I personally love 343. They created this amazing game, yet a lot of people hate them and this game. What’s up with this? And sure, the campaign may not be the greatest one out there, but does that make this a terrible game?
343 is one of the most community based game design companies that I know of. It seems nobody looks at the good things and looks at the very few bad things.
And calling me names for liking them is not a valid answer.
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> I personally love 343. They created this amazing game, yet a lot of people hate them and this game. What’s up with this? And sure, the campaign may not be the greatest one out there, but does that make this a terrible game?
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> 343 is one of the most community based game design companies that I know of. It seems nobody looks at the good things and looks at the very few bad things.
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> And calling me names for liking them is not a valid answer.
Most of it stems from decisions that people dislike, such as the art style changes, gameplay decisions, and the general lack of content at Halo 5. There was also that whole thing surrounding MCC’s launch…
Main reasons… Botch of MCC (took them way to long to make work/stable and didn’t quite deliver on what was said the game could do). Bare bones launch of H5 and it took to long to add stuff that should have been there at launch. The campaign not matching any of advertising/build up and cliched plot… They deserve some well most of the hate they get IMO. I could elaborate more but it’s beating a dead horse at this point really.
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> Main reasons… Botch of MCC (took them way to long to make work/stable and didn’t quite deliver on what was said the game could do). Bare bones launch of H5 and it took to long to add stuff that should have been there at launch. The campaign not matching any of advertising/build up and cliched plot… They deserve some well most of the hate they get IMO. I could elaborate more but it’s beating a dead horse at this point really.
Once again, halo 5 is not terrible just because the campaign wasn’t too great. The reason they didn’t add a bunch of stuff in at launch is because of marketing; a very smart move in my opinion.
I don’t hate them, and have never really posted too many negative things about them; I do have a lot a disappointment in them at times. It’s starts all the way back in Reach with how they dealt with the Bloom situation after they took over matchmaking for Reach. Then Halo 4, I liked it and played the -Yoink- out of it, but really with the whole GDC handicap Spartan controversy?! That kind of sent me over the edge a bit.
MCC…dude, that was a sad, sad year or so dealing with that. Now Halo 5 and Warzone with Req’s…I don’t want to go into too much it does just kind of make me mad and sad all at the same time. I keep plugging along though with only my love for Halo to keep me interested.
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> > I personally love 343. They created this amazing game, yet a lot of people hate them and this game. What’s up with this? And sure, the campaign may not be the greatest one out there, but does that make this a terrible game?
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> > 343 is one of the most community based game design companies that I know of. It seems nobody looks at the good things and looks at the very few bad things.
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> > And calling me names for liking them is not a valid answer.
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> Most of it stems from decisions that people dislike, such as the art style changes, gameplay decisions, and the general lack of content at Halo 5. There was also that whole thing surrounding MCC’s launch…
This is not a good reason to hate 343, and I’m pretty sure that, being a new company taking on the legacy of an older one, they are still getting used to this. We have a lot to look forward to in halo 6, and hopefully this will clear their name among those who hate them.
Also, what is this thing surrounding MCC’s Launch? Please elaborate, I have not seen this before…
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> I don’t hate them, and have never really posted too many negative things about them; I do have a lot a disappointment in them at times. It’s starts all the way back in Reach with how they dealt with the Bloom situation after they took over matchmaking for Reach. Then Halo 4, I liked it and played the -Yoink- out of it, but really with the whole GDC handicap Spartan controversy?! That kind of sent me over the edge a bit.
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> MCC…dude, that was a sad, sad year or so dealing with that. Now Halo 5 and Warzone with Req’s…I don’t want to go into too much it does just kind of make me mad and sad all at the same time. I keep plugging along though with only my love for Halo to keep me interested.
I like the REQs and warzone, why do you not? And if you do not like it, you don’t have to play it.
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> > > I personally love 343. They created this amazing game, yet a lot of people hate them and this game. What’s up with this? And sure, the campaign may not be the greatest one out there, but does that make this a terrible game?
