what if the automatics were treated as secondaries?
rifles for primary, but then you have to pick form
ar
boltshot
storm rifle
pp
supresser
magnum
most of the pistols have a specific ability that make them better than a automatic, one shot kill boltshot? or ar
storm rifle, or long distance magnum?
any thoughts on this idea?
It would make more sense. Seeing as automatics are niche weapons. The only time I personally use an Automatic is as a secondary anyway.
It would really change how some of the maps would play, along with the fact that it would not necessarily be over powered.
Its quicker to swap to pistols.
magnum, dmr, boltshot both have faster kill times than ar
suppressor has NO range
suppressor is VERY niche based.
all automatics have very shallow magazines.
It would make more sense and it would balance out the whole thing of people being able to start with a plasma pistol. But if various assault rifle type guns are getting a buff maybe not because they might become more useful.
i think they might need to tweak them, but with the less aim assist nerf i think it will go well. the damage buff i believe would just put it on par with the dmr’s kill time, suppressor and storm rifle already kill faster, but with reduced magnetism it would be a lot more punishing if the person could not aim, and hey it might finally get rid of double melee
I really dont think the automatics will ever be on par with the rifles, look at the saw. op, in a way yes but often you still get 5 shot when you have the saw
anyone have any ideas how to balance an automatic as a secondary, while still remaining usefull?
I use LightRifle and Storm Rifle.
And what your suggesting allows me to not need Firepower, and I can instead have something else, like Grenadier so I can have a second Pulse Grenade, or AA Efficiency so my Autosentry appears way more often to help me way more often?
I get what you’re saying, OP, but Firepower was a great move by 343i.
> It would make more sense and it would balance out the whole thing of people being able to start with a plasma pistol. But if various assault rifle type guns are getting a buff maybe not because they might become more useful.
And, that is why we have Firepower…I rock with the AR/BR combo. If someone is worried about running out of bullets, add Ammo. Ammo helps with ODs too in that those weapons come with more ammo than normal. And, for those who don’t realize it, that adds ammo to the set map pickups (world ordnances) as well.
Nope, that’s what Fire Power is for. I use it and its not underpowered.
So considering that automatics may be getting a boost, making players not need “fire power” would be pretty unfair. Click for video of “FirePower”------
What could be sweet is a “Small Arms” version of Fire Power that lets you take two side arms with a spare clip each or something. That would be yoinkin awesome
The automatic weapons in this game are very potent within their intended niche. The Magnum exists for this reason; to round-out an AR class.
Firepower would still be useful for those who want two primary precision weapons, plus with the balancing that’s to come, that actually could be a useful setup too.
Autos as secondaries is a logical idea.
the only thing with firepower is that the precision rifles are BETTER than any automatic will ever be, just due to their versatility. they are not equal, just how it is. I use firepower sometimes when I feel like it, but I usually have to choose between
firepower
wheel-man
dexterity
requisition
Mobility
shield
Why would i use firepower when i might drive a vehicle?
or requisition?
Automatics just dont quite feel use full in team slayer simply due to team br/dmr
> the only thing with firepower is that the precision rifles are BETTER than any automatic will ever be, just due to their versatility. they are not equal, just how it is. I use firepower sometimes when I feel like it, but I usually have to choose between
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> firepower
> wheel-man
> dexterity
> requisition
> Mobility
> shield
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> Why would i use firepower when i might drive a vehicle?
> or requisition?
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> Automatics just dont quite feel use full in team slayer simply due to team br/dmr
If you are on a map with vehicles… Fire Power shouldn’t even cross your mind because of Plasma Pistol.
Why not SMG and Plasma Rifle?
> > the only thing with firepower is that the precision rifles are BETTER than any automatic will ever be, just due to their versatility. they are not equal, just how it is. I use firepower sometimes when I feel like it, but I usually have to choose between
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> > firepower
> > wheel-man
> > dexterity
> > requisition
> > Mobility
> > shield
> >
> > Why would i use firepower when i might drive a vehicle?
> > or requisition?
> >
> > Automatics just dont quite feel use full in team slayer simply due to team br/dmr
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> If you are on a map with vehicles… Fire Power shouldn’t even cross your mind because of Plasma Pistol.
you just hit the nail on the head there sir. If i have my spartan slaying machine, aka opdmr. why would i need an ar? why would i even consider firepower? it not balanced it is useless. the only time i use it is if i fell nostalgic about it. same thing with the warthog. I am sure you guys know how hard it is to get a gunner on a hog.
> It would make more sense. Seeing as automatics are niche weapons. The only time I personally use an Automatic is as a secondary anyway.
Why?
Precision weapons are meant for range combat.
Automatic weapons are meant for close quarters combat.
They both seem like 2 distinct primary weapons.
Interesting idea but I’m not sold just yet. I’m worried the automatics would make the hand guns essentiall useless (save for the PP on vehicle maps).
I would rather they tune things so that handguns/autos/rifles behave within a well defined range of close range/medium range/long range.
Now if you could start with one of each, then I’d probably like to take that for a spin. No idea how you’d implement it, though.