What is 343i’s big plan with halo? Are they trying to milk it? Do they even really care about the game? It seems to me that 343 make halo how they think it will sell best instead of thinking about what people will wanna play more. Because of this to me halo has lost its soul. Halo Is going down hill because of 343. Not everything they do is bad but it seems like they take 1 step forward and 3 steps back.
Halo used to be so much bigger and better. Halo was a way of life. I know that may sound stupid to some but its like this. Years ago People didn’t get together to hang out people go together to play halo. For some there was not game night there was only halo night. We would get home from school or work and the first thing that was on our minds was halo. Halo was a game that people would fly to another state just to play with someone they met online in a chat room. Groups of people would get together and play halo.
343 wastes dev time changing things that don’t need to be changed and then they waste more time changing things back. Lets look at all 3 of 343s major halo releases.
Halo 4.
Halo 4 was 343s first halo game that they didn’t outsouce. It is also the most disliked halo. While reach changed a lot about halo it still had halos core game and values. Halo 4 on the other hand took that core and threw it out the window. It destoryed halos competitiveness and catered to casual to a point there it mirrored CoD, and caused halo to be removed from MLG. I remember when people would call games halo clones. Yet halo 4 when halo started to become a clone.
Halo 4s major problems.
0 Competitiveness. - Casual gameplay. - Load outs. - Perks. - Infinite sprint. Inb4 “no it didn’t” you needed a perk for it but it did have it. - Problems with forge. - Ruining of Infection and a large part of custom games. - Ordnance drops. - Bad maps. - Nerfed vehicles. - Bad Campaign - Not everyone feels this way but I think the story telling was bad. - No file Browser - This was patched after a year. - Bad Weapon balance - This was also patched after a year. - The amount of time 343 takes to fix a problem.I’m sure there were more major problems but I can’t think of anything else.
Halo MCC.
Halo the broken collection has countless problems and 100s of bugs. It took 343 6 months to make the game playable. Its still not fixed and because of everything that happen with it its dead. Go try and find a match you will have better luck with halo 3 on 360 and is 1000 players. Instead of working on the game and trying to fix it. They wasted time porting ODST and a new map. It would have been a great apology if only the game ever been finished. They broke their promise of fixing the game and pumping out patches until they fixed it. They jumped ship as soon as halo 5 came out. They lyed to us becuase they don’t care about halo they only care about making as much money as they can.
Halo 5
Now we are on the newest money maker for 343. There really isn’t much I can say that hasn’t been said 100s of times on these forums. At this point halo is just a prand name. People will buy it just because of its name. 343 will make a change just because they feel it will make them the most money, They do not care about halo. Look at warzone the only reason they even made it was to sell requisitions. Its the same reason why they made so many variants of all the armor and weapons/vehicles. Its to entice users to spend more money on the game. There is so much time being wasted on this game because they have to go back and add something or fix something they should not have changed like the colors, emblems, and stuff like the rocket launcher. They try and make the game look modern shooter in stead of the sci-fi shooter it really is. Look at the scorpion tank the halo 5 version looks like something you would see in real life. They need to stop changing things just because they can and just because they think it will make more money.
Halo 5s major problems.
Its Greedy - Its way over competitive I mean CS:GO is less competitive then halo 5. - It has the best halo forge to date but that means nothing without a file browser. I really hate having to go to a website to find maps and some random persons gamer tag just to download the maps/game types. - Worse Maps in a halo game to date. - 343s Pro team who decide what goes and what stay. They need to go. - Worse Halo campaign to date, CoD has better campaigns. - No split screen just because you don’t use it doesn’t mean other don’t. - Maga super nerfed vehicles. “Thats a nice scorpion tank you have there it would be a shame if and ran up and borded it.” You can’t even shoot people off of you. - Bad ranking system. - Bad banning system. - lack of playlists. - The fact the game is just now getting new gamemodes. - The fact people had to beg for months for things that should have been in at launch.
