Halo boomer here and I have to ask what the h**l is this game? I decided to get reach when MCC was released and because it doesn’t have all the Halo games yet, I decided to boot up my almost unused Xbox to play all the games again. I had a blast playing Halo CE, 2, 3 and even 4. This made me decide to play Halo 5 again and see how that has come along. WOW, nothing like any of the other Halo games. It’s like Halo 4 but times 10 with the aim assist and bullet magnetism.
My first few games in and I’m like why is it only Magnums for 90% of the kills in the games and why are people passing up BRs and such? Now I know why would you when the magnum can map you and has just about the same ttk. Do not get me wrong I wasn’t getting booty rocked. I was killing people with nothing but the Magnum. I even started seeing how far away from the person’s head I can shoot and still register a hit. Man is it forgiving! Is this what Infinite will be like? If so and I’m speaking for me, I won’t be playing Halo Infinite that much other than checking out the story and not much more.
Please don’t let Infinite be anything like this games multiplayer. I fell back in love with Halo when MCC dropped on PC and was getting all hyped. Halo 5 made me question that Halo has gone the way of the Dodo when it comes to being a skillfull. Halo 5 is just to easy, cheesy and got boring for me really quick. It made me remember why I only played it for like a month when it released. I have faith that 343 can make the best Halo ever. This version, the Halo 5 version of MP, you have to rethink that. This is all just my opinion and I want to hear what others have to say. Do you enjoy the game the way it is? Do you want this version for infinite or something along the lines of Halo 3 and 4? Thanks all and good luck with Infinite 343.
About the BR is because 343 nerfed it, but about Halo 5 is easy? haha I dont think so, this game has more skill gap compared to anothers Halo multiplayers, I know why you write this post with a fake account I think you are silver in your real account
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> I see exactly zero halo 5 games in your service record. Seems like you’re just regurgitating other people’s opinions.
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Yeah I have two accounts. One for goofing off and the other for streaming and content creation. Even still, I have played one day of Halo 5 in a ranked playlist and I’m Diamond 5 on this account. Not bad for someone regurgitating other’s opinions as you put it.
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> Every game has changed. Each is highly enjoyable. I’ve loved all the campaigns outside of ODST.
Campaign was “ok” at best in Halo 5 compared to the other installments. Still it looks amazing.
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> About the BR is because 343 nerfed it, but about Halo 5 is easy? haha I dont think so, this game has more skill gap compared to anothers Halo multiplayers, I know why you write this post with a fake account I think you are silver in your real account
Bullet magnetism is too strong or maybe that’s how consoles have always been and it just feels easier since I left for PC and came back to play these games. I’ve just watched a few youtube videos earlier pointing out that it was slightly different in other Halos but it was still there. So yeah, I will take back what I said about magnetism. Still, not a fake account and I qualified Diamond 3 for my first ranked playlist and I’ve VERY confident I can in all the other playlists. Took me only a few hours to hit Diamond 5 so yeah…
Sucks that they nerfed BRs from what you are telling me, but thought it was a good decision to have magnums be the dominate gun in this game with no range falloff? It just leads to other guns never being used and that is what I have observed so far. Thank you for responding and giving me a little insight, even though the impression you got was I am just a scrub who needs to “get good”. Just an FYI I use to play Halo tourneys back in the day and placed fairly well, no major MLG tourneys or anything like that. So you can say I was semi-pro for Halo.
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> Yeah I have two accounts. One for goofing off and the other for streaming and content creation. Even still, I have played one day of Halo 5 in a ranked playlist and I’m Onyx 5 on this account. Not bad for someone regurgitating other’s opinions as you put it.
