It seems 343 refuses to make even a successor to Firefight (Warzone doesn’t count as its PVP+E), despite that fact that with these Spartan abilities and the power of the Xbox One Firefight could be even more epic. 8+ players fighting against hordes of Covenant and/ or Prometheans in bigger maps, requiring team work to defeat them. This would be EPIC. 343, some of us just don’t like competitive gameplay, prefer co-operative.
Thats what im saying! I need it explained to me how putting firefight in the game would cause anyone any harm. People who dont like it guess what, YOU DONT HAVE TO PLAY IT. It’s unfair that im forced to play pvp in order to play this game outside of a miserable campaign. I do not enjoy being dominated by other players I wana shoot baddies and relax and unlock armor along the way. There is no harm in adding it. 343 is tone deaf on this issue. <<<<<<<------my opinion you can disagree if you want thats fine.
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> Thats what im saying! I need it explained to me how putting firefight in the game would cause anyone any harm. People who dont like it guess what, YOU DONT HAVE TO PLAY IT. It’s unfair that im forced to play pvp in order to play this game outside of a miserable campaign. I do not enjoy being dominated by other players I wana shoot baddies and relax and unlock armor along the way. There is no harm in adding it. 343 is tone deaf on this issue. <<<<<<<------my opinion you can disagree if you want thats fine.
People say its because “Firefight is Bungie’s game mode and this is 343’s Halo” what sort of sense is that? They could easily just call it something else.
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> Thats what im saying! I need it explained to me how putting firefight in the game would cause anyone any harm. People who dont like it guess what, YOU DONT HAVE TO PLAY IT. It’s unfair that im forced to play pvp in order to play this game outside of a miserable campaign. I do not enjoy being dominated by other players I wana shoot baddies and relax and unlock armor along the way. There is no harm in adding it. 343 is tone deaf on this issue. <<<<<<<------my opinion you can disagree if you want thats fine.
I totally agree
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> It seems 343 refuses to make even a successor to Firefight (Warzone doesn’t count as its PVP+E), despite that fact that with these Spartan abilities and the power of the Xbox One Firefight could be even more epic. 8+ players fighting against hordes of Covenant and/ or Prometheans in bigger maps, requiring team work to defeat them. This would be EPIC. 343, some of us just don’t like competitive gameplay, prefer co-operative.
Firefight should have been in the game from the beginning. To be quite honest, warzone isn’t much fun to me. And like you said it isn’t PvE.
343i focused too much on the competitive community rather than casual gamers. PvP is fun yes but so is just classic PvE. I don’t wanna have to keep replaying the campaign.
I keep finding myself going back to halo reach just for a good PvE experience.
The pro gamers will have fewer sheep (casual gamers) to hunt if PVE mode were in HALO 5.
343 made HALO 5 for pro gamers, not casual ones.
For sure just call firefight something else, call it bang bang shooter guns for all I care. And once Reach is BWC im headin back to that until 343 throws me a bone. Wont br buying H6 without some kind of firefight pve.
They are definitely good at taking out any replayability. No campaign scoring, no pve mode, no split screen, = this game collecting dust already.
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> Firefight should have been in the game from the beginning. To be quite honest, warzone isn’t much fun to me. And like you said it isn’t PvE.
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> 343i focused too much on the competitive community rather than casual gamers. PvP is fun yes but so is just classic PvE. I don’t wanna have to keep replaying the campaign.
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> I keep finding myself going back to halo reach just for a good PvE experience.
Why do people keep repeating that?
The existence of a PvP mode like Warzone and the lack of a PvE mode like Firefight have absolutely nothing to do with the competitive community. Tell me honestly, do you think Warzone is competitive? It’s clearly not.
The only issue is still and only 343i taking inconsistent and odd decisions when it comes to game development.
Otherwise, I fully agree with your post, Firefight was a must and it should definitely have returned.
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> > Firefight should have been in the game from the beginning. To be quite honest, warzone isn’t much fun to me. And like you said it isn’t PvE.
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> > 343i focused too much on the competitive community rather than casual gamers. PvP is fun yes but so is just classic PvE. I don’t wanna have to keep replaying the campaign.
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> > I keep finding myself going back to halo reach just for a good PvE experience.
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> Why do people keep repeating that?
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> The existence of a PvP mode like Warzone and the lack of a PvE mode like Firefight have absolutely nothing to do with the competitive community. Tell me honestly, do you think Warzone is competitive? It’s clearly not.
> The only issue is still and only 343i taking inconsistent and odd decisions when it comes to game development.
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> Otherwise, I fully agree with your post, Firefight was a must and it should definitely have returned.
People keep repeating that because it’s true.
Note that when i say “competitive” i simply mean those who enjoy PVP modes, not Pro Gamers.
