It’s not close range because it’s -Yoink- ramp up means it’s out dpsed by the SMG, the storm rifle, and the assault rifle.
It’s not midrange because you’ll be 5 shot by anyone who isn’t brain-dead enough to miss shots on you before you get through the tooth pulling pain that is the ramp up time
It’s not long range because it’s a suppressor
I seriously think the ramp up time is the absolute worst thing to put on a gun that’s supposed to be a close range weapon. It makes it completely useless. I know that the homing rounds make it so that it needs to have some aspect of it nerfed but right now there is zero reason to pick it up beyond the commendation.
It needs to have the ramp up removed when smartlinked so it can actually compete with other weapons, or something.
Right now it’s just a weak piss stream of bullets that takes a while to get out. Complete dog -Yoink-
Its supposed to be like the AR and Storm rifle, but since it has tracking rounds it can’t be as powerful as the other two.
You might have kidney stones. Could explain the weak piss but I’m not a doctor.
It’s a suicide flashlight.
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> Its supposed to be like the AR and Storm rifle, but since it has tracking rounds it can’t be as powerful as the other two.
I noticed
It’s neither though. It’s just a garbage weapon. A shame cuz the rest of the sandbox is pretty well balanced
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> You might have kidney stones. Could explain the weak piss but I’m not a doctor.
Kidney stones don’t cause weak piss
what they do cause is crippling pain the likes of which you could never imagine
pain similar to the pain you feel whenever you try to use the Suppressor.
It’s an anti-auto. It kills autos from outside their effective range. Other than the saw, it’s the longest range auto.
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> It’s an anti-auto. It kills autos from outside their effective range. Other than the saw, it’s the longest range auto.
So what you’re saying is that it’s an extremely niche weapon pick up that’s still outclassed in its own niche by weapons that can do more than just kill autos at range?
Yeah, sounds like the definition of useless to me.
“anti-automatic” is literally the most useless niche i’ve ever heard of, considering any weapon that operates out of close range is an anti automatic weapon.
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> > It’s an anti-auto. It kills autos from outside their effective range. Other than the saw, it’s the longest range auto.
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> So what you’re saying is that it’s an extremely niche weapon pick up that’s still outclassed in its own niche by weapons that can do more than just kill autos at range?
> Yeah, sounds like the definition of useless to me.
>
> “anti-automatic” is literally the most useless niche i’ve ever heard of, considering any weapon that operates out of close range is an anti automatic weapon.
No, I’ve used it in early Warzone games when everyone is still using ARs. You approach them just within the tracking range and open up. It tears them apart. It’s not that bad, dude.
Suppressor is -Yoinking!- awesome!, It’s a weapon made for back pedaling and make you focus more on dodging shots since you dont have to focus on aiming.
You could say it was meant to…suppress
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> > > It’s an anti-auto. It kills autos from outside their effective range. Other than the saw, it’s the longest range auto.
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> >
> > So what you’re saying is that it’s an extremely niche weapon pick up that’s still outclassed in its own niche by weapons that can do more than just kill autos at range?
> > Yeah, sounds like the definition of useless to me.
> >
> > “anti-automatic” is literally the most useless niche i’ve ever heard of, considering any weapon that operates out of close range is an anti automatic weapon.
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> No, I’ve used it in early Warzone games when everyone is still using ARs. You approach them just within the tracking range and open up. It tears them apart. It’s not that bad, dude.
Dude. Shut up!
If he can’t figure that out for himself then please, enjoy it when you go against him.
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> Suppressor is -Yoinking!- awesome!, It’s a weapon made for back pedaling and make you focus more on dodging shots since you dont have to focus on aiming.
> You could say it was meant to…suppress
It WOULD be, if it weren’t for the fact that the ramp up time is so garbage that the guy’s about 3/4ths of the way through stripping your shields by the time you’re at peak ROF.
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> > > It’s an anti-auto. It kills autos from outside their effective range. Other than the saw, it’s the longest range auto.
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> > So what you’re saying is that it’s an extremely niche weapon pick up that’s still outclassed in its own niche by weapons that can do more than just kill autos at range?
> > Yeah, sounds like the definition of useless to me.
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> > “anti-automatic” is literally the most useless niche i’ve ever heard of, considering any weapon that operates out of close range is an anti automatic weapon.
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> No, I’ve used it in early Warzone games when everyone is still using ARs. You approach them just within the tracking range and open up. It tears them apart. It’s not that bad, dude.
You can do literally the same exact thing with the magnum, which does it better, which doesn’t cost 2 req points and a card. lol
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> > > > It’s an anti-auto. It kills autos from outside their effective range. Other than the saw, it’s the longest range auto.
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> > > So what you’re saying is that it’s an extremely niche weapon pick up that’s still outclassed in its own niche by weapons that can do more than just kill autos at range?
> > > Yeah, sounds like the definition of useless to me.
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> > > “anti-automatic” is literally the most useless niche i’ve ever heard of, considering any weapon that operates out of close range is an anti automatic weapon.
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> > No, I’ve used it in early Warzone games when everyone is still using ARs. You approach them just within the tracking range and open up. It tears them apart. It’s not that bad, dude.
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> Dude. Shut up!
> If he can’t figure that out for himself then please, enjoy it when you go against him.
i’ll figure out you’re using a suppressor and pop you with a magnum because you came at me with a garbage weapon probably.