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> > About the BR is because 343 nerfed it, but about Halo 5 is easy? haha I dont think so, this game has more skill gap compared to anothers Halo multiplayers, I know why you write this post with a fake account I think you are silver in your real account
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> Bullet magnetism is too strong or maybe that’s how consoles have always been and it just feels easier since I left for PC and came back to play these games. I’ve just watched a few youtube videos earlier pointing out that it was slightly different in other Halos but it was still there. So yeah, I will take back what I said about magnetism. Still, not a fake account and I qualified Onyx 3 for my first ranked playlist and I’ve VERY confident I can in all the other playlists. Took me only a few hours to hit Onyx 5 so yeah…
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> Sucks that they nerfed BRs from what you are telling me, but thought it was a good decision to have magnums be the dominate gun in this game with no range falloff? It just leads to other guns never being used and that is what I have observed so far. Thank you for responding and giving me a little insight, even though the impression you got was I am just a scrub who needs to “get good”. Just an FYI I use to play Halo tourneys back in the day and placed fairly well, no major MLG tourneys or anything like that. So you can say I was semi-pro for Halo.
What’s onyx 5? There are no tiers for onyx. Also the max you can get after 10 placement matches is diamond 3. How many matches did you play there boss?
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> > Yeah I have two accounts. One for goofing off and the other for streaming and content creation. Even still, I have played one day of Halo 5 in a ranked playlist and I’m Onyx 5 on this account. Not bad for someone regurgitating other’s opinions as you put it.
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> > > About the BR is because 343 nerfed it, but about Halo 5 is easy? haha I dont think so, this game has more skill gap compared to anothers Halo multiplayers, I know why you write this post with a fake account I think you are silver in your real account
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> > Bullet magnetism is too strong or maybe that’s how consoles have always been and it just feels easier since I left for PC and came back to play these games. I’ve just watched a few youtube videos earlier pointing out that it was slightly different in other Halos but it was still there. So yeah, I will take back what I said about magnetism. Still, not a fake account and I qualified Onyx 3 for my first ranked playlist and I’ve VERY confident I can in all the other playlists. Took me only a few hours to hit Onyx 5 so yeah…
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> > Sucks that they nerfed BRs from what you are telling me, but thought it was a good decision to have magnums be the dominate gun in this game with no range falloff? It just leads to other guns never being used and that is what I have observed so far. Thank you for responding and giving me a little insight, even though the impression you got was I am just a scrub who needs to “get good”. Just an FYI I use to play Halo tourneys back in the day and placed fairly well, no major MLG tourneys or anything like that. So you can say I was semi-pro for Halo.
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> What’s onyx 5? There are no tiers for onyx. Also the max you can get after 10 placement matches is diamond 3. How many matches did you play there boss?
Edited my post, still getting use to the ranks. At the moment I have 20-30 games in the Mythic playlist. That gamemode feels awesome and is what I expect when I play any Halo game. Can someone tell me how long it takes for your stats to update on your service record?
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> > > > I see exactly zero halo 5 games in your service record. Seems like you’re just regurgitating other people’s opinions.
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> > > Yeah I have two accounts. One for goofing off and the other for streaming and content creation. Even still, I have played one day of Halo 5 in a ranked playlist and I’m Onyx 5 on this account. Not bad for someone regurgitating other’s opinions as you put it.
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> > > > About the BR is because 343 nerfed it, but about Halo 5 is easy? haha I dont think so, this game has more skill gap compared to anothers Halo multiplayers, I know why you write this post with a fake account I think you are silver in your real account
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> > > Bullet magnetism is too strong or maybe that’s how consoles have always been and it just feels easier since I left for PC and came back to play these games. I’ve just watched a few youtube videos earlier pointing out that it was slightly different in other Halos but it was still there. So yeah, I will take back what I said about magnetism. Still, not a fake account and I qualified Onyx 3 for my first ranked playlist and I’ve VERY confident I can in all the other playlists. Took me only a few hours to hit Onyx 5 so yeah…
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> > > Sucks that they nerfed BRs from what you are telling me, but thought it was a good decision to have magnums be the dominate gun in this game with no range falloff? It just leads to other guns never being used and that is what I have observed so far. Thank you for responding and giving me a little insight, even though the impression you got was I am just a scrub who needs to “get good”. Just an FYI I use to play Halo tourneys back in the day and placed fairly well, no major MLG tourneys or anything like that. So you can say I was semi-pro for Halo.