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> > > 343 is one of the most community based game design companies that I know of. It seems nobody looks at the good things and looks at the very few bad things.
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> > > And calling me names for liking them is not a valid answer.
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> > Most of it stems from decisions that people dislike, such as the art style changes, gameplay decisions, and the general lack of content at Halo 5. There was also that whole thing surrounding MCC’s launch…
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> This is not a good reason to hate 343, and I’m pretty sure that, being a new company taking on the legacy of an older one, they are still getting used to this. We have a lot to look forward to in halo 6, and hopefully this will clear their name among those who hate them.
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> Also, what is this thing surrounding MCC’s Launch? Please elaborate, I have not seen this before…
MCC launched essentially broken. Players were unable to find games in matchmaking, and those that did find games found the matches glitchy.
Mostly it comes down to people that hate change, personally I love Halo MCC and Halo 5 but there are a number of problems which basically come down to.
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> > > I personally love 343. They created this amazing game, yet a lot of people hate them and this game. What’s up with this? And sure, the campaign may not be the greatest one out there, but does that make this a terrible game?
> > >
> > > 343 is one of the most community based game design companies that I know of. It seems nobody looks at the good things and looks at the very few bad things.
> > >
> > > And calling me names for liking them is not a valid answer.
> >
> > Most of it stems from decisions that people dislike, such as the art style changes, gameplay decisions, and the general lack of content at Halo 5. There was also that whole thing surrounding MCC’s launch…
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> This is not a good reason to hate 343, and I’m pretty sure that, being a new company taking on the legacy of an older one, they are still getting used to this. We have a lot to look forward to in halo 6, and hopefully this will clear their name among those who hate them.
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> Also, what is this thing surrounding MCC’s Launch? Please elaborate, I have not seen this before…
…Disliking or disagreeing with their decisions seems like a pretty good reason to hate 343. While it is true that they are a relatively new company, they already had a lot of stuff to use as a reference when making their games.
As for MCC’s launch… well, I wasn’t there for it, but, from what I’ve heard, it was a disaster. Not sure exactly what made it a disaster, but I believe it had something to do with pretty much all of the online functions. And there continue to be some problems with it today…
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> > I don’t hate them, and have never really posted too many negative things about them; I do have a lot a disappointment in them at times. It’s starts all the way back in Reach with how they dealt with the Bloom situation after they took over matchmaking for Reach. Then Halo 4, I liked it and played the -Yoink- out of it, but really with the whole GDC handicap Spartan controversy?! That kind of sent me over the edge a bit.
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> > MCC…dude, that was a sad, sad year or so dealing with that. Now Halo 5 and Warzone with Req’s…I don’t want to go into too much it does just kind of make me mad and sad all at the same time. I keep plugging along though with only my love for Halo to keep me interested.
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> I like the REQs and warzone, why do you not? And if you do not like it, you don’t have to play it.
Well thank you for that amazing insight. Damn it! This whole time I have been playing Warzone, not liking it, and I didn’t realize until your post I didn’t have to play it.
Seriously dude?! You say just because you like 343 we shouldn’t call you names. Well how about coming up with something other than, “Don’t like it don’t play it.”
You also know what I didn’t like? Halo 4’s Ordnance Drops, and I played with them, a lot, but I also expressed my disdain for them on these forums like a lot of other people did. You know what happened? No more Ordnance Drops.
I don’t like Warzone because I like equal starts to matches, and I don’t play it all that much either. Most of my time is in Arena and Firefight.
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> > Main reasons… Botch of MCC (took them way to long to make work/stable and didn’t quite deliver on what was said the game could do). Bare bones launch of H5 and it took to long to add stuff that should have been there at launch. The campaign not matching any of advertising/build up and cliched plot… They deserve some well most of the hate they get IMO. I could elaborate more but it’s beating a dead horse at this point really.
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> Once again, halo 5 is not terrible just because the campaign wasn’t too great. The reason they didn’t add a bunch of stuff in at launch is because of marketing; a very smart move in my opinion.
