WHAT IS HALO?

I heard many people saying this game does not feel/ play like halo, i would have to agree with them. it has not much to do with thrusters,(something that i do not hate or like but they were in 2 previous halo games) but in almost everything else.

if you buy a bike and become a good bike rider hitting jumps and all your bike will eventually be outdated( although none of the games are THAT outdated here is my point)

eventually you will replace some things on the bike or add new things ( like in reach and on)

others may not like these thing so u decide to get them removed and add some old stuff( even starts exc.)

at this point it is still a bike, but say your neighbor gets a new car, this car and all cars are better in all aspects of speed, but bikes are unique becaue you can hit jumps on them.

you ( in this case 343) decide to make some modifications things very few people asked for possibly to become more like the car(cod)
you put a small engine in to make it go faster, at this point u can sill hit jumps but its not as satisfying without a pedal bike, (sprint)

after that you add all of these other things to it in order to copy all of the cars, you change the tires, make it bigger, put a bigger engine in, add windows and so on.

the question i want to ask you is whem did the bike become something else( a car)

they have changed so many things about the game its almost crazy, i am NOT against change just to MUCH of it is really bad.

first we need to say what is basically the same then what is different,

(from 1-3)the way the long range guns shoot, the bashing mechanics, and the guns havnt changed,

now lets list all the the changes KEPT from other games

sprint is overall useless why have something if you have to Nerf it, thats like using a gun in call of duty that has drastically long kill times its just useless and not worth your time especially if its not going to get better or be removed for its horribleness. IMO it should be taked out to give halo a new feel because it has had sprint for a long time. also let halo be different and not have this mechanic. people may not buy it because it has sprint but i have not heard anyone say that they wont buy a game because it has no sprint.

many other things have changed:
clamber IMO not needed, makes a unique aspect about halo(skill jumping) very useless.

hover: not asked for: although it can be taken off the controls most people especially new wont, but im more ok with this one( but not entirely)

kill times: they are much lower in this i have noticed, another huge change they should be longer this is halo dont forget, this is the game that makes new people say “i shot him 3 times in the head and he didnt die!” although this still goes, the TTK is still to short IMO

cluttered map(s): empire is way to cluttered with cover and CQB places. this will probably happen with other non remake maps, the old games had different forms of cover and it worked well, why change the special way of maps in halo

“smart scope” this is a form of ADS, you zoom in and look at something that helps you aim aka a sight, again not really asked for, this takes away the power of the BR, although CQB weapons should be better this no matter how nerfed they are in damage will make them much more powerful.
not asked for by many takes yet another almost unique thing about halo away

ground pound: this is an additive now in many games that does nothing much i want it removed but if it isnt then the world wont end

Spartan charge: not good because it promotes the use of sprint which if they are trying to nerf shouldn’t be there. this is not in many games but adds very little, its not used much.

slide: i think it is an ok addition not much good not much bad but its used in a lot of games and takes away from the special feeling of halo

controls: the worst change other than sprint: u guys know what they changed, but why they took this aspect away i will never know,

so I ask all of you, since halo has changed very (most likely to fast) ay which point would the feel of halo no longer be halo? what could they add in to make halo not halo anymore, because for most people it seems that thay could do whatever and because it SAYS 'halo" does NOT mean that it FEELS like halo
most everything here is an opinion and everyone is entitled to what they think, leave below what would break the meaning and game play of halo for you

Is the bike suppose to represent something. I’m confused I don’t mod my bike. should I be doing this??!??

