What the heck is sprint?

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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Edit 3: If you do not like this thread, then don’t bump it. Seriously, if people stop posting, then this thread will die. That’s true with all sprint threads. Originally, I had something to do with asking for people’s help here, because apparently the Halo Waypoint Community “all know” what sprint is, and I’m in a minority of one. Well, I did give you the opportunity to prove that in this poll.

Edit: In a previous thread of mine, I received multiple messages from people arguing “The Halo community knows what sprint is” and “The dictionary definition does not matter.” I’ve been insulted and harassed by people who do not like what I’m saying or how I say it. Well, ok. people are like that. Whatever. Anyway, the point is that if the Halo community knows what it’s actually talking about when it uses the word sprint, then this poll should end up with a unanimous conclusion: sprint is thus, and really, should have done so 14 hours ago, rather than sitting at a near tie between two definitions for 10 hours.

I mean, I could point out that the Halo 5 Guardians page is to discuss the future of Halo, and that what’s in the Beta isn’t neccessarily exactly what we’ll get in the finished product. I could point out that people talk about past Halo games when talking about the future of Halo concerning sprint and other topics. I could point out that in Halo Spartan Assault, sprint does not fit one of the options on this poll. I could discuss the relationship between distance and time, and how Halo Reach and Halo 4’s “sprint” fits multiple options on this poll, as does Halo 5’s. But there’s no point. I’ve been repeatedly insulted for saying such things.

I’ve been checking this poll every so often over the last 14 hours–and have seen it fluctuate all over the place. If it takes this long for the Halo community to figure out what a definition “that everyone knows” is, then clearly, you don’t all know what it is, and I’m not dumb for asking the question. No wonder you’ve all been discussing sprint and getting nowhere for the last 10 years. Don’t mind me. I’m an outsider–a tourist. We get flak all the time for pointing out things that close-knit communities want to ignore.

Doom, Half-Life, Marathon, Super Mario Bros, Halo: Spartan Assault…how many games can you list that have a “sprint” which doesn’t fit the definition which was popularized by call of duty?

Btw, I’ve seen all of these poll options used by various people in threads about sprint on Halo Waypoint. I’m not joking.

If the Halo community can agree on the definition of sprint–*regardless of what it is–*then that’s one less problem out of the way for all of you who want to discuss sprint. Speaking from my experiences as an actual tourist/traveller, the worst arguments are pretty much always caused by simple misunderstandings as to what people actually mean.

Edit 2: Nope, well over a day later, and we still haven’t got a majority vote of what “sprint” means for the Halo community. Get that Call of Duty “sprint” over the 50% mark! Come on! You’re almost there!

Edit 4: So, I was just told by a friend that actually, with the Tier 2 perk Gung-Ho, players can now fire weapons from the hip whilst sprinting in Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, and that there’s no time-limit to sprinting anymore with the exo-suits they have. :frowning: Heck, why can’t Spartans shoot whilst sprinting, again? I forget…

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Basically its fast running in h5 that is unlimited, and you cant fire your weapon during it, and shields dont recharge during a sprint

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I really think this whole topic is irrelevant. From Halo: Reach to 5, people know what you mean when you say sprint, you are overcomplicating it. What does knowing what people define sprint as do for you?

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A mechanic which is toggleable(as in it is either “on” or “off”). While it is on you move at a speed that it faster than the base movement speed and you cannot fire your weapon.

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Post deleted. I’m wrong, guys. After repeated assertations that I’m an idiot, I now believe it. I’m sorry, The only thing I know I did was ramble on a bit about stuff I enjoy talking about in Halo, and ask for help when something confused me. I’m sorry to have caused you grief. I still don’t know what it was I did, but I apologize, and I’m wrong. I don’t get why, and you don’t have to explain–enough of you have ganged up to tell me that I’m an idiot that it must be the truth. gg.

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What the…? Wow…this is ridiculous. Why is everyone out to dissect sprint and spend countless hours on useless crap like this? “the definition of sprint?”

Jesus…all it comes down to, and will ever come down to, is if you like the mechanic that is handed to you in the current game. At the end of the day 343 can give you a 500% speed boost for 30 seconds when you press the start button. Sprint.

for the sake of peoples sanity, stop making these ridiculous forums that instigate flaming on each other over the definition of a word!