You clearly weren’t hear at launch or have a low standard of what a good game should have at launch. H5 is a good game IMO, but was a very lack luster at launch. Very bad in gaming as if you don’t put your best foot forward and wow players at launch they will quickly lose interest as they did with H5.
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> > > Main reasons… Botch of MCC (took them way to long to make work/stable and didn’t quite deliver on what was said the game could do). Bare bones launch of H5 and it took to long to add stuff that should have been there at launch. The campaign not matching any of advertising/build up and cliched plot… They deserve some well most of the hate they get IMO. I could elaborate more but it’s beating a dead horse at this point really.
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> > Once again, halo 5 is not terrible just because the campaign wasn’t too great. The reason they didn’t add a bunch of stuff in at launch is because of marketing; a very smart move in my opinion.
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> You clearly weren’t hear at launch or have a low standard of what a good game should have at launch. H5 is a good game IMO, but was a very lack luster at launch. Very bad in gaming as if you don’t put your best foot forward and wow players at launch they will quickly lose interest as they did with H5.
I was here at launch actually, and IMO halo 5 is a lot better than other games. I like the way it plays, and the control feel for it.
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> I personally love 343. They created this amazing game, yet a lot of people hate them and this game. What’s up with this? And sure, the campaign may not be the greatest one out there, but does that make this a terrible game?
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> 343 is one of the most community based game design companies that I know of. It seems nobody looks at the good things and looks at the very few bad things.
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> And calling me names for liking them is not a valid answer.
Because they made a lot of mistakes since they’ve taken over, and I do mean a *lot.**of. mistakes.*Halo 4 doubled down on all the mistakes Halo: Reach made, despite being the one who fixed Halo Reach in the first place. The multiplayer was a clear incentive to grab Call of Duty players, and miss even the most basic features for 6 months. Don’t forget their 14 Day Buy and Play mistake. Spartan Ops was badly written, Requiem was hurled into the sun because Brian Reed didn’t know what to do with it.
MCC is a whole problem in itself. The game literally didn’t work.
Halo 5 had a Campaign that took everything from Halo 4’s Campaign and threw it in the trash for a cliche “plot twist” that no one wanted in the first place using the same writer that wrote Spartan Ops that didn’t make no sense in the first place. And then when people voiced their problems with Cortana coming back and how it blatantly makes no sense, we’re told “Cortana’s not evil, we just don’t understand.”
Halo 5’s multiplayer finally went back to equal starts and left Loadouts the past two games had, but still kept Sprint because it’s the new trend in video games. Couldn’t even provide a good gameplay reason.
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> The reason they didn’t add a bunch of stuff in at launch is because of marketing; a very smart move in my opinion.
You can try to spin that tale as much as you want, but at the end of the day, it was because they didn’t have enough time to work on it, and no one would dare shoot themselves in the foot to make entire playlists paid DLC. Forge didn’t make it at launch. BTB didn’t make it at launch. That spun more negative views than anything.
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> I like the REQs and warzone, why do you not? And if you do not like it, you don’t have to play it.
Because that’s not how REQs work. You can choose not to play Warzone, but then opening REQ packs take much longer because Arena gives you less RP than Warzone does. Well why would you open REQ packs if not for Warzone? Because all the customization takes place within REQ packs, and the only way to get the cosmetics you want is to wade through the Warzone-specific cards to get through to them.
Sure thats plenty of reason to dislike 343i
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> > > I don’t hate them, and have never really posted too many negative things about them; I do have a lot a disappointment in them at times. It’s starts all the way back in Reach with how they dealt with the Bloom situation after they took over matchmaking for Reach. Then Halo 4, I liked it and played the -Yoink- out of it, but really with the whole GDC handicap Spartan controversy?! That kind of sent me over the edge a bit.
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> > > MCC…dude, that was a sad, sad year or so dealing with that. Now Halo 5 and Warzone with Req’s…I don’t want to go into too much it does just kind of make me mad and sad all at the same time. I keep plugging along though with only my love for Halo to keep me interested.
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> > I like the REQs and warzone, why do you not? And if you do not like it, you don’t have to play it.
