What H6 needs to be a success and build off H5

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Posted this list on Reddit and it got some really good positive feedback, and I don’t think any of these are unreasonable. Wondered what the thoughts of this board are ? Take not 343…

  1. WZFF, Infection, Griffball, Doubles and a true Social playlist at launch
  2. A more user friendly and polished UI
  3. Spartan charge nerf/radar buff
  4. More customization e.g. armour sets that can be broke down to chest, arms and leg pieces, undersuit colour selection, accessories (ammo pouches, holsters etc)
  5. A classic playlist
  6. A more refined Req system that strikes a better balance between RNG items and rewarding players for achievements and commendations etc
  7. A better supported BTB
  8. A proper file share system and showcase for forge creations
  9. Aiming. Get it sorted
  10. Splitscreen
  11. A tighter campaign story with less reliance on expanded material, with a bigger focus on the Master Chief
  12. Improved custom games and a theatre mode that actually works
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I think that, while Spartan Abilities work in Halo 5, they should be removed for Halo 6. Keep thrusters, and maybe Sprint, but eschew with Spartan Charge and Ground-Pound.

Otherwise, I agree with all of your points.

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While some of these are good ideas, these are not what Halo 6 needs. It’s what you want.
Getting sick of “Halo 5 needs this to be added to be great, This is what Halo 6 needs not to suck”. It’s all just your opinion.

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> The list looks pretty fine but I would like to add something onto number 4.
> The possibility to change the whole undersuit. I came up with this idea as soon as I saw the undersuit models in the campaign, they are looking pretty dark and also realistic with the armor. I know that it could be hard to implement such an option to the mp but I would be impressed from 343 if they could make a change to the customization options in general just as you wrote.

Would be a nice idea.

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> While some of these are good ideas, these are not what Halo 6 needs. It’s what you want.
> Getting sick of “Halo 5 needs this to be added to be great, This is what Halo 6 needs not to suck”. It’s all just your opinion.

Well yeah what else would it be ? Lol

But it happens to be an opinion that a hell of a lot of people share.

Would disagree H5 lacked content on launch and it’s customization lacks depth, I’m just trying to understand where you fall on this, or is H5 perfect for you ?

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> > While some of these are good ideas, these are not what Halo 6 needs. It’s what you want.
> > Getting sick of “Halo 5 needs this to be added to be great, This is what Halo 6 needs not to suck”. It’s all just your opinion.
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> Well yeah what else would it be ? Lol

I’m just saying, the title should be more along the lines of “What I want in Halo 6”

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> > > While some of these are good ideas, these are not what Halo 6 needs. It’s what you want.
> > > Getting sick of “Halo 5 needs this to be added to be great, This is what Halo 6 needs not to suck”. It’s all just your opinion.
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> > Well yeah what else would it be ? Lol
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> I’m just saying, the title should be more along the lines of “What I want in Halo 6”

Why should I state something that’s clearly obvious, to appease someone’s delicate sensibilities ? I don’t think so.

Also you understand that these are opinions that are shared by a lot of the commumity and also a lot of these were in previous installments ? And or were added late to Halo 5 ?

Why not try adding something worthwhile to the discussion or is H5 the perfect game for you ?

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> > > > While some of these are good ideas, these are not what Halo 6 needs. It’s what you want.
> > > > Getting sick of “Halo 5 needs this to be added to be great, This is what Halo 6 needs not to suck”. It’s all just your opinion.
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> > > Well yeah what else would it be ? Lol
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> > I’m just saying, the title should be more along the lines of “What I want in Halo 6”
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> Why should I state something that’s clearly obvious, to appease someone’s delicate sensibilities ? I don’t think so.
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> Also you understand that these are opinions that are shared by a lot of the commumity and also a lot of these were in previous installments ? And or were added late to Halo 5 ?
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> Why not try adding something worthwhile to the discussion or is H5 the perfect game for you ?

Okay.

A more user friendly and polished UI - I have no problem with the UI, not something that’s needed

Spartan charge nerf/radar buff - Not needed, both work fine

More customization e.g. armour sets that can be broke down to chest, arms and leg pieces, undersuit colour selection, accessories (ammo pouches, holsters etc) - In my opinion, what Halo 6 needs is CE customization where everyone looks the same, because then gameplay would be a higher focus and cosmetics are pointless.

A classic playlist - Go play a classic game. 100% Not needed, take off your nostalgia goggles.