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Post deleted. I’m wrong, guys. After repeated assertations that I’m an idiot, I now believe it. I’m sorry, The only thing I know I did was ramble on a bit about stuff I enjoy talking about in Halo, and ask for help when something confused me. I’m sorry to have caused you grief. I still don’t know what it was I did, but I apologize, and I’m wrong. I don’t get why, and you don’t have to explain–enough of you have ganged up to tell me that I’m an idiot that it must be the truth. gg.

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> > What the…? Wow…this is ridiculous. Why is everyone out to dissect sprint and spend countless hours on useless crap like this? “the definition of sprint?”
> > Jesus…all it comes down to, and will ever come down to, is if you like the mechanic that is handed to you in the current game. At the end of the day 343 can give you a 500% speed boost for 30 seconds when you press the start button. Sprint.
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> Personally, I spent about five minutes making this thread, because I honestly don’t know what the Waypoint community thinks it means.
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> Judging from your post, your definition of sprint fits option 4: Whatever 343 industries says it means. The statistic for that option currently [at the time of writing] sits at 9% by the way.

oh dear…who do you think you are…seriously? All you do is condescend on to people.

how long did you spend on your other post replying and being an -Yoink- to people? Literally going in to physics for no apparent reason other than to look intelligent.

my serious answer to your poll? Option 1. Not that it matters as I quite like what 343 are doing (wether it fits the dictionary or not) and this ridiculous poll you’re doing will just vanish.

if I was a member of 343, i would look at this and scroll straight on thinking what an -Yoink-.

So many constructive posts on this site, with so much good to gain and there’s a chance they will longer in your shadow because of all your crap posts.

cheerio

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Well, i think sprint only should be in the campaign.

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> oh dear…who do you think you are…seriously? All you do is condescend on to people.
> how long did you spend on your other post replying and being an -Yoink- to people? Literally going in to physics for no apparent reason other than to look intelligent.
> my serious answer to your poll? Option 1. Not that it matters as I quite like what 343 are doing (wether it fits the dictionary or not) and this ridiculous poll you’re doing will just vanish.
> if I was a member of 343, i would look at this and scroll straight on thinking what an -Yoink-.
> So many constructive posts on this site, with so much good to gain and there’s a chance they will longer in your shadow because of all your crap posts.
> cheerio

I’m someone who is consistently being insulted by the Halo Waypoint community. As a result of my other thread, I realized that the definition of sprint I was using–the dictionary’s–did not match up with what other people thought. I don’t know what it means. How can I possibly be condescending to people if I it clear that I don’t know what it means, so I checked the dictionary, and according to you, I STILL don’t know what it means.

I’m sorry. I apologize. I don’t know what it is about my attitude which provokes you and other people like you, especially when I’m asking for your help.

I don’t think that you, or anyone on Halo Waypoint, is any less intelligent than I am. As far as I know, you’re more intelligent.

I’ll say it straight out: I remember starting to learn this sort of stuff in primary/elementary school, as a direct result of the compulsory education system. Taking a wild guess, I’d say that the average age of people on these forums is something like 30, so I really don’t know why you would think that talking about physics is a measure of a person’s intelligence.

There’s no ulterior motive here. I’m just someone who likes discussing how things work, amongst other topics of conversation. Did I offend you in some way, because I don’t know how–this is just how I am–online, and offline.

But this poll isn’t ridiculous anymore. Not asking the question is like a student in class sitting with their head down and being confused as to the subject material and then being afraid to put their hand up to ask for help. Judging by the fact that this poll isn’t anywhere near unanimous, other people are confused in addition to myself.

Oh, and I remember being that kid in class. So stop trying to make me out as being some I-am-greater-than-thou --yoink–, because I don’t think that way.

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> So, as of this post, we have 56% of people adhering to option 1, 11% of people adhering to option 2, 22% of people adhering to option 3, and 11% of people adhering to option 4. No takers for "none of the above."

So, this is how you decided to solve your issue? I’m still going to wait for the poll to grow. What I assume can’t be more than 20 people (at the time of this response) is hardly a sample. Even then, I doubt these people are putting much thought in their response. I mean, if you assume option 1 as the definition, it follows that every game every game ever made, where the player moves a character with feet, has sprint. Now, if you were to ask that 56% separately: “does Halo 3 have sprint?”, how many do you think would response positively? I doubt any of them would say yes, despite just defining that Halo 3 has sprint.

