So i was searching with onyx/champs won 6/10 games and got placed diamond 5. When i played Doubles i won 10/10 and got placed in Onyx.
It isnt a percentage, it is who you play against. If the games you lost were to people in onyx, and the games you won were against people in low onyx or high diamond, you would be placed in low onyx or high diamond. You also have to take your individual performance into account for the qualifying matches. How did you compare to your own team? These are all factors you have to consider
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> It isnt a percentage, it is who you play against. If the games you lost were to people in onyx, and the games you won were against people in low onyx or high diamond, you would be placed in low onyx or high diamond. You also have to take your individual performance into account for the qualifying matches. How did you compare to your own team? These are all factors you have to consider
i did decent nothing amazing but i thought it was all based on win loss
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It is not, it takes into account who you play. Even on your own you can get into onyx, you just have to dominate in your qualifiers, so that by the sixth or seventh one you are playing against onyx players. I don’t remember where I saw the quote (I think it was a community update) but a rep said that individual performance matters more in the qualifiers
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i played against onyx and champs in all my placements won 6/10
I can’t tell which games are after you ranked, and which ones are before, and I also don’t know how objectives factor into it, since I mostly play swat. But there was one game where you had a negative K/D, and no flag captures. Might be why you got knocked down. You are high diamond though, so it shouldn’t be too tough to move up.
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> I can’t tell which games are after you ranked, and which ones are before, and I also don’t know how objectives factor into it, since I mostly play swat. But there was one game where you had a negative K/D, and no flag captures. Might be why you got knocked down. You are high diamond though, so it shouldn’t be too tough to move up.
In game history it shows what rank you were in that game you played. I wonder what they take into account though towards ranking. Maybe KDA or something also.
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I’m not sure about that, i’ve seen people getting placed onyx 1700 (highest you can get placed after qualifiers i think) with a negative kda, died alot more than killed, and lost 8 out of 10 qualifiers. Somebody explain me the logic behind this, especially we knowing that it has nothing to do with the winrate.
Basically, if you can hang with Onyx players, you’ll place or make your way there eventually… the game knows to a certain degree, but you still have to perform.
Smurfs overcomplicate things though…
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> > > > It isnt a percentage, it is who you play against. If the games you lost were to people in onyx, and the games you won were against people in low onyx or high diamond, you would be placed in low onyx or high diamond. You also have to take your individual performance into account for the qualifying matches. How did you compare to your own team? These are all factors you have to consider
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> I’m not sure about that, i’ve seen people getting placed onyx 1700 (highest you can get placed after qualifiers i think) with a negative kda, died alot more than killed, and lost 8 out of 10 qualifiers. Somebody explain me the logic behind this, especially we knowing that it has nothing to do with the winrate.
Most logical explanation would be that you won against quite high ranked players and lost to even higher ranked players.
Small example.
Win against bronze
Lose to gold
placed silver.
Simplified of course.
Keep in mind that previous ranking somewhat carries over as well unless they ditched that stuff.
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> > > It is not, it takes into account who you play. Even on your own you can get into onyx, you just have to dominate in your qualifiers, so that by the sixth or seventh one you are playing against onyx players. I don’t remember where I saw the quote (I think it was a community update) but a rep said that individual performance matters more in the qualifiers
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> Simplified of course.
> Keep in mind that previous ranking somewhat carries over as well unless they ditched that stuff.
Don’t make the bk play against very high ranked players only then lol, one time he is eventually going to win because of his teammates and/or whatever reason. It’s just going to make him look stupid, playing like garbage but rewarding him for it, and the worst part is that he has no influence on who he is going to play against in the qualifiers.
So it all comes down to him (speaking of no particular person as i’ve seen several players like that) getting high ranked while we (some people that i know that are just pretty good) have to work our -Yoinks!- off only to get -Yoinking!- ranked plat 6 or mid diamond. This is not right.
I don’t think there is a way to convince me that this ranking system is good, its trash. I’d rather have my 1-50 back and work my way up, derankers are a problem yes but so are smurfs and people getting boosted i couldn’t care less about, if it’s not your legit rank you’re getting destroyed anyway.