A more refined Req system that strikes a better balance between RNG items and rewarding players for achievements and commendations etc - The REQ system works fine. If my customization need is met, the RNG for cosmetics won’t exist anyway.

A better supported BTB - BTB seems fine to me. Not needed.

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Personally I would leave the Spartan abilities as they are but I agree with the other points.
I would also like to see better skill matching and give players who carry a loosing team some xp

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> Posted this list on Reddit and it got some really good positive feedback, and I don’t think any of these are unreasonable. Wondered what the thoughts of this board are ? Take not 343…
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> 1. WZFF, Infection, Griffball, Doubles and a true Social playlist at launch
> 2. A more user friendly and polished UI
> 3. Spartan charge nerf/radar buff
> 4. More customization e.g. armour sets that can be broke down to chest, arms and leg pieces, undersuit colour selection, accessories (ammo pouches, holsters etc)
> 5. A classic playlist
> 6. A more refined Req system that strikes a better balance between RNG items and rewarding players for achievements and commendations etc
> 7. A better supported BTB
> 8. A proper file share system and showcase for forge creations
> 9. Aiming. Get it sorted
> 10. Splitscreen
> 11. A tighter campaign story with less reliance on expanded material, with a bigger focus on the Master Chief
> 12. Improved custom games and a theatre mode that actually works

So… Halo 5’s Campaign, but with “Master Chief will still be the main character” actually being true?

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You might see split screen with the Scorpio in H6, tough to do on the other consoles.

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> Posted this list on Reddit and it got some really good positive feedback, and I don’t think any of these are unreasonable. Wondered what the thoughts of this board are ? Take not 343…
>
> 1. WZFF, Infection, Griffball, Doubles and a true Social playlist at launch
> 2. A more user friendly and polished UI
> 3. Spartan charge nerf/radar buff
> 4. More customization e.g. armour sets that can be broke down to chest, arms and leg pieces, undersuit colour selection, accessories (ammo pouches, holsters etc)
> 5. A classic playlist
> 6. A more refined Req system that strikes a better balance between RNG items and rewarding players for achievements and commendations etc
> 7. A better supported BTB
> 8. A proper file share system and showcase for forge creations
> 9. Aiming. Get it sorted
> 10. Splitscreen
> 11. A tighter campaign story with less reliance on expanded material, with a bigger focus on the Master Chief
> 12. Improved custom games and a theatre mode that actually works

What H6 needs is for these things to be added into H5 as its way tooo soon to be talking H6 and theres plenty more they can do to H5 that will continue growing the player base as is currently happening with 5. Most games sell a tonne at the beginning of the game and then after 3 or 4 months everyone sort of has enough. With H5 the post launch support is showing a different way to go about handling a game that grows the daily active player base. There isn’t any reason to be talking about Halo 6 at the moment.

The main Halo games release every 2-3 years. Halo 5 hasnt been out for anywhere near that yet so lets get talking about what they can change in Halo 5 before people are even really thinking on to Halo 6 as currently that game should be quite a long way away.

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> > > > > While some of these are good ideas, these are not what Halo 6 needs. It’s what you want.
> > > > > Getting sick of “Halo 5 needs this to be added to be great, This is what Halo 6 needs not to suck”. It’s all just your opinion.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well yeah what else would it be ? Lol
> > >
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> > > I’m just saying, the title should be more along the lines of “What I want in Halo 6”
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> >
> > Why should I state something that’s clearly obvious, to appease someone’s delicate sensibilities ? I don’t think so.
> >
> > Also you understand that these are opinions that are shared by a lot of the commumity and also a lot of these were in previous installments ? And or were added late to Halo 5 ?
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> > Why not try adding something worthwhile to the discussion or is H5 the perfect game for you ?
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> Okay.
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> A more user friendly and polished UI - I have no problem with the UI, not something that’s needed
>
> Spartan charge nerf/radar buff - Not needed, both work fine
>
> More customization e.g. armour sets that can be broke down to chest, arms and leg pieces, undersuit colour selection, accessories (ammo pouches, holsters etc) - In my opinion, what Halo 6 needs is CE customization where everyone looks the same, because then gameplay would be a higher focus and cosmetics are pointless.
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> A classic playlist - Go play a classic game. 100% Not needed, take off your nostalgia goggles.
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> A more refined Req system that strikes a better balance between RNG items and rewarding players for achievements and commendations etc - The REQ system works fine. If my customization need is met, the RNG for cosmetics won’t exist anyway.
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> A better supported BTB - BTB seems fine to me. Not needed