I could keep going. I’m sorry for the rant and how badly worded this post was but I just want halo to be great like it used to be. It’s sad seeing people leave the game behind for better games when halo used to be the best.
I been playing halo since I was 7 and it came out in 2001 I literally grew up with halo. Seeing it dying like it is really gets to me. Even I am moving on. I’ll have to get my fix for arena games from Doom for now on.
Do you guys also feel like 343 is killing halo and just milking it because of its name?
I started playing Halo CE since launch and I just turned 18 years old. I personally feel 343 INDUSTRIES is doing fine with Halo. My least favorite Halo title was H3 and this does not mean I hated it. I just did not like it out of the three available at the time. ODST became my favorite in the series next to H:CE. I enjoyed Reach but was not big on the multiplayer but I did play online. I thought the maps were awesome by 343. I enjoyed H:CE anniversary, a lot. My play time has shorten since I’ve gotten older but I’m still a gamer. MCC is still awesome to me regardless of the online failure at launch. The UI experience is awesome and like I said unwashed okay with not playing the multiplayer at the time. I purchased that for H2A, everything else was awesome sauce for me.
H4 became my new favorite in the series. It blew me away and I felt like it was a New Halo with memorable Halo moment’s from the past. H5G is awesome to play and I enjoyed the vision for the campaign. A lot of moving parts for the story even though a lot of Halo fans don’t appreciate it. As long as H6 goes deep, dark and blows me away I’m good but that’s just me.
My only issues with Halo 5 so far are #1 the maps just suck. There are very few that are good. Halo 5 ranks in last place to me as far as multiplayer maps go. #2 majority of the armor looks like crap. #3 every thing is in reqs. Need more unlocks via game play. #4 more achievements for campaign. What happened to max score and par time? Would like to see more achievements over all. I can’t be the only one who cares about halo gamer score. That is really about it.
Honestly, if 343 doesn’t want to stick to Halo’s roots, then I will play the games that do. 343 should be very worried about Doom as well, considering that Doom will be Halo’s first direct competition in its own territory; arena style games. And unlike H5, seems to have stuck to it’s roots.
I just miss split screen SOOOOOOO much. its so sad that I cant have halo nights with my friends anymore cause its too expensive for everyone to buy Xbox ones AND H5 AND a gold account. I just wanna play customs with my bros.
I think Halo 5’s biggest problem is its garbage servers. Campaign gameplay wise started okay, and then got really repetitive and forgettable. Just like Halo 4 it lacks replay ability especially with the Warden fights already being so repetitive in themselves. 343 ruined theater mode so you can not permanently save films and even if you watch them immediately after the match it still records things wrong.
I strongly disagree with you is regarding the pro team. When it comes to gameplay design Halo 5 is pretty good. When it comes to features and things that real devs are in charge of the game fails miserably. We have a broken theater mode, no file browser, lack of social playlists, poor server structure, lack of ping bars. The problems are not related to the pro team in any way.
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> Halo 5s major problems.
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> - Its Greedy
> - Its way over competitive I mean CS:GO is less competitive then halo 5.
> - It has the best halo forge to date but that means nothing without a file browser. I really hate having to go to a website to find maps and some random persons gamer tag just to download the maps/game types.
> - Worse Maps in a halo game to date.
> - 343s Pro team who decide what goes and what stay. They need to go.
> - Worse Halo campaign to date, CoD has better campaigns.
I disagree, but that is a much longer convo than I want to have right now. Just saying its greedy doesn’t make it so. Microtransactions are not nessesarily greedy, and they don’t split the fanbase with paid DLC. And let’s be honest, we all know who’s really behind the paying for REQ packs (-Yoink!-).
That is just SOOOOOO not true. I seriously question if you’ve ever played Counter Strike. If you have, you don’t remember. Casual on CS:GO is more competetive, toxic and hostile than Champion level Team Slayer on Halo 5. It is not even close.
This is so stupid. You had to either look for it online or get it from a friend of a friend before when Bungie did it. Does no one remember except me? The only difference was that Bungie had it consolidated on their website, rather than relying on outside sources to get news on forge. You still had to watch videos on the maps, but you could put them on your account from bungie.net.