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> > What’s onyx 5? There are no tiers for onyx. Also the max you can get after 10 placement matches is diamond 3. How many matches did you play there boss?
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> Edited my post, still getting use to the ranks. At the moment I have 20-30 games in the playlist.
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> OP, you don’t have any H5 data. I HIGHLY doubt you played Halo 5 before
You’re right, I was on my main account and thought I was ranking this one. My bad, I was wondering why my stats were not updating, lol. All good, I did my matches and got Diamond 3 again if that matters so much and to prove i could do it. Really hard to get wins though when you only play against Champion players grouped up.
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> You’re right, I was on my main account and thought I was ranking this one. My bad, I was wondering why my stats were not updating, lol. All good, I did my matches and got Diamond 3 again if that matters so much and to prove i could do it. Really hard to get wins though when you only play against Champion players grouped up.
You know we can all see the players ranks in every match you played eh? Zero groups of champions there. You’re clearly a capable player but this thread is comical. Also you just played the least halo 5-like playlist that has ever been in this game.
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> > You’re right, I was on my main account and thought I was ranking this one. My bad, I was wondering why my stats were not updating, lol. All good, I did my matches and got Diamond 3 again if that matters so much and to prove i could do it. Really hard to get wins though when you only play against Champion players grouped up.
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> You know we can all see the players ranks in every match you played eh? Zero groups of champions there. You’re clearly a capable player but this thread is comical. Also you just played the least halo 5-like playlist that has ever been in this game.
Wow you can then you clearly don’t have eyes and see that my last 2 matches has champs in it. Thats not the point of my whole post. You brought up what my rank was. I wanted to know why the game only has magnums as the go to weapon. It is dumb how even if I had bronze rating, it still doesnt take away ffrom my original post about the game.
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> Every game has changed. Each is highly enjoyable. I’ve loved all the campaigns outside of ODST.
Ehhh. Halo 5s story was a hot pile of garbage. There’s a reason Brian Reed isn’t with 343 anymore. Frankie was even on record as saying “we don’t know where we’re headed.”
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> Ehhh. Halo 5s story was a hot pile of garbage. There’s a reason Brian Reed isn’t with 343 anymore. Frankie was even on record as saying “we don’t know where we’re headed.”
And that’s fine and all but I’ve always appreciated the campaigns for their unique characteristics. I always love getting the weird achievements, finding skulls & terminals, & other Easter eggs. H5 is fine IMO. If anything it could’ve been longer.
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> And that’s fine and all but I’ve always appreciated the campaigns for their unique characteristics. I always love getting the weird achievements, finding skulls & terminals, & other Easter eggs. H5 is fine IMO. If anything it could’ve been longer.
I think the debate about the campaign is a forgone conclusion imo, and that it is just a horrible story. Achievements with all the easter eggs, terminals, and skulls are easy to place in the game, but due to how bad the story was I never even bothered to try and look for any of those things at release and now. Multiplayer in Halo was a staple to the franchise just as much as the campaign. If feels just as bad as the story, to me. I always enjoyed telling people who liked to say COD takes skill and would point out that in Halo you can counter someone who shot you first and that it requires way more skill. The ttk in this game FEELS lower than the others and while you can still counter, just not as much as you use to. I may be wrong on the TTK being lower so feel free to correct me.
In this Halo I feel nothing for this game like I did with the previous ones, story and MP. This may have been debated back when the game released, but it feels like 343 thought the jetpacking and speed you saw in call of duty is what people wanted in FPS games and that they should follow that model. They did a much better job than COD, but still time told that the majority of players enjoyed boots on the ground more than anything. I think the pace of this game feels okay, but the lack of lethality for other guns being viable just ruins it for me since returning. By that I mean I shouldn’t feel like the guns placed in the map are meaningless when I can just use my magnum and compete with other guns at medium to long ranges.
