I guess for some time now, I can’t help but feel that Halo 5 may be missing something for it to really be considered a real Halo game. It could be the gameplay and it’s mechanics, or it could be the design of the whole thing, or at least some certain aspects of it. I personally think that it’s missing a Halo CE type of feel, though that much is obvious. Halo 3, to me, seems to have the feel of both the first and second one, mostly because it’s a sequel to both of those games. So what do you think the game was lacking for it to be considered ‘Halo’?
Keep in mind that this post is in no way bashing the current game or 343i in particular, just some curiosity on what the game could have been for it to be considered Halo or what it may be lacking.
Why I believe it isn’t completely considered to be Halo:
-Missing a good campaign
-Missing splitscreen
-Sprint (don’t really care, seems to be a common complaint)
-Spartan Charge
-Smart Scope, which is more or less just ADS
-REQs
-Missing some older game modes (we still don’t have Assault, do we?)
-Art style is very different (compare the new vehicles to the older versions)
EDIT: Just to clarify, I personally think Halo 5 retains enough (to be honest, it’s not many elements to me) gameplay elements to qualify to be called a Halo title. but in some aspects, such as the campaign, are not worthy of being a mainline game.
Halo 5 is not missing, it has things that do not make a Halo game.
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> Halo 5 is not missing, it has things that do not make a Halo game.
What could those be? Is it the additions that 343 put into the game?
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Yes.
I can live with the new mechanics but Halo for me was all about the social experience. Splitscreen… f’ing off with friends in FF… going ham with a random in a warthog in BTB without having extreme perspiration issues… All things missing for me in H5
Halo 5 loses the warm feeling that every other halo gave me. To be “Halo” it needs split screen, nice and long TTK and all of Halo’s modes that made it so popular.
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> Halo 5 loses the warm feeling that every other halo gave me. To be “Halo” it needs split screen, nice and long TTK and all of Halo’s modes that made it so popular.
TTK?
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A long TTK is what makes halo, halo.
Edit: I see my error, the halo 5 TTK is fine, the thread is a about how HALO 5 can be changed.
Halo 5 is Halo, just like 4, MCC, Reach, H3, H2, Spartan Assult, Spartan Strike and even Halo Wars… Halo 5 isn’t missing anything that doesn’t make it Halo… IMO…Just because every Halo game is different doesn’t make it any more or any less Halo.
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> Halo 5 is Halo, just like 4, MCC, Reach, H3, H2, Spartan Assult, Spartan Strike and even Halo Wars… Halo 5 isn’t missing anything that doesn’t make it Halo… IMO…Just because every Halo game is different doesn’t make it any more or any less Halo.
It’s just that in some ways, it deviates to far from what made halo what is was in the past.
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Well yeah, but I was asking what TTK stand for, Initial wise. I’m not sure I’m familiar with that term.
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Oooooh, TTK is time to kill. Games like call of duty have a very short TTK while halo is known for its long TTK.
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Oh, I see. yeah, that would be nice too.
Just recently after playing the custom game mode in MCC, it made me realize that the gameplay doesn’t feel too far off from Halo 1-4, but H5 seemed to be faster in movements(and that’s without sprint). So basically, multiplayer doesn’t feel too different, at least from the core aspect. So I guess what H5 seems to be lacking was a good campaign experience, the kind that would date back to Halo CE.
-Classic Art Style
-Classic Music
-Story and Gameplay focus on the Covenant and Flood, not “Prometheans” (Eugh)
-Open, well-designed Campaign Missions
-Interesting and competitive multiplayer maps.
-Classic Halo Gameplay
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Time to kill basically
splitscreen
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> -Classic Art Style
> -Classic Music
> -Story and Gameplay focus on the Covenant and Flood, not “Prometheans” (Eugh)
> -Open, well-designed Campaign Missions
> -Interesting and competitive multiplayer maps.
> -Classic Halo Gameplay
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> Why I believe it isn’t completely considered to be Halo:
> -Missing a good campaign
> -Missing splitscreen
> -Sprint (don’t really care, seems to be a common complaint)
> -Spartan Charge
> -Smart Scope, which is more or less just ADS
> -REQs
> -Missing some older game modes (we still don’t have Assault, do we?)