That is so subjective. I think that some are lackluster, and they are certainly lacking in number, but I love some of the maps. Empire/Eden, Regret, Truth (I know, I know, but I still love it in H5 as much as the others), Plaza, and Coliseum are all fantastic. The forge maps are what is disappointing. Except the Standoff remake. That is awesome.
Disagree. It is an eSport, and they do need to care what the pros think. Plus, the pros know way more about sightlines and good (Halo) map design than you or I will ever know.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NO. I flat out did not like this campaign, but no. Don’t even joke about that. That’s blasphemy. Besides, it leaves us at an interesting place for continuing the saga. I remember all of the people complaining about the Halo 2 ending when it came out. Now its everyone’s favorite main trilogy story. It sucks while we wait, but I get the feeling that when we finish Halo 6, like 3, we will say “OOOOoohhhhh, I see why they did this and this and that.” It has happened once before, it’ll likely happen again. I’ll eat my words if I’m wrong.
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> My only issues with Halo 5 so far are #1 the maps just suck. There are very few that are good. Halo 5 ranks in last place to me as far as multiplayer maps go. #2 majority of the armor looks like crap. #3 every thing is in reqs. Need more unlocks via game play. #4 more achievements for campaign. What happened to max score and par time? Would like to see more achievements over all. I can’t be the only one who cares about halo gamer score. That is really about it.
For the achievements, what are you talking about? I thought the achievements were great this time around. Some were actually really fun to do. Despite missing par time and par score, nearly ALL of the achievements were campaign-based. There’s like 5-7 MP achievements.
Last year they mentioned they have plans to continue Halo for at least 30 more years. As long as they’ve still got stories to tell and fun experiences worthy of creating, I don’t consider that milking.
Personally, I really enjoy having such a long-lasting franchise. It gives me something to consistently be excited about, and something to be proud of. I’ll never find anything that interests me as much as Halo again.
All we know for future Halo games specifically is that Halo 6 will tell a more ‘human’ story, rather than the action-packed, galaxy-wide story Halo 5 told.
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> i dont know wtf they are doing but if this is exactly how the game is gonna be & and be handled like I dont want to be part of it.
I could have gone into a lot more detail with this post if I stat down and really thought about it… It was more of a rant then anything and I’m sure other people on this forum could word it better but I agree. I don’t Like how 343 handles the game I mean EA… EA!!! is care more about the players and games then 343.
no solo queue. region lock… catering to na teams. first 3 months i could play pros (in ffa as there is no solo queue) and challenge myself. now i have 0% chance of matching any na pro in matchmaking as i’m from eu. 3 hour search time for 1 game (legit) . nice
Well 343’s plan is to make Halo games because Microsoft pays them to. Since Microsoft literally formed 343 with the sole purpose of making Halo games, they’ll do that until Microsoft is done with them. Microsoft needs to make a profit so 343 will do their best to make a decent game that is both enjoyable and profitable.
The simple answer to the question is they are franchising Halo, so MS can continue to compete with the superior playstation. While doing so, they have been told to create a game that draws in all variety of player like COD. Unfortunately I’ve been playing for too long to let go… so deal with the frustration I must
343 pro team doesn’t really have that much say. You have no clue what you are talking about and this post is pretty terrible. If you don’t like it don’t play it
343i care more about making money through reqs than they do about making a decent game play experience and as a result are running halo into the ground
and judging from the fact H5 can’t even crack the top 10 most played games on xbl four months after launch and hasn’t cracked the top five since a month after launch I’d say a lot of people agree with me
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> 343 pro team doesn’t really have that much say. You have no clue what you are talking about and this post is pretty terrible. If you don’t like it don’t play it
The pro team are the ones that brought us the new “awesome” aiming mechanic and also decided to make it AR pistol starts and have had heavy influence on map design
they em have a huge say in the multiplayer aspect of the game why do you think they were hired for?