I feel like at this point I should at least offer one suggestion and that is, that whatever update they did to nerf other weapons and buff magnum needs to be reverted to some degree. I have nothing but love for the Halo community and the franchise and my frustrations are only because I know it can be done better. Halo 5 with its Microtransactions being in my face at all times and lack of guns (because MAGNUMS op) is not going to hold up well if they have any model like this in the future. This is all my opinion, take care Spartans.
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> > > You’re right, I was on my main account and thought I was ranking this one. My bad, I was wondering why my stats were not updating, lol. All good, I did my matches and got Diamond 3 again if that matters so much and to prove i could do it. Really hard to get wins though when you only play against Champion players grouped up.
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> Wow you can then you clearly don’t have eyes and see that my last 2 matches has champs in it. Thats not the point of my whole post. You brought up what my rank was. I wanted to know why the game only has magnums as the go to weapon. It is dumb how even if I had bronze rating, it still doesnt take away ffrom my original post about the game.
This is obviously a smurf account. I grabbed 4 games where he matched Champs. Game 1 - Loss, that is expected going against two champs and having a teammate quit. Game 2 - Win, though he contributes the least. Game 3 - Loss Game 4 - Win, though the champ on the other team isn’t a true champ. I look at his service record this season and past seasons and you will see this is just the rank system screwing up. Of course, rank doesn’t matter in this game anymore.
I don’t know if this guy knows all about this game and is using this smurf to pretend or if he is legit. It could be possible that he is legit because it isn’t hard to get D4 in Mythic Arena.
Pistol range and accuracy is a huge problem. Hopefully that is addressed in the next iteration. No real reason to use any other weapon unless it’s a super.
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> Pistol range and accuracy is a huge problem. Hopefully that is addressed in the next iteration. No real reason to use any other weapon unless it’s a super.
I’d feel much better about the weapon if it had no ‘zoom’ feature. Otherwise I’d like to see it drastically different in Infinite.
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> I’d feel much better about the weapon if it had no ‘zoom’ feature. Otherwise I’d like to see it drastically different in Infinite.
Thank you both for just talking about the OP I made. I’ll say it again, that yes this is a smurf account I use for posting because my main account is used for content creation, streaming and articles. I do this because I do not want what I am posting about to be overlooked. I want to hear what others are thinking or correct me if I am wrong about something. Stats should mean nothing when talking about the state of a game and how it feels for players looking to come back and play, like me.
With the hype around Reach it makes sense that people would want to play all the Halo games again, campaign and MP. I am stating, out of all the Halo games the most recent, Halo 5 feels nothing like Halo with how the guns are in the game. This is only because someone decided the Magnum in its current state is what most players want!? I do not think that is true and I am wondering why has it been like this for like year and never changed, from what I have read?
The Magnum is an iconic Halo weapon. In Halo 5, the graphics and gunplay feel amazing and from what I am hearing they made the pistol OP because that is what the pros want or is what they liked in tourneys? This game, aside from the campaign should be the most played Halo at the moment. My only point is that with Magnum Meta the game feels nothing like Halo and it makes no sense to use other weapons because the Magnum is stronger and better than most guns in the game.
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> Halo boomer here and I have to ask what the h**l is this game? I decided to get reach when MCC was released and because it doesn’t have all the Halo games yet, I decided to boot up my almost unused Xbox to play all the games again. I had a blast playing Halo CE, 2, 3 and even 4. This made me decide to play Halo 5 again and see how that has come along. WOW, nothing like any of the other Halo games. It’s like Halo 4 but times 10 with the aim assist and bullet magnetism.
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> My first few games in and I’m like why is it only Magnums for 90% of the kills in the games and why are people passing up BRs and such? Now I know why would you when the magnum can map you and has just about the same ttk. Do not get me wrong I wasn’t getting booty rocked. I was killing people with nothing but the Magnum. I even started seeing how far away from the person’s head I can shoot and still register a hit. Man is it forgiving! Is this what Infinite will be like? If so and I’m speaking for me, I won’t be playing Halo Infinite that much other than checking out the story and not much more.