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> Well thank you for that amazing insight. Damn it! This whole time I have been playing Warzone, not liking it, and I didn’t realize until your post I didn’t have to play it.
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> Seriously dude?! You say just because you like 343 we shouldn’t call you names. Well how about coming up with something other than, “Don’t like it don’t play it.”
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> You also know what I didn’t like? Halo 4’s Ordnance Drops, and I played with them, a lot, but I also expressed my disdain for them on these forums like a lot of other people did. You know what happened? No more Ordnance Drops.
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> I don’t like Warzone because I like equal starts to matches, and I don’t play it all that much either. Most of my time is in Arena and Firefight.
That first part lol knew I was gonna get something like that
It is true that 343 could do something about matching with similar skill level players, but warzone is pretty fun… you should probably play it more to get a better opinion.
And unequal match starts have to do with your team being terrible, and you deal with it and do the best you can. I am a solo player myself (most of the time, but on rare occasions I will have one friend to play with) and I still find warzone to be fun, despite the sometimes unequal match starts.
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> > I personally love 343. They created this amazing game, yet a lot of people hate them and this game. What’s up with this? And sure, the campaign may not be the greatest one out there, but does that make this a terrible game?
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> > 343 is one of the most community based game design companies that I know of. It seems nobody looks at the good things and looks at the very few bad things.
> >
> > And calling me names for liking them is not a valid answer.
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> Because they made a lot of mistakes since they’ve taken over, and I do mean a *lot.**of. mistakes.*Halo 4 doubled down on all the mistakes Halo: Reach made, despite being the one who fixed Halo Reach in the first place. The multiplayer was a clear incentive to grab Call of Duty players, and miss even the most basic features for 6 months. Don’t forget their 14 Day Buy and Play mistake. Spartan Ops was badly written, Requiem was hurled into the sun because Brian Reed didn’t know what to do with it.
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> MCC is a whole problem in itself. The game literally didn’t work.
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> Halo 5 had a Campaign that took everything from Halo 4’s Campaign and threw it in the trash for a cliche “plot twist” that no one wanted in the first place using the same writer that wrote Spartan Ops that didn’t make no sense in the first place. And then when people voiced their problems with Cortana coming back and how it blatantly makes no sense, we’re told “Cortana’s not evil, we just don’t understand.”
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> Halo 5’s multiplayer finally went back to equal starts and left Loadouts the past two games had, but still kept Sprint because it’s the new trend in video games. Couldn’t even provide a good gameplay reason.
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> > The reason they didn’t add a bunch of stuff in at launch is because of marketing; a very smart move in my opinion.
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> You can try to spin that tale as much as you want, but at the end of the day, it was because they didn’t have enough time to work on it, and no one would dare shoot themselves in the foot to make entire playlists paid DLC. Forge didn’t make it at launch. BTB didn’t make it at launch. That spun more negative views than anything.
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> > I like the REQs and warzone, why do you not? And if you do not like it, you don’t have to play it.
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> Because that’s not how REQs work. You can choose not to play Warzone, but then opening REQ packs take much longer because Arena gives you less RP than Warzone does. Well why would you open REQ packs if not for Warzone? Because all the customization takes place within REQ packs, and the only way to get the cosmetics you want is to wade through the Warzone-specific cards to get through to them.
BTB provides the same amount of req points. And the reason warzone gives so much rp is because it takes so long. And you can sell REQs if you really want.
I like getting things sloooooooooooowly. It makes the game more fun. I don’t like getting anything easily. there is no challenge, and you take it for granted. So I don’t have a problem with getting customizations slowly.
343’s decisions with H5 have always been either lackluster or borderline incompetent. The content from launch was the worst in years with about 7 multiplayer modes and only a handful of maps to play with them. As the game progressed, the map pool mainly began to increase with map remixes, not actually different maps. Hilariously, none of the new arena maps are good enough to be put into pro gameplay, so we’re still stuck with the initial map pool from launch. BTB was not a priority compared to war zone, resorting 343 to only use handpicked forge maps in the game mode, and even so, there’s been a lot of controversy in the discretion of the map selection process within the forge community and how little community interaction it gets, at least in the public’s eyes.
