What If Infinity went Awol? Halo 5 theories.

So we’ve seen the trailers, at least I think all of us has, and I wanted to point out the things I’ve noticed and or came up with regarding the trailer.

The Huds: The Huds I believe to be the most compelling evidence we have regarding the trailers what they have to tell us. One thing I noticed was that Master chief is using his new Hud. We can tell because it includes his new extra health bar/ secondary shield on his screen. But something else I’ve noticed is that if you look at per se agent Locke’s hud, it has space on either side of his health and sheilds. This is interesting to note, because right of the hud, as we saw in the beta, when a spartan uses thrusters, and Indicater flashes to show that they’re charging. Locke has room for this indicator on his hud, and in Chiefs trailer you’ll even notice his thrusters malfunctioning and firing a lot.

But if you view chief’s hid, the spot where thruster indicators are have no space, implying the chief has no thrusters. Now this isn’t news to some people, because he never had, but some thought he might because in halo 4 for example, he learned how to sprint and assassinate, etc. implying he’ll basically gain the abilities of Spartans in the new game. But 343 has seemingly chosen to respect cannon as they have been doing recently and have chosen to not have chief magically have thrusters. That means that in campaign, chief wouldn’t be able to groundpound, hover, shoulder charge, thrust, and it may have affected his sprinting too.

In the Beta, when Spartans sprinted, their thrusters kicked in to keep them going (btw for all those guys who said halo was not following the definition of sprint you are correct still, but at least this explains why they can keep at a high velocity for so long). Chief not having thruster will mean one of 2 things. Either A, he’ll have limited sprinting like in halo 4, or B, they’ll completely ignore that fact and he’ll be able to sprint forever anyway.

Infinity: This is just a really big speculation here, but noticing again on the huds, Master Chief is shown blank on Locke’s radar, but Locke shows as a friendly on Chief’s. Chief must not be completely away from the UNSC then, because why else would he keep UNSC friendly tags on. Like, even thinking tactically, yes it would show all UNSC troops even if they weren’t moving on his hud, so he’d know better where they are, but the Devs wouldn’t do that because it would be a lot for the player to digest when you realize that the yellow tag the means friendly now can be enemies as well. So why is it still on for UNSC troops then? Well the answer could be one of 2 things. 1, he’s not completely gone and only Oni has him targeted, or 2 (my idea) Infinity has defected with chief.
This can be relevant when you realize that the Infinity is run by Captin Lasky, and knowing Halo 4, Lasky has helped Cheif before. Just this time could be more bold. And as far as I’m concerned about the whole, the Infinity on fire, I can’t help but be nit picky, because looking at it. It just isn’t right. First off all the fire seems to be on the Engines only, like instead of blue lights it’s red. And with all that Damage, how is it still flying? I could be the artists messed up the Engine colors (doubt it though) maybe on purpose so it didn’t clash against the skyline. It could be that the ship is using a different propulsion this time while in atmospere, or maybe it’s actually on fire and I’m just being too picky. This good be a reason though why chief kept friendlies on, because he actually has allies he could use it with. I could add more detail, but just think on that.

Music: Just a little tid bit for all those who think the Halo music went to heck with 343. Did anyone notice that in Chief’s trailer, you can hear modified oldschool halo music. Someone heard that the music was missing a little halo in it, so they’re addressing that. Sure the music is still pretty different, but this also a new generation of Halo.

That’s all I remember I had to say off the top of my head, can’t wait to hear what you all think. Cya in the comments.

Any thoughts?

Late to the party, pal. This has been covered to the grave.

Ah well, i hadn’t personally seen these ideas yet, so that why I plastered this here.

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> Ah well, i hadn’t personally seen these ideas yet, so that why I plastered this here.

The info of the Infinity was good though. Also saying the Chief probably doesn’t have thrusters.

Anyone else, sorry, I’m just wondering if anyone else has thoughts about this. Thanks ^ for the input btw, nice to know some of what I said makes sense.

Also in the masterchief trailer you can notice that the environment is yellowish;however, in the Agent Lock trailer you can see that the environment there looks bluish,which I think both match the respective characters’ visor colors.

Also the music in the Lock trailer seemed more dark and tense.

Valid point

Yeah, the 3.5 mile long UNSC flagship with 17,000 crew members totally went AWOL (sarcasm). Just saying…

It actually is possible, considering where the story leaves off in Escalation and given the history of the Chief and Lasky. I wouldn’t be shocked if this were to be the case, though I expect this to develop at some later point in time during the game. There will probably be a division in the ranks in all the races, as everyone is forced with difficult decisions and hard truths. Locke and Chief seemingly represent these two differing ideologies.

