What happened to halo's popularity?

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Halo for many reasons right now is failing and why player count is so low.

Before you become a mindless fanboy and start getting mad i am not saying halo 5 is a bad game, it is a well balanced solid shooter that i enjoy. I am criticizing the game because I want it to succeed

1) halo is trying to play catch up with other games by stealing features and following trends

  • Halo 5 is trying to be like other FPS games, with halo 5’s faster ttk, spartan charge, dash, ground pound, clamber. Its as if they are trying to make halo 5 compete with other games. Before halo was a unique first person shooter experience. You couldn’t sprint making the pacing different and unique. This caused it so easily co exist with call of duty and battlefield at the time. When you got tired of standard fps games you could go play halo 3 which was different in almost every way.2) forge isn’t what it could be

  • Forge in halo 5 is BEYOND amazing, halo 5 has massively improved on the forge system beyond what many thought possible, it is better than any other forge in any halo period. It is harder to use though than previous halo games, but that won’t affect the game’s sales. There are so many awesome maps I see on youtube that look like so much fun but… how do I (the average gamer) find 12 people to play with. Well previously in halo 3 every match i would look in everyone’s file share every match i played in infection and download stuff i thought would be fun, then send a message/invite to all recent players easily on the xbox 360 saying “infection lobby” finding a match for customs now includes, getting on your PC finding a cool map and matching game mode. Downloading it. Planning a date for you and your friends (if you have alot that play halo) to play or joining a community that plays them then setting up a date with that community and playing.It is too hard to get into custom game lobbies in halo 5.

3) ADVANCED MOVEMENT IS RUINING HALO’S UNIQUENESS

  • Don’t get me wrong, halo 5 is a good solid shooter even with all of the new mechanics, A halo with sprint isn’t bad. Sprint is balanced. Why is it bad then you ask? Sprinting advanced movement makes halo similar to to other games, halo is slowly getting a faster ttk with more one shot weapons instakill grenades etc I felt like halo was a entirely separate experience compared to other games i played. When i got tired of COD4 i would just got to halo 3 and play some infection BTB and maybe some slayer with some friends, win some matches and lose some which brings me to the next point.4) Arena is stressful.

  • In previous halo’s ranked matchmaking was an option, now whenever I play arena i feel as if i have to warm up and get ready for ranked matchmaking and when i lose it is very stressful since CSR is purely win loss ratio, i will go 15 and 5 on breakout while my team goes 0 and 10 and get demoted because I didn’t win. When this happens 3 matches in a row than it pisses me off so i just stop playing halo and go play BF4 so i can go fly a jet go 500000000 and 0 while my team loses but still have a good time, or same with cod. Losing isn’t stressful. This point was my personal opinion. And i’m sure many can agree. When im playing by myself and get put with a bad team and am getting demoted even though i am doing beyond good makes arena stressful and not fun after loosing three matches in a row and getting demoted even though my K/D was 2 or higher all of those matches.5) Lack of diversity in game modes

  • Despite how much content warzone provides, it still is only 2-3 game modes.

  • I feel as if people quit because if you don’t enjoy warzone or extremely competitive ranked matchmaking then you’re left with ONLY 4 game modes to play BTB, grifball, infection, campaign. While I LOVE halo lore. You can’t tell me that a 4+ hour campaign and 3-4 multiplayer game modes (4th is weekend playlist) is worth 60$. If you don’t like competitive arena then you ONLY have warzone and campaign. Despite how big warzone is i don’t know anyone who would pay 60$ for just warzone and campaign.6) warzone is too good?

  • So warzone, well balanced and great but I feel as if warzone is one of the main causes of the lack of game modes in halo 5. Im sure they spent a long time developing it and invested so much into it because they wanted it to be good to sell req packs, they have NO way of making money other than the game selling and REQ packs, the only way they can make money is REQ packs. While I have nothing against req packs i feel as if they limit the game for understandable reasons. 343I would be losing money and that is understandable, they cannot change their business model after the game comes out without spending alot of money.

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HOW TO FIX THESE ISSUES AND IDEAS FOR NEXT HALO GAME

1) and 3) How to fix halo’s unique combat style

Return even more to the basics. Remove sprint. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAwRp7Il4LY When halo was in its prime, sprint was going to be added in the game, the animations are in the game files for PC, But they didn’t add it. Why? It ruins the pacing. While I understand why 343 thought sprint would make a lot more people want the game, all it does is cause less sales due to halo being less unique. You can’t look to other games to be successful. Especially when the games TTK is so much different than other games.

All of my friends were huge halo 3 fans including me. We got halo 4, hated it so we stopped playing it and returned it to gamestop. Years later we got the halo 5 trailer. And we saw it and instantly just looked at the series as a joke. COD AW boost, Destiny’s ground pound, sprinting, and 24 player warzone? 24 players is not a lot for these days standards.