Arena’s HCS game mode (or team arena back then) was stuck with horrific game settings for at least a year with barely any improvements on the weapon sandbox or general gameplay during that time. Even so, the gameplay was doomed from the start for competitive play with all these Spartan abilities that have disregarded Halo’s core gameplay from the original trilogy. And because of the limited number of modes to play on, we’ve been stuck with team slayer, strongholds, and CTF for the entire life span of H5.
Let’s not forget our incompetent team organizer, ESL, responsible for some of the worst halo events in our lifetime. Remember HWC 2017? That entire event, which has been made into a meme, is because of ESL and their horrific management of the pro circuit. Technological issues when viewing the game know no bounds with that company, and 343 will likely not break their ties with ESL, unfortunately.
There are more things that could be talked about, but that’s all I’ll say until you respond.
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> > > I personally love 343. They created this amazing game, yet a lot of people hate them and this game. What’s up with this? And sure, the campaign may not be the greatest one out there, but does that make this a terrible game?
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> > > 343 is one of the most community based game design companies that I know of. It seems nobody looks at the good things and looks at the very few bad things.
> > >
> > > And calling me names for liking them is not a valid answer.
> >
> > Because they made a lot of mistakes since they’ve taken over, and I do mean a *lot.**of. mistakes.*Halo 4 doubled down on all the mistakes Halo: Reach made, despite being the one who fixed Halo Reach in the first place. The multiplayer was a clear incentive to grab Call of Duty players, and miss even the most basic features for 6 months. Don’t forget their 14 Day Buy and Play mistake. Spartan Ops was badly written, Requiem was hurled into the sun because Brian Reed didn’t know what to do with it.
> >
> > MCC is a whole problem in itself. The game literally didn’t work.
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> > Halo 5 had a Campaign that took everything from Halo 4’s Campaign and threw it in the trash for a cliche “plot twist” that no one wanted in the first place using the same writer that wrote Spartan Ops that didn’t make no sense in the first place. And then when people voiced their problems with Cortana coming back and how it blatantly makes no sense, we’re told “Cortana’s not evil, we just don’t understand.”
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> > Halo 5’s multiplayer finally went back to equal starts and left Loadouts the past two games had, but still kept Sprint because it’s the new trend in video games. Couldn’t even provide a good gameplay reason.
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> > > The reason they didn’t add a bunch of stuff in at launch is because of marketing; a very smart move in my opinion.
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> > You can try to spin that tale as much as you want, but at the end of the day, it was because they didn’t have enough time to work on it, and no one would dare shoot themselves in the foot to make entire playlists paid DLC. Forge didn’t make it at launch. BTB didn’t make it at launch. That spun more negative views than anything.
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> > > I like the REQs and warzone, why do you not? And if you do not like it, you don’t have to play it.
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> > Because that’s not how REQs work. You can choose not to play Warzone, but then opening REQ packs take much longer because Arena gives you less RP than Warzone does. Well why would you open REQ packs if not for Warzone? Because all the customization takes place within REQ packs, and the only way to get the cosmetics you want is to wade through the Warzone-specific cards to get through to them.
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> BTB provides the same amount of req points. And the reason warzone gives so much rp is because it takes so long.
Out of that entire post you sure picked the least impactful thing in the game.
Not all Warzone games take very long. At worst it takes like 20 minutes. And even then, there’s Warzone Firefight games, which you can pull down to 14-15 minutes and get more RP, and that’s only slightly longer than a full length Arena match.
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> I like getting things sloooooooooooowly. It makes the game more fun. I don’t like getting anything easily. there is no challenge, and you take it for granted. So I don’t have a problem with getting customizations slowly.
But you’re not getting things slowly, you’re getting things randomly. There is no challenge. If you wanted things slowly, might as well go the Halo Reach route and grind and arbitrary value for it. At least then it isn’t random.
