What is the worst gun in the game, objectively?

Just thought I’d open a dialogue about this subject since nobody has been on tier lists or things with the sandbox in a while.

I know people have a lot of opinions about what weapon is and isn’t good, but I just thought I’d analyze them all and see where they land. Since they rebalanced some things and nerfed melee damage, certain things changed in my tier list, such as the Ravager finally moving up from the worst weapon slot to a high mid slot where it can finally shine.

And my conclusion is that, sadly, the plasma pistol is probably the most statistically bad weapon in Infinite. This is due to several reasons.

  1. The damage is weird and not like a normal plasma weapon. It does not shred shields like the pulse carbine, other than using its overcharge feature…but there are several weapons that do that same thing better now.

  2. Since it doesn’t emp vehicles it lacks the utility function it has had for years, and so isn’t very helpful in something like btb anymore.

  3. It doesn’t compete well with its comparable handgun class weapons like the disruptor, sidekick, or mangler. All are able to kill faster, and even drop shields faster when you use them appropriately. The overcharge shot dropping shields completely is the absolute only thing it has going for it and that is not very reliable in Infinite.

  4. It is not very ammo efficient for what it does. This wouldn’t be terrible, but when it’s all you have or when you’re facing just about any other weapon, it just fails to compete. It’s far from useless, but it’s not going to win you a fight with an evenly skilled opponent that has any other weapon in the game. In a game of Rock Paper Scissors, the plasma pistol is the 4th option that all 3 can beat.

This is such a shame really, because it looks and sounds good, is one of the few legacy weapons that made the cut, and was actually very strong in the last few installments.

Anyway, what are your thoughts on this subject? Do you think a different weapon is worse overall than the plasma pistol?

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I agree. Plasma pistol is sad this time around.

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When used with a great flow, the plasma pistol can be deadly with the full charge, weapon drop and BR to finish the opponent off.

I’d say the mangler is now the most useless weapon with the new two-shot beat down to kill. Nerfing the gun has changed the dynamics of ranked drastically for me.

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No. The plasma pistol is all but useless. You only charge it for that first sheild pop and even that can be a waste of valuable seconds; thus eliminating your secondary slot of anything useful when your clip is spent.

It’s the worst weapon in the game, seconded only by the carbine which I would happily allow it to be trumped to that coveted first place in rubbishness slot

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I’ve got plenty of kills off of the plasma pistol. Definitely weaker than before, but still pops shields for easy kills. I feel like the ravager is pretty useless for actually getting kills, or maybe the pulse carbine.

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Ravager improved after the update. Much better non-charge

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Before they fixed the Ravager, I would have said Pulse Carbine and Ravager were the worst, but now it’s just Pulse Carbine and Plasma Pistol.

I use the Plasma Pistol still but only against an Overshield opponent, otherwise there really isn’t much of a reason to pick it up unless you just wanna run around charging it up and shooting it.

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Yh have noticed ppl are banging me with it all of a sudden. Need to retry it

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No point in using Plasma Pistol when Ravager is better in every way. Second worst weapon is Mangler now. Third worst is probably Pulse Carbine (probably because of desync).

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  1. Plasma Pistol.

    • Lost its EMP, tracking is so finicky that it’s become too unreliable for my tastes.
  2. Pulse Carbine.

    • That sweet spot it has is so niche that it’s basically a gun that’s not worth having over anything else. It’s pretty good in BTB since staying in that sweet spot is easier with large maps.

Yeah it actually slaps now, it’s a two burst kill if you don’t miss and the last blob is a headshot, but even with a three burst its fast and efficient. Also it has a huge melee bonus. I use it a lot in btb because it also kills vehicles better than most guns

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i feel like the plasma pistol, pulse carbine and the ravager are the worst.

Yeah, PP bad.

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I should emphasize why I chose plasma pistol over pulse carbine.

By my estimation and experience, the carbine does the same job but more consistently and efficiently and without the need for the emp charge time. You can also use it to help teammates in multiple fights quickly under the right circumstances, peppering shots down range without waiting for it to cool down.

It’s a strong combo weapon if you don’t mind a lot of assists.

Pulse Carbine, by far. At least the plasma pistol can still do its original job.

Since the S2 OS buff, the plasma pistol over charge doesn’t drop a full overshield anymore :frowning:

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Whhhhhaaaaattttttt!?! I had no idea but this makes the plasma pistol even worse now.

I am actually glad I learned this here instead of in-game, because I would have been really confused lol

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Yea, it definitely surprised me when it first happened to me. Tbf, it still does do a lot of damage and I think it’s stil worth trying to use it this way. But the player doesn’t go one shot :confused:

I had this idea for a new brute themed melee weapon.

A spiky medieveal flail. Spike ball and chain type. Nothing more, just a really gnarly spiky ball and chain flail. No energy, no plasma, (unless upgraded with plasma spikes)

Hold right trigger to swing it around above your head in a melee damage radius, but you move slowly while swinging it. Release right trigger after building momentum to just let it rip with super dope ball and chain physics to reach out and smash other players within range for momentum scaled melee damage

Imagine a brute chieftan with that -Yoink!-!!! The spike ball gets in the way while your trying to shoot at the weilder who swings that around their head!!!

Sword lunge at the flail swinger at the wrong time and get repulsed back with sheilds blasted out

Sword lunge at the flail guy at the right time and kill them without taking momentum damage as they drop the flail

Bonus points to devs if players can crouch walk while swinging ball and chain

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Disrupter or ravenger