It wins in firefights where the opponent decides to do the “between shots thrust dodge,” because your tracking rounds don’t miss during their thrust.
To be fair if you took out the ramp up then this gun would be pretty overpowered unless you treated it like the shotgun and sword in arena. I get a killing spree, and run out of ammo with the mid tier suppressor when I spawn it in the early game in warzone every time. Sure it gets outclassed by higher level reqs, but in arena there aren’t really any high tier weapons on the map besides the actual power weapons with the timer and announcement.
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> Suppressor is -Yoinking!- awesome!, It’s a weapon made for back pedaling and make you focus more on dodging shots since you dont have to focus on aiming.
> You could say it was meant to…suppress
I cringed lol.
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> > > > It’s an anti-auto. It kills autos from outside their effective range. Other than the saw, it’s the longest range auto.
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> > > So what you’re saying is that it’s an extremely niche weapon pick up that’s still outclassed in its own niche by weapons that can do more than just kill autos at range?
> > > Yeah, sounds like the definition of useless to me.
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> > > “anti-automatic” is literally the most useless niche i’ve ever heard of, considering any weapon that operates out of close range is an anti automatic weapon.
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> > No, I’ve used it in early Warzone games when everyone is still using ARs. You approach them just within the tracking range and open up. It tears them apart. It’s not that bad, dude.
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> You can do literally the same exact thing with the magnum, which does it better, which doesn’t cost 2 req points and a card. lol
Suppressor costs one.
You can find them on the floor from dead AI anyways.
It’s seriously not that bad.
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> It wins in firefights where the opponent decides to do the “between shots thrust dodge,” because your tracking rounds don’t miss during their thrust.
> To be fair if you took out the ramp up then this gun would be pretty overpowered unless you treated it like the shotgun and sword in arena. I get a killing spree, and run out of ammo with the mid tier suppressor when I spawn it in the early game in warzone every time. Sure it gets outclassed by higher level reqs, but in arena there aren’t really any high tier weapons on the map besides the actual power weapons with the timer and announcement.
this is why you give it a special situation where it removes the ramp up
like i said, making smartlink remove ramp up is the best way to handle it, that way if you can keep smartlink up while shooting you’re rewarded for it like other Promethean weapons. just make it reset its ROF if you get hit while smartlinked, that way it can actually contest other standard pick ups like SMG or Storm or even default AR
either that, or remove both the ramp up and the tracking and give it a different gimmick entriely.
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> > > It’s an anti-auto. It kills autos from outside their effective range. Other than the saw, it’s the longest range auto.
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> > So what you’re saying is that it’s an extremely niche weapon pick up that’s still outclassed in its own niche by weapons that can do more than just kill autos at range?
> > Yeah, sounds like the definition of useless to me.
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> > “anti-automatic” is literally the most useless niche i’ve ever heard of, considering any weapon that operates out of close range is an anti automatic weapon.
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> No, I’ve used it in early Warzone games when everyone is still using ARs. You approach them just within the tracking range and open up. It tears them apart. It’s not that bad, dude.
I’m guessing he is speaking in terms of arena, where using an auto outside CQC usually ends in getting bent over the table by a precision.
To answer the question… good question. The ramp up just seems odd. It adds nothing to gameplay and only serves to make the gun weaker. Even the homing projectile component arguably makes it weaker since, like all homing weapons, it can be broken by thrust.
To be fair, I think the AR sucks too. Even in CQC I don’t think it outclasses the magnum enough, if at all, to make it worth it. If I’m using an auto it’s a SMG or SR. The AR is more of a “I’m reloading and need to keep shooting” type of deal.
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> > > > It’s an anti-auto. It kills autos from outside their effective range. Other than the saw, it’s the longest range auto.
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> > > So what you’re saying is that it’s an extremely niche weapon pick up that’s still outclassed in its own niche by weapons that can do more than just kill autos at range?
> > > Yeah, sounds like the definition of useless to me.
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> > > “anti-automatic” is literally the most useless niche i’ve ever heard of, considering any weapon that operates out of close range is an anti automatic weapon.
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> > No, I’ve used it in early Warzone games when everyone is still using ARs. You approach them just within the tracking range and open up. It tears them apart. It’s not that bad, dude.
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> I’m guessing he is speaking in terms of arena, where using an auto outside CQC usually ends in getting bent over the table by a precision.
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> To answer the question… good question. The ramp up just seems odd. It adds nothing to gameplay and only serves to make the gun weaker. Even the homing projectile component arguably makes it weaker since, like all homing weapons, it can be broken by thrust.
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> To be fair, I think the AR sucks too. Even in CQC I don’t think it outclasses the magnum enough, if at all, to make it worth it. If I’m using an auto it’s a SMG or SR. The AR is more of a “I’m reloading and need to keep shooting” type of deal.
AR’s surprisingly good if you’re accurate, kind of counterintuitive for an automatic, but if you can accurately hose people (oxymoron i know) it actually shreds, it’s just really hard doing it while still remaning a hard enough target to juke precision weapons, makes it not worth it unless you’re super good with it.
I feel like 343’s approach to the suppressor in general was just a -Yoink- ton of awkward, i guess they wanted to differentiate it more from the SMG due to that making a return, but they ended up just making it overpowered and then giving it a crippling debuff that just makes it impossible to balance properly.
too late now i guess.