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> > > > I don’t hate them, and have never really posted too many negative things about them; I do have a lot a disappointment in them at times. It’s starts all the way back in Reach with how they dealt with the Bloom situation after they took over matchmaking for Reach. Then Halo 4, I liked it and played the -Yoink- out of it, but really with the whole GDC handicap Spartan controversy?! That kind of sent me over the edge a bit.
> > > >
> > > > MCC…dude, that was a sad, sad year or so dealing with that. Now Halo 5 and Warzone with Req’s…I don’t want to go into too much it does just kind of make me mad and sad all at the same time. I keep plugging along though with only my love for Halo to keep me interested.
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> > > I like the REQs and warzone, why do you not? And if you do not like it, you don’t have to play it.
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> > Well thank you for that amazing insight. Damn it! This whole time I have been playing Warzone, not liking it, and I didn’t realize until your post I didn’t have to play it.
> >
> > Seriously dude?! You say just because you like 343 we shouldn’t call you names. Well how about coming up with something other than, “Don’t like it don’t play it.”
> >
> > You also know what I didn’t like? Halo 4’s Ordnance Drops, and I played with them, a lot, but I also expressed my disdain for them on these forums like a lot of other people did. You know what happened? No more Ordnance Drops.
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> > I don’t like Warzone because I like equal starts to matches, and I don’t play it all that much either. Most of my time is in Arena and Firefight.
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> That first part lol knew I was gonna get something like that
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> It is true that 343 could do something about matching with similar skill level players, but warzone is pretty fun… you should probably play it more to get a better opinion.
> And unequal match starts have to do with your team being terrible, and you deal with it and do the best you can. I am a solo player myself (most of the time, but on rare occasions I will have one friend to play with) and I still find warzone to be fun, despite the sometimes unequal match starts.
No dude, when I am talking about equal starts I am talking about weapon starts. In Arena no matter how long the game is played I and my opposing team will always start with the same loadout weapon. We have to fight for the power weapons.
I don’t need to play it more to understand it. I have played it enough to know it is not my cup of tea, and I really hope it doesn’t return. I have no love for the Req system. I really hope that for Halo 6 we can say goodbye to both thing.
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> > > > I don’t hate them, and have never really posted too many negative things about them; I do have a lot a disappointment in them at times. It’s starts all the way back in Reach with how they dealt with the Bloom situation after they took over matchmaking for Reach. Then Halo 4, I liked it and played the -Yoink- out of it, but really with the whole GDC handicap Spartan controversy?! That kind of sent me over the edge a bit.
> > > >
> > > > MCC…dude, that was a sad, sad year or so dealing with that. Now Halo 5 and Warzone with Req’s…I don’t want to go into too much it does just kind of make me mad and sad all at the same time. I keep plugging along though with only my love for Halo to keep me interested.
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> > > I like the REQs and warzone, why do you not? And if you do not like it, you don’t have to play it.
> >
> > Well thank you for that amazing insight. Damn it! This whole time I have been playing Warzone, not liking it, and I didn’t realize until your post I didn’t have to play it.
> >
> > Seriously dude?! You say just because you like 343 we shouldn’t call you names. Well how about coming up with something other than, “Don’t like it don’t play it.”
> >
> > You also know what I didn’t like? Halo 4’s Ordnance Drops, and I played with them, a lot, but I also expressed my disdain for them on these forums like a lot of other people did. You know what happened? No more Ordnance Drops.
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> > I don’t like Warzone because I like equal starts to matches, and I don’t play it all that much either. Most of my time is in Arena and Firefight.
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> That first part lol knew I was gonna get something like that
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> It is true that 343 could do something about matching with similar skill level players, but warzone is pretty fun… you should probably play it more to get a better opinion.
> And unequal match starts have to do with your team being terrible, and you deal with it and do the best you can. I am a solo player myself (most of the time, but on rare occasions I will have one friend to play with) and I still find warzone to be fun, despite the sometimes unequal match starts.
Many of us have played a lot of Warzone. I’ve played more than 3 times as many Warzone games as you have. Telling us to play it more isn’t going to magically show us how “fun” it is, especially when we’re more aware of the many problems that it brings.