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> I heard many people saying this game does not feel/ play like halo, i would have to agree with them. it has not much to do with thrusters,(something that i do not hate or like but they were in 2 previous halo games) but in almost everything else.
>
> if you buy a bike and become a good bike rider hitting jumps and all your bike will eventually be outdated( although none of the games are THAT outdated here is my point)
>
> eventually you will replace some things on the bike or add new things ( like in reach and on)
>
> others may not like these thing so u decide to get them removed and add some old stuff( even starts exc.)
>
> at this point it is still a bike, but say your neighbor gets a new car, this car and all cars are better in all aspects of speed, but bikes are unique becaue you can hit jumps on them.
>
> you ( in this case 343) decide to make some modifications things very few people asked for possibly to become more like the car(cod)
> you put a small engine in to make it go faster, at this point u can sill hit jumps but its not as satisfying without a pedal bike, (sprint)
>
> after that you add all of these other things to it in order to copy all of the cars, you change the tires, make it bigger, put a bigger engine in, add windows and so on.
>
> the question i want to ask you is whem did the bike become something else( a car)
>
> they have changed so many things about the game its almost crazy, i am NOT against change just to MUCH of it is really bad.
>
> first we need to say what is basically the same then what is different,
>
> (from 1-3)the way the long range guns shoot, the bashing mechanics, and the guns havnt changed,
>
> now lets list all the the changes KEPT from other games
>
> sprint is overall useless why have something if you have to Nerf it, thats like using a gun in call of duty that has drastically long kill times its just useless and not worth your time especially if its not going to get better or be removed for its horribleness. IMO it should be taked out to give halo a new feel because it has had sprint for a long time. also let halo be different and not have this mechanic. people may not buy it because it has sprint but i have not heard anyone say that they wont buy a game because it has no sprint.
>
> many other things have changed:
> clamber IMO not needed, makes a unique aspect about halo(skill jumping) very useless.
>
> hover: not asked for: although it can be taken off the controls most people especially new wont, but im more ok with this one( but not entirely)
>
> kill times: they are much lower in this i have noticed, another huge change they should be longer this is halo dont forget, this is the game that makes new people say “i shot him 3 times in the head and he didnt die!” although this still goes, the TTK is still to short IMO
>
> cluttered map(s): empire is way to cluttered with cover and CQB places. this will probably happen with other non remake maps, the old games had different forms of cover and it worked well, why change the special way of maps in halo
>
> “smart scope” this is a form of ADS, you zoom in and look at something that helps you aim aka a sight, again not really asked for, this takes away the power of the BR, although CQB weapons should be better this no matter how nerfed they are in damage will make them much more powerful.
> not asked for by many takes yet another almost unique thing about halo away
>
> ground pound: this is an additive now in many games that does nothing much i want it removed but if it isnt then the world wont end
>
> Spartan charge: not good because it promotes the use of sprint which if they are trying to nerf shouldn’t be there. this is not in many games but adds very little, its not used much.
>
> slide: i think it is an ok addition not much good not much bad but its used in a lot of games and takes away from the special feeling of halo
>
> controls: the worst change other than sprint: u guys know what they changed, but why they took this aspect away i will never know,
>
> so I ask all of you, since halo has changed very (most likely to fast) ay which point would the feel of halo no longer be halo? what could they add in to make halo not halo anymore, because for most people it seems that thay could do whatever and because it SAYS 'halo" does NOT mean that it FEELS like halo
> most everything here is an opinion and everyone is entitled to what they think, leave below what would break the meaning and game play of halo for you

It’s whatever you make of it, brutha…

I think halo 5 is closer to halo than halo ce,2,3,reach,4 all combined. Halo is what the developer dubs it. Halo is now in the future and left behind those Stone Age clunky mechanics.

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> Is the bike suppose to represent something. I’m confused I don’t mod my bike. should I be doing this??!??

ya adding things such as a light weight frame can really improve height gained or removing a med-large sproked and replacing it with a small one can help u land jumps better, you mod bikes to get more out of them, same goes for anything

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> I think halo 5 is closer to halo than halo ce,2,3,reach,4 all combined. Halo is what the developer dubs it.

That statement makes no sense. If Halo is whatever a developer dubs it, then a game can’t be “more” or “less” Halo, it’s simply Halo.
It’s not possible for Halo 5 to be closer to Halo using that logic.

To me, Halo is…actually I’ll explain this later. Too much to cover in a simple edit.

I’m confused…
this is the Halo 5 beta…
i have yet to turn my system on and say… WHAT IS THIS?!? THIS IS NOT AW!!
i know what I am playing at all times.

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Simple. dont like the new things… DONT PLAY IT. and stop making frikin stupid posts about it.

i think halo 5 is what should have come out after 3 it adds to the halo formula without going to far away from it like reach and 4 did

Halo to me can be CE style gameplay or 2/3 style gameplay. Not Reach, not 4, and so far not Guardians. I’m speaking for myself, here, so keep in mind my views may not line up with yours (not that I remotely care).

Breaking Halo for me would be unequal spawns, run or gun instead of run and gun (sprint…), autos being better than precisions at anything but very close quarters, lowering the skillgap, the loss of the ability to fight back after your opponent has nailed the first shot, any system other than power ups and weapons having on-map static spawns, lack of fluid movement (which I consider SAs to be a culprit of. I can honestly say movement in the original trilogy didn’t feel at all restrictive to me; it was entirely based on my own ability), lack of strafing, and lack of a decent ranking system not entirely based on progression (however, the carrot shaped like the number “50” constantly dangling in front of me was absolutely my main motivation for getting better. With no feasible rank ceiling, nothing to strive for, I don’t feel nearly as motivated to improve my own skill.).

Breaking Halo for me could also be entirely cosmetic. Killcam completely breaks the Halo feel for me. I want to see my own dead body when I die. You’ve taken this away from me, 343. The shield noise, the “technicool” HUD, the big green tube rocket launcher, the death music, the Monster-chugging Spartans, ADS, extremely shiny graphics…all these take away from the game feeling like Halo to me.

I thought Reach killed the Halo feel. I still don’t like Reach at all, but for much smaller reasons than I had originally thought. I guess somebody needed to show me what diversion from Halo’s formula REALLY looks like; and by -Yoink- it’s worked.

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> Simple. dont like the new things… DONT PLAY IT. and stop making frikin stupid posts about it.

how else is the community going to say what they do and dont like, im giving my feedback on the beta. thats what they want us to do its a beta for a reason, i will play it but if some changes are made the game can become a better one IMO. its not gana go far without being refined, the only stupid posts are the ones that troll, u can think whatever you want but just because u may disagree does not give u the right to deny unless u have fact