> -Art style is very different (compare the new vehicles to the older versions)
Both of you missed somethingEdit: three
> The missing things and new thing that makes Halo 5 not considered a Halo game is:
> 1. Sprint and spartan charge. (Climbing is okay and very useful)
> 2. Instead of having sprint in spartan ability, it would be better to have sprint like we had in Reach. So the one who likes sprint can use it and the ones who don’t like it, don’t need to use it.
> 3. I actually like the REQ system and the aiming the only thing that bothers me is that REQs should have more systematic packs and less armor variants and more different armors. Less weapon variants, (legendaries like Halo CE pistol and Halo 2 BR is perfect) and more weapons added like bruteshot and sentinel beam.
> 4. Reach style of Firefight + Halo 5 style of firefight. Think it would be awesome to have the option to choose between a customazable Firefight and the Halo 5s objective Firefight. + voice overs like we had in Reach.
> 5. Flood and brutes is missing. Especially flood. Fighting the flood in the library and 343 Guilty spark missions in Halo CE is just a true Halo experience.
> 6. In Halo 2 when we met bosses like Tartarus, prophet of Regret and the heretic leader we had to take them out ourself. In Halo 5 Locke takes out Juhl mdama on a wtf way? In a cutscene? C’mon 343, couldn’t we fight him off like in Halo 2 style? Atleast Halo 5 would get a little Halo feeling.
> 7. Old Halo maps need to be put in matchmaking. Like blood gulch and beaver creek and prison and guardian and much more.
> 8. More playlists, CTF, oddball, action sack, social slayer, moongoose race and more.
> 9. Custom games were you can search for games in a lobby so you can easely find a custom game lobby.
> 10. In game fileshare.
> 11. More Master Chief, less Locke. At least if you almost made the entire game about Locke you could make him crash a banshee, like Chief did in CE when he got introduced and like Arbiter did when he got introduced in Halo 2 as a playable character and now when Locke became the “arbiter” or the second playable character in the story, he should really crash a banshee. Wtf 343?
> 12. Halo CE type of music and campaign style. That campaign is still enjoyable after 10 years, that’s actually really incredible if you ask me.
> 13. But except this, Halo 5 is a insane game! Good job 343I, keep getting better 
The missing things and new thing that makes Halo 5 not considered a Halo game is:
- Sprint and spartan charge. (Climbing is okay and very useful)
- Instead of having sprint in spartan ability, it would be better to have sprint like we had in Reach. So the one who likes sprint can use it and the ones who don’t like it, don’t need to use it.
- I actually like the REQ system and the aiming the only thing that bothers me is that REQs should have more systematic packs and less armor variants and more different armors. Less weapon variants, (legendaries like Halo CE pistol and Halo 2 BR is perfect) and more weapons added like bruteshot and sentinel beam.
- Reach style of Firefight + Halo 5 style of firefight. Think it would be awesome to have the option to choose between a customazable Firefight and the Halo 5s objective Firefight. + voice overs like we had in Reach.
- Flood and brutes is missing. Especially flood. Fighting the flood in the library and 343 Guilty spark missions in Halo CE is just a true Halo experience.
- In Halo 2 when we met bosses like Tartarus, prophet of Regret and the heretic leader we had to take them out ourself. In Halo 5 Locke takes out Juhl mdama on a wtf way? In a cutscene? C’mon 343, couldn’t we fight him off like in Halo 2 style? Atleast Halo 5 would get a little Halo feeling.
- Old Halo maps need to be put in matchmaking. Like blood gulch and beaver creek and prison and guardian and much more.
- More playlists, CTF, oddball, action sack, social slayer, moongoose race and more.
- Custom games were you can search for games in a lobby so you can easely find a custom game lobby.
- In game fileshare.
- More Master Chief, less Locke. At least if you almost made the entire game about Locke you could make him crash a banshee, like Chief did in CE when he got introduced and like Arbiter did when he got introduced in Halo 2 as a playable character and now when Locke became the “arbiter” or the second playable character in the story, he should really crash a banshee. Wtf 343?
- Halo CE type of music and campaign style. That campaign is still enjoyable after 10 years, that’s actually really incredible if you ask me.
- But except this, Halo 5 is a insane game! Good job 343I, keep getting better