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> Yeah, the 3.5 mile long UNSC flagship with 17,000 crew members totally went AWOL (sarcasm). Just saying…

That size is utterly meaningless in space, by the way.

It would be difficult to take Infinity off the grid, but it’s certainly not impossible. Depending on the crew’s cooperation, they could get Infinity out of the UNSC/ONI’s monitoring area. Have their AIs disable tracking systems and stop transmitting.

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Yeah right. Lasky is totally going to say, "Hey 8,954 naval guys 6,021 marines, 1699 Intelligence personnel, and 477 civilians, and hundreds of spartans, we are going to help master chief. (sarcasm to the MAX). Roland is totally not going to report anyone…

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Why is that so far fetched when Lasky has already undermined the ranking authorities several times already, and the crew of the Infinity has either unknowingly aided him or directly covered for him? The biggest factor is Roland, but even Halsey proved that he could easily be overridden or reprogrammed for nefarious purposes.

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> Yeah right. Lasky is totally going to say, "Hey 8,954 naval guys 6,021 marines, 1699 Intelligence personnel, and 477 civilians, and hundreds of spartans, we are going to help master chief. (sarcasm to the MAX). Roland is totally not going to report anyone…

It depends who’s leading the movement or how they let everyone know.

If Locke and Chief ultimately team up and go to Lasky, they would have good reason. If they expose ONI or confirm that something more important is coming, the crew can easily come willingly. Those that don’t could be contained.

Roland could either agree as well, he’s a Smart AI too. He could decide what’s the best option. If needed, he could be overriden anyway. Undid Iridium. Maybe Locke has security codes. Maybe Lasky has security codes. Or they just disconnect him entirely.

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> Roland could either agree as well, he’s a Smart AI too. He could decide what’s the best option. If needed, he could be overriden anyway. Undid Iridium. Maybe Locke has security codes. Maybe Lasky has security codes. Or they just disconnect him entirely.

Yeah, point is, there’s a number of scenarios that I could see Lasky and the Infinity working in direct contradiction to the UNSC rank and file.

Well, I know it’s a lot, but Captins taking command over for the right reasons rather than wrong ones is a thing that has happened before. In Star trek (one of the next generation movies) Picard defies orders to aid in the assault of the borg. The whole ship may not completely comply, but if the Captin said something was up, and told his crew that he was going to do something, depending on Lasky’s rep he might actually get the crew to assist him in aiding chief. It also may have been a last minute decision as well, who knows. But this are just theories, and I’ll put more weight on this than a surviving flash clone.

Another point in terms of the crew: we already have several examples of them going by their own agenda, like Halloween G has said.

Lasky disobeying Del Rio and giving Chief a Pelican and clear escape route. The entire crew ignoring Del Rio’s order to arrest Chief as he walks into a Pelican and leaves Infinity. Lasky planning to ignore Osman’s assassination order on Halsey. Palmer ignoring Lasky’s order to stand down on Halsey’s assassination.

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> Another point in terms of the crew: we already have several examples of them going by their own agenda, like Halloween G has said.
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Lasky evidently not giving the full story to the UNSC regarding his recovery of the Chief after the events in Halo 4 (talked about in Escalation), Palmer covering up for Lasky’s direct contradicting order to stand down on Halsey’s assassination claiming that she missed her mark, Lasky evidently preparing to cover up for Palmer in Escalation #16 for her botched attempt to bring Halsey down again, and other instances, not to mention Lasky’s inherent distrust for ONI due to the pirating colony setup in Escalation and his contempt for a lot of the officers in the UNSC’s ranking leadership.

I don’t think the issue here is whether or not Lasky or Palmer would commit a treasonous act in assisting the Chief, because it’s pretty clear that they would. The issue, rather, is whether or not they could get the entire Infinity crew behind their decision. I think under the right circumstances, they could, given that to this point in time in every story told, the crew appears by and large to either be complacent with decisions made at the top, or a complete non-factor for whatever other reason.

also infinity is an ONI ship of all things. there’s no way that its going awol

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> also infinity is an ONI ship of all things. there’s no way that its going awol

Infinity is a joint ONI-UNSC project.

Besides, it being ONI doesn’t make it impossible to take off the grid with the right cooperation, timing, and resources. See the posts above.
It’s very possible Infinity would be capable of going AWOL.