What is 343 doing?!?

The game has been out half a year now and every week there is a more cheating/modding going on. Tonight 100% games in team slayer were hacked. This is absurd.

It’s very easy to see the cheaters - getting +25 kills with 2 or 3 deaths should flag something in game modes like Fiesta, Team Slayer, and Ranked. Then take a look at the video to see the cheats in action.

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What video?

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Haven’t seen a lot of “cheating” per se. One definite wall hacker who I reported.

The main “cheating” I’m seeing is manipulating ranked squads with Sandbaggers (Bronze / Silver players) and/or Smurfs (usually around mid-Gold). Letting a couple of high Diamonds or low Onyx players grind out rank.

A couple of days ago I played a team and their “Silver 6” went +10. Almost B.O.G. in a Diamond level match.

Similar squad set ups in at least ten matches over a few days.

And the frustrating thing is this could easily be addressed by 343 if they wanted to.

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While I can see that as be annoying/frustrating and unsporting behavior, I would be okay with it. The other stuff is what is so disappointing.

Video replay from the games.

All I see is Xbox One players having horrible desync lag dude.
I cannot play with one of my friends because it is so laggy when the game tries to calculate our positions and inputs.

For example - I was on a mongoose and jumped off since I anticipated him boarding me.
I then saw him board the mongoose and attempt to drive off but I sworded him, insta-killing him.
BUT ON HIS SCREEN, he had boarded my vehicle and kicked me off and away, only to suddenly die while he was burning rubber away.

Cheaters are definitely in the game, but most of what people think is cheating is really just players having issues with server connection and the servers having issues synchronizing all of our inputs.
As a result, you may THINK you are behind cover, but in actuality you are still out of cover for about half-a-second and the enemy was still able to see you; resulting in your death.

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But like…
Why tho.

Rank mean so little,
You don’t even get any rewards for maintaining ranks.

The dumbest thing anyone could invest their time into.

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Fair points. Let’s assume that’s the issue - then it’s still begs the question what is 343 doing? A quick fix is to cancel crossplay or make it a dedicated gamelist. If this is the root of all the problems, how can a Microsoft entity effectively make Xbox consoles a second tier system for gameplay?

Playing the game for fun is the reward. Everything else is supposed to be secondary.

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I don’t care about rank either but I definitely not want my game to have any cheaters in it. It’s just black sheep ruining the experience for everyone, no matter where they play, no matter how they play.

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That was frankly never true.

A repetitive experience with almost nothing mixing things up isn’t entertaining.

You play for a reward or a Goal,
Fun is what suppose to be the thing that naturally happens along the way,
its not the goal of playing a Game.

A goal can be a:
Top Spot on the Leader Board,
Or if you’re playing a low Stress mode like infection; to cause as much mayhem, or be one of the last people alive.
Or in the case of the Bungie Halo’s, finding interesting people to play with and Talk too,
Playing as many games as you want with them, and then maybe add them as a friend.
Or Building a super amazing map that you feel proud of building, get a hand full of people to play on it, and then go on to build another map.

People need to stop using the stupid argument that, “you should be playing for fun”.
Because they clearly haven’t thought about that that even means.

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Frankly that’s always been true. Playing a game for the core design is the reason to play it. Those “goals” you are referring to are the fun things that happen along the way. All the way back in Halo 1, just playing the game was the whole experience - there were no leader boards, armors, achievements, map building, etc. People need to stop making arguments and proclaiming that is the truth because apparently they are delusional.

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Somewhat true.

The proper fix is to actually phase out Xbox One players as time progresses.
Halo Infinite was designed with the specs of the Series X in mind, which has more RAM than an Xbox One X. At bare minimum, the Xbox Series S matches the Xbox One X in terms of specs.

The majority of players however, thanks to scalpers, are playing on the Xbox One platform, which has three separate variants - Xbox One Standard - Xbox One Slim - Xbox One X.
2/3 of these options are obsolete hardware.

Meanwhile most gaming PCs and the Xbox One X, Xbox Series S, and Xbox Series X are able to run the game smoothly.

If it was no longer made available for the Xbox One or Xbox One S, we would see a vast improvement of server connection and hit-registration.
But there are is a key factor blocking this -

  • Scalpers still make it tough to buy the new generation of consoles.
  • Most players are on the Xbox One platform, either as a byproduct of the first bullet above or as a fact that they don’t want to spend the money; especially nowadays with gas prices and such being so high.
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The population is so low now, I get super sus at players on PC who have four numbers after their name.

Sure, could be someone new trying halo, and more power to them.

But it could be cheater on their new account.

Hardware bans are needed

Its not at all true lol,

Its easily demonstrated when people play games well past the point of being fun,
Playing Ranked in League of Legends, or CS:GO.

Or people Throwing themselves repeatedly at the popular Battle Royal game despite being within the first 20 people eliminated every time.

Or Spending 40 hours in minecraft Digging out a Massive Hole in a mountain, holding down your mouse button to the point your fingers goes numb.

Or Smashing their heads through Darksouls just to make headway in particularly tough areas.

These things are not fun,
They are the Farthest thing from fun.

People do it, because there is an objective, a reward, a Goal.

So, no.
You are absolutely wrong.
Critically and Unequivocally wrong.
Like wrong to the point you’ve literally demonstrated that you’re thoughts about it shallow.

People Played Halo one repeatedly for all kinds of of goals,
Completing the campaign multiple times to experience different levels difficulty,
Or finding a locating unexplored areas, hidden weapon caches, Experiencing unique Dialogue and different enemy AI patterns.

In Halo:CE Multiplayer is was to play and Beat Friends, or mess around and Roleplay on the maps, (Thanks Rooster Teeth.) Or to Partake in local competitions.

People didn’t just Play Halo:CE because, “Mate the Gameplay is fun.”

Again, people need to stop using that dumb argument.

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Players do derive fun in different ways. As a developer you have to also cater to the kind of player who will doggedly play your game because they want shiny things, they want the challenges and achievements. Whether or not they enjoy the actual gameplay can be secondary too. It can go either way at that point; it might burn out some, and it might retain others.

Their best. (~ ̄▽ ̄)~

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I had a game of Rumble Pit (forced to play for challenge), was 25 and 6. The next closest was 14 kills. I play on a series X with my Xbox one controller (not elite) because I like to wear out old controllers first before opening the new one. This score is not always the case it honestly surprised me when it happened. I don’t think there is that many cheaters in halo. They’d rather hack COD.

It’s amazing how dense you are. Again people have been playing HALO for 20 years without any of the “goals” you pointed out. Just because some folks in other games play it for those reasons does not mean it exists as the reason for everyone or even across other games. No matter how many time you repeat an incorrect fact, it will never be true. Take a step back and think about what you are saying. Then think it over some more. After that, ask somebody with some knowledge of gaming and you might get to a more sensible conclusion. People were/are still playing HALO 1 because its fun just to play. They do not care about sgt. donut, skulls, storyline, etc. - FPS games have always been fun just to play. Go back further than HALO and the point still holds true.

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Same could be said about the original halo 2