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> > Firefight should have been in the game from the beginning. To be quite honest, warzone isn’t much fun to me. And like you said it isn’t PvE.
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> > 343i focused too much on the competitive community rather than casual gamers. PvP is fun yes but so is just classic PvE. I don’t wanna have to keep replaying the campaign.
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> > I keep finding myself going back to halo reach just for a good PvE experience.
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> Why do people keep repeating that?
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> The existence of a PvP mode like Warzone and the lack of a PvE mode like Firefight have absolutely nothing to do with the competitive community. Tell me honestly, do you think Warzone is competitive? It’s clearly not.
> The only issue is still and only 343i taking inconsistent and odd decisions when it comes to game development.
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> Otherwise, I fully agree with your post, Firefight was a must and it should definitely have returned.
Maybe I didn’t phrase it right. Things sound better in my head than they do in writing I guess. You’re right. Warzone isn’t competitive. I was talking about arena and how they focus too much on PvP.
I was just trying to express how warzone isn’t a good replacement for firefight.
Let’s face it though… Firefight is… boring. It’s an alright distraction, but it’s never been particularly compelling in any game, let alone Halo. But there’s a lot of opportunity to do something similar but better in the current generation. Something larger in scale to incorporate vehicular fun, which is something that’s vastly better with real players and is severely lacking in the small-scale arena Firefights.
Destiny’s Prison of Elders is a decent enough expansion on Firefight, and something similar is a logical evolutionary path for Halo’s Firefight to follow if the mode stays purely arena in nature. But I think that would be a mistake. Something that combines Warzone, Spartan Ops, and Firefight would be nice. The scale and openness of Warzone, along with the start and random objectives, with the scripting and story elements of Spartan Ops, and then wave-based enemy deployments like Firefight.
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> They are definitely good at taking out any replayability. No campaign scoring, no pve mode, no split screen, = this game collecting dust already.
I didn’t know H5 didn’t have campaign scoring. That sucks. It would have been a lot of fun playing with friends with a scoring system. And if it had leader boards, even more of a reason to keep playing toners and beat your friends score.
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> Let’s face it though… Firefight is… boring. It’s an alright distraction, but it’s never been particularly compelling in any game, let alone Halo. But there’s a lot of opportunity to do something similar but better in the current generation. Something larger in scale to incorporate vehicular fun, which is something that’s vastly better with real players and is severely lacking in the small-scale arena Firefights.
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> Destiny’s Prison of Elders is a decent enough expansion on Firefight, and something similar is a logical evolutionary path for Halo’s Firefight to follow if the mode stays purely arena in nature. But I think that would be a mistake. Something that combines Warzone, Spartan Ops, and Firefight would be nice. The scale and openness of Warzone, along with the start and random objectives, with the scripting and story elements of Spartan Ops, and then wave-based enemy deployments like Firefight.
May have been boring to you. But it kept many MANY people busy.
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> I was just trying to express how warzone isn’t a good replacement for firefight.
And I approve that.
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> > They are definitely good at taking out any replayability. No campaign scoring, no pve mode, no split screen, = this game collecting dust already.
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> I didn’t know H5 didn’t have campaign scoring. That sucks. It would have been a lot of fun playing with friends with a scoring system. And if it had leader boards, even more of a reason to keep playing toners and beat your friends score.
This company keeps dissapointing me every day… At least they did great things with the general lore of Halo…
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> > Thats what im saying! I need it explained to me how putting firefight in the game would cause anyone any harm. People who dont like it guess what, YOU DONT HAVE TO PLAY IT. It’s unfair that im forced to play pvp in order to play this game outside of a miserable campaign. I do not enjoy being dominated by other players I wana shoot baddies and relax and unlock armor along the way. There is no harm in adding it. 343 is tone deaf on this issue. <<<<<<<------my opinion you can disagree if you want thats fine.
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> People say its because “Firefight is Bungie’s game mode and this is 343’s Halo” what sort of sense is that? They could easily just call it something else.
Who exactly says that? I havent been on forums since Halo 5, and it seems all the older forum members left to play h5, so who said this? and please dont say “A lot of people”
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> The pro gamers will have fewer sheep (casual gamers) to hunt if PVE mode were in HALO 5.
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> 343 made HALO 5 for pro gamers, not casual ones.
Again, what the hell do you think Warzone is?
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> They are definitely good at taking out any replayability. No campaign scoring, no pve mode, no split screen, = this game collecting dust already.
I still keep playing campaign, i still need to go thru it again on legendary, and need to find intel and skulls
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> > The pro gamers will have fewer sheep (casual gamers) to hunt if PVE mode were in HALO 5.
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> > 343 made HALO 5 for pro gamers, not casual ones.
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> Again, what the hell do you think Warzone is?
WZ is not enough. Where is Multiteam, Griffball, Infection, FFA casual ?