Thanks

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> > 2533274921982810;1:
> > Posted this list on Reddit and it got some really good positive feedback, and I don’t think any of these are unreasonable. Wondered what the thoughts of this board are ? Take not 343…
> >
> > 1. WZFF, Infection, Griffball, Doubles and a true Social playlist at launch
> > 2. A more user friendly and polished UI
> > 3. Spartan charge nerf/radar buff
> > 4. More customization e.g. armour sets that can be broke down to chest, arms and leg pieces, undersuit colour selection, accessories (ammo pouches, holsters etc)
> > 5. A classic playlist
> > 6. A more refined Req system that strikes a better balance between RNG items and rewarding players for achievements and commendations etc
> > 7. A better supported BTB
> > 8. A proper file share system and showcase for forge creations
> > 9. Aiming. Get it sorted
> > 10. Splitscreen
> > 11. A tighter campaign story with less reliance on expanded material, with a bigger focus on the Master Chief
> > 12. Improved custom games and a theatre mode that actually works
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> What H6 needs is for these things to be added into H5 as its way tooo soon to be talking H6 and theres plenty more they can do to H5 that will continue growing the player base as is currently happening with 5. Most games sell a tonne at the beginning of the game and then after 3 or 4 months everyone sort of has enough. With H5 the post launch support is showing a different way to go about handling a game that grows the daily active player base. There isn’t any reason to be talking about Halo 6 at the moment.
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> The main Halo games release every 2-3 years. Halo 5 hasnt been out for anywhere near that yet so lets get talking about what they can change in Halo 5 before people are even really thinking on to Halo 6 as currently that game should be quite a long way away.

We’re coming up on nearly a year since release I believe it’s wishful thinking at this point to hope too much for some of these changes to be implemented to Halo 5, I hope I’m wrong but I doubt it.

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> > > Posted this list on Reddit and it got some really good positive feedback, and I don’t think any of these are unreasonable. Wondered what the thoughts of this board are ? Take not 343…
> > > 1. WZFF, Infection, Griffball, Doubles and a true Social playlist at launch
> > > 2. A more user friendly and polished UI
> > > 3. Spartan charge nerf/radar buff
> > > 4. More customization e.g. armour sets that can be broke down to chest, arms and leg pieces, undersuit colour selection, accessories (ammo pouches, holsters etc)
> > > 5. A classic playlist
> > > 6. A more refined Req system that strikes a better balance between RNG items and rewarding players for achievements and commendations etc
> > > 7. A better supported BTB
> > > 8. A proper file share system and showcase for forge creations
> > > 9. Aiming. Get it sorted
> > > 10. Splitscreen
> > > 11. A tighter campaign story with less reliance on expanded material, with a bigger focus on the Master Chief
> > > 12. Improved custom games and a theatre mode that actually works
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> > What H6 needs is for these things to be added into H5 as its way tooo soon to be talking H6 and theres plenty more they can do to H5 that will continue growing the player base as is currently happening with 5. Most games sell a tonne at the beginning of the game and then after 3 or 4 months everyone sort of has enough. With H5 the post launch support is showing a different way to go about handling a game that grows the daily active player base. There isn’t any reason to be talking about Halo 6 at the moment.
> > The main Halo games release every 2-3 years. Halo 5 hasnt been out for anywhere near that yet so lets get talking about what they can change in Halo 5 before people are even really thinking on to Halo 6 as currently that game should be quite a long way away.
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> We’re coming up on nearly a year since release I believe it’s wishful thinking at this point to hope too much for some of these changes to be implemented to Halo 5, I hope I’m wrong but I doubt it.

Like I said. Halo games release every 2 to 3 years on average. They have done that because they have received support for well over 1 year for each game. Other games like GTA, Destiny and Battlefield have also had post launch support which has lasted for over 1 year currently due to support funded by largely aesthetic based microstransactions. With Halo 5 being very successful with req packs and also growing in daily users still, you would be wise to look at longer than just 1 year for changes and additions considering the franchise history and also its growth and success with features that fit the current market trends of games being supported for longer than 1 year. I think people are somewhat fed up with the annual CoD’s and the market has definitely changed for the better.

It would be a big mistake and mark H5 as a failure for 343 to consider stopping support of H5 after just under 1 year. H5 isn’t a failure though so long may it continue into year 2 of the games release like its peers who have set the new standard.