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Option 1 is the correct answer, however since option 3 is the video game “balanced” answer, I chose that since I assumed this specifically was talking about what it should be in games

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Yes. This is how I decided to solve the issue. If the majority of the people who answer this poll select one definition over the other, then I will at the very least, know what the community usually means when they talk about sprint, and I will no longer be confused. I appreciate your help on this issue.

And no, option 1 doesn’t mean that. A short distance also means a short time, with sprint. That’s in the dictionary, too, and follows the velocity=distance/time formula. In Halo 3, you weren’t restricted to a “short” distance or time with running, so Halo 3 still didn’t have sprint according to that definition.

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> I really think this whole topic is irrelevant. From Halo: Reach to 5, people know what you mean when you say sprint, you are overcomplicating it. What does knowing what people define sprint as do for you?

this guy got it right.

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> > oh dear…who do you think you are…seriously? All you do is condescend on to people.
> > how long did you spend on your other post replying and being an -Yoink- to people? Literally going in to physics for no apparent reason other than to look intelligent.
> > my serious answer to your poll? Option 1. Not that it matters as I quite like what 343 are doing (wether it fits the dictionary or not) and this ridiculous poll you’re doing will just vanish.
> > if I was a member of 343, i would look at this and scroll straight on thinking what an -Yoink-.
> > So many constructive posts on this site, with so much good to gain and there’s a chance they will longer in your shadow because of all your crap posts.
> > cheerio
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> I’m someone who is consistently being insulted by the Halo Waypoint community. As a result of my other thread, I realized that the definition of sprint I was using–the dictionary’s–did not match up with what other people thought. I don’t know what it means. How can I possibly be condescending to people if I it clear that I don’t know what it means, so I checked the dictionary, and according to you, I STILL don’t know what it means.
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> I’m sorry. I apologize. I don’t know what it is about my attitude which provokes you and other people like you, especially when I’m asking for your help.
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> I don’t think that you, or anyone on Halo Waypoint, is any less intelligent than I am. As far as I know, you’re more intelligent.
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> I’ll say it straight out: I remember starting to learn this sort of stuff in primary/elementary school, as a direct result of the compulsory education system. Taking a wild guess, I’d say that the average age of people on these forums is something like 30, so I really don’t know why you would think that talking about physics is a measure of a person’s intelligence.
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> There’s no ulterior motive here. I’m just someone who likes discussing how things work, amongst other topics of conversation. Did I offend you in some way, because I don’t know how–this is just how I am–online, and offline.
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> But this poll isn’t ridiculous anymore. Not asking the question is like a student in class sitting with their head down and being confused as to the subject material and then being afraid to put their hand up to ask for help. Judging by the fact that this poll isn’t anywhere near unanimous, other people are confused in addition to myself.
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> Oh, and I remember being that kid in class. So stop trying to make me out as being some I-am-greater-than-thou --yoink–, because I don’t think that way.

Overcomplicating is exactly what you’re doing here. This constant switching out of conversation to something irrelevant is like that lawyer on south park who use the “Chewbacca defense” IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

you, I and everyone else know what sprint is. Wether its the reach version, the 4 version or the COD version. If people are talking about sprint on a halo 5 forum, then the chances are that they are referring to the halo 5 sprint mechanic. And if not? Then its their own fault for not stating otherwise.

now please, you make some really good points, but they’re exceedingly hard to find amongst all the other stuff you’re going on about.

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> And no, option 1 doesn’t mean that. A short distance also means a short time, with sprint. That’s in the dictionary, too, and follows the velocity=distance/time formula. In Halo 3, you weren’t restricted to a “short” distance or time with running, so Halo 3 still didn’t have sprint according to that definition.

The thing is, that definition doesn’t say anything about the maximum distance you can run. All it says is that if you can run a short distance at full speed, you can sprint. There’s absolutely nothing in there to exclude the possibility of also running longer distance.