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> > > > It is not, it takes into account who you play. Even on your own you can get into onyx, you just have to dominate in your qualifiers, so that by the sixth or seventh one you are playing against onyx players. I don’t remember where I saw the quote (I think it was a community update) but a rep said that individual performance matters more in the qualifiers
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> > > I’m not sure about that, i’ve seen people getting placed onyx 1700 (highest you can get placed after qualifiers i think) with a negative kda, died alot more than killed, and lost 8 out of 10 qualifiers. Somebody explain me the logic behind this, especially we knowing that it has nothing to do with the winrate.
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> Don’t make the bk play against very high ranked players only then lol, one time he is eventually going to win because of his teammates and/or whatever reason. It’s just going to make him look stupid, playing like garbage but rewarding him for it, and the worst part is that he has no influence on who he is going to play against in the qualifiers.
> So it all comes down to him (speaking of no particular person as i’ve seen several players like that) getting high ranked while we (some people that i know that are just pretty good) have to work our -Yoinks!- off only to get -Yoinking!- ranked plat 6 or mid diamond. This is not right.
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> I don’t think there is a way to convince me that this ranking system is good, its trash. I’d rather have my 1-50 back and work my way up, derankers are a problem yes but so are smurfs and people getting boosted i couldn’t care less about, if it’s not your legit rank you’re getting destroyed anyway.
But the 1-50 system defeats the point of the ranking system. The ranking system is to ensure that you play against people of your skill level. (Not so that people can be proud of their accomplishment of being a 50.) People who are in the bottom tiers like 1-5 will have to play against players who are far better than them fairly frequently as people pass through, this issue persists throughout almost the entire system (with the severity decreasing as skill level increases of course.) This system, when implemented properly, is far and away the better system
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> So it all comes down to him (speaking of no particular person as i’ve seen several players like that) getting high ranked while we (some people that i know that are just pretty good) have to work our -Yoinks!- off only to get -Yoinking!- ranked plat 6 or mid diamond. This is not right.
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> I don’t think there is a way to convince me that this ranking system is good, its trash. I’d rather have my 1-50 back and work my way up, derankers are a problem yes but so are smurfs and people getting boosted i couldn’t care less about, if it’s not your legit rank you’re getting destroyed anyway.
How respectful.
The mathmaking system is not the ranking system. Who you match with and against is entirely up to the matchmsking, it just use your trueskill as an indicator of what kind of players you should match.
Your ranking is altered based on whatever it’s based on the end of a match.
Mathing players together isn’t the easiest thing because you have two factors to take into account and an additional aspect that impact the two, search time, team balance and population. The higher the population the lower the search time is with a higher team balance. With a low population you have to start balancing search time and team balance, the better balance you want the longer the search time is going to be, and the shorter search time you want the worse the team balance is going to be.
If a player is fortunate enough to with a few placement matches get placed too high, that plsyer will with continued playing get pushed down to his/her right skill ranking, anyone unfortunate enough to get ranked low will with enough matches climb to his/her right spot. No matter if it is 1-50 or this skill ranking system.
You don’t care about people getting boosted in the 1-50 system but complain about the exact same effect some may experience in the placement matches?
Seasons should be longer
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Kda and win rate matter, but everything is cumulative. I you play a ton at onyx level and say you finish your second season of onyx at 2000, you could probably lose every placement game and still place onyx.
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I won 4/10 in swat with a .9 kda and placed Onyx 1700 … i wonder if its cus no one plays swat. I played the same people every game.
It seems to vary. I just won 7/10 of my placement matches in team slayer and got platinum 4. On my second account, I won 7/10 placement matches in FFA last month (I came in the top half 8/10 times) with a 1.7 K/D and barely even placed in diamond. I played almost exclusively onyx and mid-high diamond players. And every time I’ve placed in SWAT, I’ve gotten at least a platinum 3 ranking, regardless of my performance.
I thought it had to do with your placement in previous seasons, but I bombed my slayer placement last season, got in mid-gold, and still placed in platinum this time around.
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KDA certainly doesn’t matter, this season I got an Onyx With a negative KDA. I joke with my friends about being the worst Onyx online.