2) forge
Forge is amazing period. The only problem is being able to play yours or other creations with a full lobby or however many players are meant for the game type. NO OTHER GAME HAS ANYTHING LIKE FORGE (that i know of on console) if 343I made a system like i am about to say, it would have something no other game can say it has. Especially since halo still has a fairly decent sized forge community. UNLIMITED CONTENT

This is based of of Starcraft 2’s arcade system

Under multiplayer there could be an “arcade” option when you opened it there would be two sections browse games and open games

For the browse games you could select a category of custom game you wanted and having other filters like “top played” “Top rated” etc… when you selected a game there would be a info, reviews,pictures and bigger buttons for join a game or create a private game.

In the open games it would show all custom game lobbies that a player has opened to the public with lots of filter options like game mode variant, player count etc…

This would add literally endless content and 343 doesn’t have to make any of it except for the lobby system.

4) HOW TO FIX ARENA

Ranked Arena should not be the only classic halo experience available, at minimum offer an un ranked version of every playlist for casual play.

5) Lack in diversity of game modes

While this is slowly being fixed the next halo needs these game modes at launch. Plus if the arcade system I stated was used this wouldn’t be a problem.

6) warzone

343 is relying too much on warzone for their profits for this game. They need to remove the req and replace it with DLC so that way, then adding more game modes doesn’t = less money for 343
Less game modes means more people playing warzone more people playing warzone= more people experiencing the req system= more people buying req packs, more people.

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OP, I would suggest to get more people viewing your post, change the title. We’re all sick of hearing how bad the game is- and, although I completely agree with your points, when reading the title, I was not expecting to see the information you were giving. It’s an excellent post, just change the title.

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Great points. The idea of the custom game finder is brilliant and would add so much more to the game.

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what should i change it to? I really want people to see this and take it seriously

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In terms of multiplayer. Lack of gamemodes at launch is the major issue, not the whole sprint or no sprint in my opinion.Halo 5 was in the top 5 most streamed game at launch, now it is at place 94 on streamed games on twitch:(.

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> In terms of multiplayer. Lack of gamemodes at launch is the major issue, not the whole sprint or no sprint in my opinion.Halo 5 was in the top 5 most streamed game at launch, now it is at place 94 on streamed games on twitch:(.

Which is due to less people playing it and the fact that Halo is not a very fun game to spectate unless you’re into competitive. I believe the cause is an “ease of access” issue. It’s so difficult to get a lobby going in the first place and the extremely limited modes make it very fatiguing. I play Halo 5 daily and find myself wondering what to play based on what I’m less bored of. An action sack playlist full of crazy game types is a great solution but who knows when basic essentials such as a social slayer and doubles are missing.

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when any game comes out it is always viewed on twitch because big streamers play it. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Please 343 have had sensible posts since the dawn of time. I have posted 100s of insightful posts but bevause i an not a pro or a champ 343 have ignored every suggestion. The reason is that they dont care and the only thing that will make them realise is if we all boycotted the next game or lobby the pros to take up our issues-some are good at doing it but others are well arrogant and dont care much for the community, only themselves.

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12 million people already have boycotted the game.

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Very well said. I hope 343 Industries sees this post. Halo needs to return to the formula that originally made it so popular

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> Great points. The idea of the custom game finder is brilliant and would add so much more to the game.

I’ve thought of this for a while. This would drive Halo’s popularity through the roof.

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I see what this post is getting at but the advanced movement is not killing the game. Halo 5 is still very unique due to the vehicular combat and varying weapons mechanics.

I think they should place more emphasis on adding content to BTB as that is what sets the Halo series apart.

Riding to the enemy base with a full hog and a ghost, hopping out, busting in and grabbing that -Yoink!- with your boys, then speeding back to your base jumping over enemies…

That experience is what makes Halo 5 unique. The large scale balanced objective gameplay. Warzone is awesome, but it gets boring, and it doesn’t feel authentic. I feel like a hacker with an overshield, 2 speed boosts, and a bayonet.

Overall there is no way they are going to change the movement mechanics. They developed them and will stick with them. We can go back and play MCC to enjoy the classic Halo gameplay. Playing Halo One on xbox live is amazing!

The kind of feedback the game needs should be ideas for new maps and objectives. Especially how to tie in alternative objectives in to Warzone. Why can’t we have some crazy element of Assault or CTF combined in to the Warzone playlist?

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> > Great points. The idea of the custom game finder is brilliant and would add so much more to the game.
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> I’ve thought of this for a while. This would drive Halo’s popularity through the roof.

+1

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I have always wished for a custom game finder. There are so many times where I just want to hangout for a game pr two.

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Lack of playlists. Nuff said.