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> Overcomplicating is exactly what you’re doing here. This constant switching out of conversation to something irrelevant is like that lawyer on south park who use the “Chewbacca defense” IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
> you, I and everyone else know what sprint is. Wether its the reach version, the 4 version or the COD version. If people are talking about sprint on a halo 5 forum, then the chances are that they are referring to the halo 5 sprint mechanic. And if not? Then its their own fault for not stating otherwise.
> now please, you make some really good points, but they’re exceedingly hard to find amongst all the other stuff you’re going on about.

Please take a look at the poll results at present, and then back to your statement I highlighted, I don’t understand where you’re coming from with that statement.

Look mate. I felt insulted with the: “crap posts,” and the “oh dear…who do you think you are…seriously? All you do is condescend on to people.” comments you made. A good chunk of my response to you was related to how I don’t think those statements are justified. That’s what I do when I’m insulted. I don’t insult people back, I try and find out what the issue they have is–because if I find that out, maybe I can fix it.

Yeah, when I’m concise, people just laugh, because they think my statements are riddled with holes. When I construct an argument which tries to eliminate those weaknesses before people can point them out, people complain that my arguments are too long. Sometimes, on the other hand, people are actually appreciative of that type of argument. So…shrugs.

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Take a look at that statement you made. And yes, it does exclude that possiblity, because if you specify the velocity and specify the time, then you can work out the distance you can run. This is a linear equation. You plug in two values, you only get one result for the third.

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“To run at full speed over a short distance” is what you wrote. That is all the definition says. It does not specify “a short distance”. It does not state the “short distance” has to be the maximum distance possible. All it states is that if you can run at full speed for a short distance, you can sprint. That’s all there is to it.

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> > Overcomplicating is exactly what you’re doing here. This constant switching out of conversation to something irrelevant is like that lawyer on south park who use the “Chewbacca defense” IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
> > you, I and everyone else know what sprint is. Wether its the reach version, the 4 version or the COD version. If people are talking about sprint on a halo 5 forum, then the chances are that they are referring to the halo 5 sprint mechanic. And if not? Then its their own fault for not stating otherwise.
> > now please, you make some really good points, but they’re exceedingly hard to find amongst all the other stuff you’re going on about.
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> Please take a look at the poll results at present, and then back to your statement I highlighted, I don’t understand where you’re coming from with that statement.
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> Look mate. I felt insulted with the: “crap posts,” and the “oh dear…who do you think you are…seriously? All you do is condescend on to people.” comments you made. A good chunk of my response to you was related to how I don’t think those statements are justified. That’s what I do when I’m insulted. I don’t insult people back, I try and find out what the issue they have is–because if I find that out, maybe I can fix it.
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> Yeah, when I’m concise, people just laugh, because they think my statements are riddled with holes. When I construct an argument which tries to eliminate those weaknesses before people can point them out, people complain that my arguments are too long. Sometimes, on the other hand, people are actually appreciative of that type of argument. So…shrugs

OK, with this poll you are giving people the freedom to choose their own definition. When you are talking about halo 5’s sprint they will be referring to that particular sprint mechanic.

you’re asking what sprint is but you already know? You know what the halo 4 sprint mechanic is. You know what the halo 5 sprint mechanic is. You are now asking people what the general meaning for sprint is and I dont understand why? If everyone chooses option 1 then what difference does it make? That maybe be true to real life but halo is s game, and in halo 5 we sprint/run/fly whatever you want to call it for an unlimited amount of time, until shot. Shields also will not recharge.

I guess what I’m trying to say is, I dont understand what you are doing? We DO all know what sprint is in regards to the context we are in. If we’re talking halo 5 we’re talking no shield recharge etc. If halo 4 then its similar to other fps games such as Battlefield. You are getting mixed poll results simply because there is more than one answer. ask people what a Spartan is on a halo forum, then go to a history forum and ask what a Spartan is.

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Taken from this source: Sprint DefinitionWhen used as a verb: run at full speed over a short distance.
When used as a noun: an act or short spell of running at full speed.

Actually, the definition says “to run at full speed over a short distance,” therefore if the distance is not “short,” then it isn’t sprint. Likewise, if the “an act or short spell of running at full speed” is used, then if the time is not “short” then it is not sprint, and if the speed is not “maximum” it is not sprint,

Speed = distance/time. Specify any two of the variables, and you only get one result for the third. I’m still not quite sure what or why you don’t understand what the dictionary definition means. It’s not a case of “you can sprint if you do this” it’s a case of “you only sprint when you do this.”