. Something big is missing like ghosts aren’t ground vehicles or something. I wish 343 would be a little bit more transparent or have any kind of actual support at all for that matter instead of people left guessing about everything on the forums all day.
>
>
> It’s not hard to figure out really what’s missing. Time consuming yes but just figure out which vehicle has the amount of kills missing and that’s the one that does not count
It’s harder than you think because the stats aren’t realtime. For example, you could have the company commendations update within 10 minutes, but the individuals can take 2 hours. It’s insane how poorly done their system is. So you have to take multiple samples over time. I’m going to try and do that and will report back.
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> > > > If i recall correctly…
> > > > Ground Vehicle Kills = Only kills dealt by the driver.
> > > >
> > > > Wraith - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> > > > Scorpion - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> > > > Ghost - splatter or gun
> > > > Warthog (all) - splatter only
> > > > Mantis - Anything
> > > > Gungooses - Splatter or gunner. Not passenger
> > > > Scouthog - Splatter. Not passenger.
> > > > Mongoose - good luck!
> > > > Phaeton - None
> > > > Banshee - None
> > >
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, I can confirm that this is NOT true. You are correct that the turrets don’t count, but something else doesn’t count and I can’t figure it out. We track everyone’s individual stats in our company and our company stats and we cannot figure out a correlation at all. For example, in the last 24 hours we got 2168 of the above kills you have mentioned. However, our company commendation progress for Road Trip only went up 1598. Something big is missing like ghosts aren’t ground vehicles or something. I wish 343 would be a little bit more transparent or have any kind of actual support at all for that matter instead of people left guessing about everything on the forums all day.
> >
> >
> > It’s not hard to figure out really what’s missing. Time consuming yes but just figure out which vehicle has the amount of kills missing and that’s the one that does not count
>
>
> It’s harder than you think because the stats aren’t realtime. For example, you could have the company commendations update within 10 minutes, but the individuals can take 2 hours. It’s insane how poorly done their system is. So you have to take multiple samples over time. I’m going to try and do that and will report back.
Sounds like an issue on your end? Idk, but I can see exactly what I did and how far I increased before my next game loads up. That’s why I thought it would just be time consuming
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> > > > > 2533274894783242;3:
> > > > > If i recall correctly…
> > > > > Ground Vehicle Kills = Only kills dealt by the driver.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wraith - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> > > > > Scorpion - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> > > > > Ghost - splatter or gun
> > > > > Warthog (all) - splatter only
> > > > > Mantis - Anything
> > > > > Gungooses - Splatter or gunner. Not passenger
> > > > > Scouthog - Splatter. Not passenger.
> > > > > Mongoose - good luck!
> > > > > Phaeton - None
> > > > > Banshee - None
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, I can confirm that this is NOT true. You are correct that the turrets don’t count, but something else doesn’t count and I can’t figure it out. We track everyone’s individual stats in our company and our company stats and we cannot figure out a correlation at all. For example, in the last 24 hours we got 2168 of the above kills you have mentioned. However, our company commendation progress for Road Trip only went up 1598. Something big is missing like ghosts aren’t ground vehicles or something. I wish 343 would be a little bit more transparent or have any kind of actual support at all for that matter instead of people left guessing about everything on the forums all day.
> > >
> > >
> > > It’s not hard to figure out really what’s missing. Time consuming yes but just figure out which vehicle has the amount of kills missing and that’s the one that does not count
> >
> >
> > It’s harder than you think because the stats aren’t realtime. For example, you could have the company commendations update within 10 minutes, but the individuals can take 2 hours. It’s insane how poorly done their system is. So you have to take multiple samples over time. I’m going to try and do that and will report back.
>
>
> Sounds like an issue on your end? Idk, but I can see exactly what I did and how far I increased before my next game loads up. That’s why I thought it would just be time consuming
You’re missing the point. The company progress on halowaypoint is NOT realtime and the individual stats on halowaypoint are NOT realtime. I have automated tools that track all this information and I can promise you that with mounds and mounds of data. Your in-game commendations might update after each match, but that’s not what we’re talking about here. You have to rely on the halowaypoint stats to pull the data needed to do this analysis.
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> If i recall correctly…
> Ground Vehicle Kills = Only kills dealt by the driver.
>
> Wraith - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> Scorpion - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> Ghost - splatter or gun
> Warthog (all) - splatter only
> Mantis - Anything
> Gungooses - Splatter or gunner. Not passenger
> Scouthog - Splatter. Not passenger.
> Mongoose - good luck!
> Phaeton - None
> Banshee - None
This was helpful! Thanks!
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> > > > > > If i recall correctly…
> > > > > > Ground Vehicle Kills = Only kills dealt by the driver.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wraith - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> > > > > > Scorpion - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> > > > > > Ghost - splatter or gun
> > > > > > Warthog (all) - splatter only
> > > > > > Mantis - Anything
> > > > > > Gungooses - Splatter or gunner. Not passenger
> > > > > > Scouthog - Splatter. Not passenger.
> > > > > > Mongoose - good luck!
> > > > > > Phaeton - None
> > > > > > Banshee - None
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Unfortunately, I can confirm that this is NOT true. You are correct that the turrets don’t count, but something else doesn’t count and I can’t figure it out. We track everyone’s individual stats in our company and our company stats and we cannot figure out a correlation at all. For example, in the last 24 hours we got 2168 of the above kills you have mentioned. However, our company commendation progress for Road Trip only went up 1598. Something big is missing like ghosts aren’t ground vehicles or something. I wish 343 would be a little bit more transparent or have any kind of actual support at all for that matter instead of people left guessing about everything on the forums all day.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It’s not hard to figure out really what’s missing. Time consuming yes but just figure out which vehicle has the amount of kills missing and that’s the one that does not count
> > >
> > >
> > > It’s harder than you think because the stats aren’t realtime. For example, you could have the company commendations update within 10 minutes, but the individuals can take 2 hours. It’s insane how poorly done their system is. So you have to take multiple samples over time. I’m going to try and do that and will report back.