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> Please don’t let Infinite be anything like this games multiplayer. I fell back in love with Halo when MCC dropped on PC and was getting all hyped. Halo 5 made me question that Halo has gone the way of the Dodo when it comes to being a skillfull. Halo 5 is just to easy, cheesy and got boring for me really quick. It made me remember why I only played it for like a month when it released. I have faith that 343 can make the best Halo ever. This version, the Halo 5 version of MP, you have to rethink that. This is all just my opinion and I want to hear what others have to say. Do you enjoy the game the way it is? Do you want this version for infinite or something along the lines of Halo 3 and 4? Thanks all and good luck with Infinite 343.
To tackle a few of your points (coming from someone who feels Halo 5 is the best matchmaking experience to date):
The magnum being the go to weapon was essentially implemented due to 343 struggling to find a balance between the various weapons in the game.There were MANY weapon tunings that happened to the BRs and ARs. Essentially the magnum in this game replaced the BR because it was the most versatile and well-rounded weapon in the game. The competitive community agreed that they were satisfied with how it felt in terms of balanced gameplay but there was never an agreed upon implementation for the BR.
At one point the weapon was god-like and far too good. Then they made the spread too large and it was incredibly unreliable and trash. Then they tried to find a balance slightly in between but I believe it was left in a state that is still viewed as not as reliable as the magnum. There is no bullet drop in this game like Halo 3 has. Shots connecting is 100% based on reticle placement and bullet spread. With the magnum being a single bullet weapon (no spread to worry about), it became the main weapon. Obviously the behavior between a BR and magnum is different but from a competitive and fair gameplay POV it fits the bill of a weapon that allows you a fair fight and doesn’t screw you over off spawn (like playlists where you only have an AR).
This game has had one of the better balancing of weapons over the whole life cycle. They listened to various parts of the community and constantly tried to listen and tweak the weapons accordingly. That’s not always easy though. In my opinion, the AR in this game is one of the best and most balanced. In term so time to kill and aim it is very friendly to non competitive players. In a game like Halo 3 and some of the other games, the AR was absolute trash compared to the BR. There was no point in ever using it. It finally became viable in Halo 5. But, if you have better accuracy, I believe the magnum can outperform at various distances so long as you don’t miss. Thus, you’re rewarded for your skill in aiming, vs one that takes less skill to aim. Exactly how it should be.
The other thing you spoke about was magnetism. One of the best features in this game is incredibly apparent when you revisit the older Halo titles. That item, is damage feedback. This game provides you very visual feedback as to whether shots are registering and whether a player is “1” shot. No multiplayer is perfect when it comes to balancing player connections and various network lags. In First Person Shooters this is probably the most evident and most important. In this game you can clearly tell whether you are performing damage. This allows you feedback to know if you aren’t aiming properly, OR if you know you are, you can determine that there is something wrong with the connection of you, the server, or the enemy. With older Halo titles you aren’t always awarded with the appropriate UI components to demonstrate that damage has been done and it has actually registered.
Quick personal opinions. This is the best Halo matchmaking environment to date (though it’s not going to be in it’s best state right now due to all the tournaments being over, development cycles done, and player base dropped off massively). Once they finally got some of the map, weapon, and ability balancing done I think it’s my favourite PvP game to date. As far as campaign is concerned Halo 5 is the most disappointing Halo campaign experience I have ever had. I actually haven’t even been able to will myself to play it again (beat it day 1 the game came out), where as, I’ve beaten ever other Halo campaign probably over 5 times. I personally hope Halo Infinite keeps everything that his game had but without the ground pound and spartan charge ability. I don’t care what weapon they choose or reskin to me the “meta” weapon, so long as one if provided that allows viable fights off spawns.