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> > > > > While some of these are good ideas, these are not what Halo 6 needs. It’s what you want.
> > > > > Getting sick of “Halo 5 needs this to be added to be great, This is what Halo 6 needs not to suck”. It’s all just your opinion.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well yeah what else would it be ? Lol
> > >
> > >
> > > I’m just saying, the title should be more along the lines of “What I want in Halo 6”
> >
> >
> > Why should I state something that’s clearly obvious, to appease someone’s delicate sensibilities ? I don’t think so.
> >
> > Also you understand that these are opinions that are shared by a lot of the commumity and also a lot of these were in previous installments ? And or were added late to Halo 5 ?
> >
> > Why not try adding something worthwhile to the discussion or is H5 the perfect game for you ?
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> Okay.
>
> A more user friendly and polished UI - I have no problem with the UI, not something that’s needed
>
> Spartan charge nerf/radar buff - Not needed, both work fine
>
> More customization e.g. armour sets that can be broke down to chest, arms and leg pieces, undersuit colour selection, accessories (ammo pouches, holsters etc) - In my opinion, what Halo 6 needs is CE customization where everyone looks the same, because then gameplay would be a higher focus and cosmetics are pointless.
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> A classic playlist - Go play a classic game. 100% Not needed, take off your nostalgia goggles.
>
> A more refined Req system that strikes a better balance between RNG items and rewarding players for achievements and commendations etc - The REQ system works fine. If my customization need is met, the RNG for cosmetics won’t exist anyway.
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> A better supported BTB - BTB seems fine to me. Not needed.

343 fanboy here!

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> > 2533274921982810;1:
> > Posted this list on Reddit and it got some really good positive feedback, and I don’t think any of these are unreasonable. Wondered what the thoughts of this board are ? Take not 343…
> >
> > 1. WZFF, Infection, Griffball, Doubles and a true Social playlist at launch
> > 2. A more user friendly and polished UI
> > 3. Spartan charge nerf/radar buff
> > 4. More customization e.g. armour sets that can be broke down to chest, arms and leg pieces, undersuit colour selection, accessories (ammo pouches, holsters etc)
> > 5. A classic playlist
> > 6. A more refined Req system that strikes a better balance between RNG items and rewarding players for achievements and commendations etc
> > 7. A better supported BTB
> > 8. A proper file share system and showcase for forge creations
> > 9. Aiming. Get it sorted
> > 10. Splitscreen
> > 11. A tighter campaign story with less reliance on expanded material, with a bigger focus on the Master Chief
> > 12. Improved custom games and a theatre mode that actually works
>
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> What H6 needs is for these things to be added into H5 as its way tooo soon to be talking H6 and theres plenty more they can do to H5 that will continue growing the player base as is currently happening with 5. Most games sell a tonne at the beginning of the game and then after 3 or 4 months everyone sort of has enough. With H5 the post launch support is showing a different way to go about handling a game that grows the daily active player base. There isn’t any reason to be talking about Halo 6 at the moment.
>
> The main Halo games release every 2-3 years. Halo 5 hasnt been out for anywhere near that yet so lets get talking about what they can change in Halo 5 before people are even really thinking on to Halo 6 as currently that game should be quite a long way away.

Growing the player base? It was 15th on the most played list before the free week. During the free week it grew to 6th place. Now it’s back to 12th. ICYMI they added the most played list back on the xbox store in the new update.

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> > > > > While some of these are good ideas, these are not what Halo 6 needs. It’s what you want.
> > > > > Getting sick of “Halo 5 needs this to be added to be great, This is what Halo 6 needs not to suck”. It’s all just your opinion.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well yeah what else would it be ? Lol
> > >
> > >
> > > I’m just saying, the title should be more along the lines of “What I want in Halo 6”
> >
> >
> > Why should I state something that’s clearly obvious, to appease someone’s delicate sensibilities ? I don’t think so.
> >
> > Also you understand that these are opinions that are shared by a lot of the commumity and also a lot of these were in previous installments ? And or were added late to Halo 5 ?
> >
> > Why not try adding something worthwhile to the discussion or is H5 the perfect game for you ?
>
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> Okay.
>
> A more user friendly and polished UI - I have no problem with the UI, not something that’s needed
>
> Spartan charge nerf/radar buff - Not needed, both work fine
>
> More customization e.g. armour sets that can be broke down to chest, arms and leg pieces, undersuit colour selection, accessories (ammo pouches, holsters etc) - In my opinion, what Halo 6 needs is CE customization where everyone looks the same, because then gameplay would be a higher focus and cosmetics are pointless.
>
> A classic playlist - Go play a classic game. 100% Not needed, take off your nostalgia goggles.
>
> A more refined Req system that strikes a better balance between RNG items and rewarding players for achievements and commendations etc - The REQ system works fine. If my customization need is met, the RNG for cosmetics won’t exist anyway.
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> A better supported BTB - BTB seems fine to me. Not needed.