> >
> >
> > Sounds like an issue on your end? Idk, but I can see exactly what I did and how far I increased before my next game loads up. That’s why I thought it would just be time consuming
>
>
> You’re missing the point. The company progress on halowaypoint is NOT realtime and the individual stats on halowaypoint are NOT realtime. I have automated tools that track all this information and I can promise you that with mounds and mounds of data. Your in-game commendations might update after each match, but that’s not what we’re talking about here. You have to rely on the halowaypoint stats to pull the data needed to do this analysis.
So you have 2168 ground vehicles kills but you don’t have it grouped into which vehicles got which kills? All you have to do is take the data from that 24 hours and find the missing link. It’s just very time consuming. I wasn’t missing the point I was speaking from my experience. An waypoint updates, or did, the commendations real time. Do you not remember when whiskey first got the helmet? Ppl were on here for an hour saying how many kills they needed left after every match. How did they do that without it being real time? You think whiskey got the Helmet 1-2 hours before we all saw it on the company commendations. No because they were being updated within minutes of the match finishing. Unless the new waypoint update messed something up stats were real time
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> Hey guys,
I’m pretty sure I got matched with you recently. Your name seems familiar. But if you guys have an extra spot let me know, I’d be happy to help the grind cuz I need the whole set. I don’t care which one I get first.
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> > Hey guys,
>
>
> I’m pretty sure I got matched with you recently. Your name seems familiar. But if you guys have an extra spot let me know, I’d be happy to help the grind cuz I need the whole set. I don’t care which one I get first.
Yeah man, I’ll let you know if something opens up!
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> > > > > > 2533274808518583;10:
> > > > > > > 2533274894783242;3:
> > > > > > > If i recall correctly…
> > > > > > > Ground Vehicle Kills = Only kills dealt by the driver.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wraith - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> > > > > > > Scorpion - splatter or cannon. Not turret
> > > > > > > Ghost - splatter or gun
> > > > > > > Warthog (all) - splatter only
> > > > > > > Mantis - Anything
> > > > > > > Gungooses - Splatter or gunner. Not passenger
> > > > > > > Scouthog - Splatter. Not passenger.
> > > > > > > Mongoose - good luck!
> > > > > > > Phaeton - None
> > > > > > > Banshee - None
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unfortunately, I can confirm that this is NOT true. You are correct that the turrets don’t count, but something else doesn’t count and I can’t figure it out. We track everyone’s individual stats in our company and our company stats and we cannot figure out a correlation at all. For example, in the last 24 hours we got 2168 of the above kills you have mentioned. However, our company commendation progress for Road Trip only went up 1598. Something big is missing like ghosts aren’t ground vehicles or something. I wish 343 would be a little bit more transparent or have any kind of actual support at all for that matter instead of people left guessing about everything on the forums all day.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s not hard to figure out really what’s missing. Time consuming yes but just figure out which vehicle has the amount of kills missing and that’s the one that does not count
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It’s harder than you think because the stats aren’t realtime. For example, you could have the company commendations update within 10 minutes, but the individuals can take 2 hours. It’s insane how poorly done their system is. So you have to take multiple samples over time. I’m going to try and do that and will report back.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sounds like an issue on your end? Idk, but I can see exactly what I did and how far I increased before my next game loads up. That’s why I thought it would just be time consuming
> >
> >
> > You’re missing the point. The company progress on halowaypoint is NOT realtime and the individual stats on halowaypoint are NOT realtime. I have automated tools that track all this information and I can promise you that with mounds and mounds of data. Your in-game commendations might update after each match, but that’s not what we’re talking about here. You have to rely on the halowaypoint stats to pull the data needed to do this analysis.
>
>
> So you have 2168 ground vehicles kills but you don’t have it grouped into which vehicles got which kills? All you have to do is take the data from that 24 hours and find the missing link. It’s just very time consuming. I wasn’t missing the point I was speaking from my experience. An waypoint updates, or did, the commendations real time. Do you not remember when whiskey first got the helmet? Ppl were on here for an hour saying how many kills they needed left after every match. How did they do that without it being real time? You think whiskey got the Helmet 1-2 hours before we all saw it on the company commendations. No because they were being updated within minutes of the match finishing. Unless the new waypoint update messed something up stats were real time
I’ve kept track of my personal stats before and it updates right after the game. I often check waypoint to see my game stats while the next game is loading up. It’s as close to real time as you can get, and the companies stats work the same way. I’ve checked when I was the only one online and saw our number go up by exactly the amount of kills/headshots/whatever commendation I got. My guess would be that as stated above, either the ghost doesn’t count (which is stupid) or splatters don’t count as vehicle kills. Only when the actual vehicle emblem shows up on the left as the killing weapon does it count as a vehicle kill is what I think. So basically only the ghost gun, wraith cannon, scorpion cannon, Mantis gun and rockets, and gungoose cannons count. The warthog has no killing power without the splatter icon or turret icon so no kills with warthogs count IMO.
The company that I was in had this dilemma as well. I don’t remember what we figured out, but I think Surge is correct.
One thing we did was have someone make their own company and test out each vehicle to see what counted towards the commendation. It’s time consuming, but it would give you your answer.