A more user friendly and polished UI - I have no problem with the UI, not something that’s needed
So you think having to scroll though your entire collections to get to your newest addition and most rare items is perfectly fine ? selling each req individually and not having a batch sell option or sell all is also fine with you as well ? not being able to view who the players you are going to play in the pre game lobby, their Spartan, service record, rank, not being able to mute individual players in the pre game lobby is also fine with you as well ?

Spartan charge nerf/radar buff - Not needed, both work fine
Spartan charge promotes and rewards bad play you shouldn’t be rewarded for blindly running around corners and into a group of opponents, the radar only adds to this issue even more as by the time you see the blip on radar its too late.

More customization e.g. armour sets that can be broke down to chest, arms and leg pieces, undersuit colour selection, accessories (ammo pouches, holsters etc) - In my opinion, what Halo 6 needs is CE customization where everyone looks the same, because then gameplay would be a higher focus and cosmetics are pointless.
Players like customization options, you’re in the minority here.

A classic playlist - Go play a classic game. 100% Not needed, take off your nostalgia goggles.
I actually like Halo 5, but a lot of players don’t like the new mechanics, why cant both be catered to so everyone can enjoy the game its got nothing to do with nostalgia if I wanted to satisfy my nostalgia I would play MCC which I do from time to time. You never know it could pull more players back to Halo

A more refined Req system that strikes a better balance between RNG items and rewarding players for achievements and commendations etc - The REQ system works fine. If my customization need is met, the RNG for cosmetics won’t exist anyway.
Rewarding players through achievements and commendations would give the game a greater replay value and promote longevity. Also players like to be rewarded and not all are fans of RNG reward systems again why cant we have the best of both worlds and cater to all.
A better supported BTB - BTB seems fine to me. Not needed
No developer made maps, forge maps that don’t really support or encourage vehicular combat (which is what BTB is all about)

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> > > 2533274921982810;1:
> > > Posted this list on Reddit and it got some really good positive feedback, and I don’t think any of these are unreasonable. Wondered what the thoughts of this board are ? Take not 343…
> > > 1. WZFF, Infection, Griffball, Doubles and a true Social playlist at launch
> > > 2. A more user friendly and polished UI
> > > 3. Spartan charge nerf/radar buff
> > > 4. More customization e.g. armour sets that can be broke down to chest, arms and leg pieces, undersuit colour selection, accessories (ammo pouches, holsters etc)
> > > 5. A classic playlist
> > > 6. A more refined Req system that strikes a better balance between RNG items and rewarding players for achievements and commendations etc
> > > 7. A better supported BTB
> > > 8. A proper file share system and showcase for forge creations
> > > 9. Aiming. Get it sorted
> > > 10. Splitscreen
> > > 11. A tighter campaign story with less reliance on expanded material, with a bigger focus on the Master Chief
> > > 12. Improved custom games and a theatre mode that actually works
> >
> >
> > What H6 needs is for these things to be added into H5 as its way tooo soon to be talking H6 and theres plenty more they can do to H5 that will continue growing the player base as is currently happening with 5. Most games sell a tonne at the beginning of the game and then after 3 or 4 months everyone sort of has enough. With H5 the post launch support is showing a different way to go about handling a game that grows the daily active player base. There isn’t any reason to be talking about Halo 6 at the moment.
> > The main Halo games release every 2-3 years. Halo 5 hasnt been out for anywhere near that yet so lets get talking about what they can change in Halo 5 before people are even really thinking on to Halo 6 as currently that game should be quite a long way away.
>
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> Growing the player base? It was 15th on the most played list before the free week. During the free week it grew to 6th place. Now it’s back to 12th. ICYMI they added the most played list back on the xbox store in the new update.

The figures came out that they have more daily active users now than they have had before. Even top 20 most played is going to be considered successful and played by a significant amount of players. SMITE is down at 21 if that list is really anything to go by but that game has weekly updates and is really successful.