What does Halo 5: Guardians have to offer?

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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(Listed in order from strongest to weakest)

  • A balanced, competitive arena MP mode. We’ll have to wait and see whether it’ll live up to the heydays of Halo 3 as quite a few people are still alienated by ADS and the base movement. - 1080p, 60 fps. Apparently a central selling point for a number of people, so much for “graphics don’t make a game”. Also a common justification for exclusion of other features. - Revamped gameplay. Also something that either alienated or attracted fans. - Warzone, a more casual and chaotic sandbox/objective centered game mode. Slated to replace the PvE modes Firefight and Spartan Ops and possibly BTB. Way over hyped and possibly includes pay-to-win style micro transactions. Another common justification for the exclusion of other features. - Some fan-favorite characters in the campaign. And going off of RUL’s description of the second campaign mission and not the E3 demo, a sizable and more interactive campaign.Is that enough to justify all the features removed (see the enormous amount of circulating threads titled “No _____ in H5??”)? Well, that’s subjective. Personally, I’m swaying towards the “alienated fans” camp as it seems Halo, over all, is cutting down on content and a number of the excluded features were central aspects of Halo that I enjoyed.

More importantly, some of you need to abandon this “quite whining” philosophy. We are the consumers, our money will make or break 343i, it is not absurd for fans to voice their displeasure with one of their favorite IP’s. We’re not family members and friends of 343i, we’re consumers. We’re part of an economy, participants in the gaming industry. That other fans may love the Halo IP for different reasons than you, does not make them lesser fans. Even if their willing not to buy the next Halo game. We as fans have no obligation to hand our money to 343i when we’re displeased with them. We as consumers have the right to practice dollar diplomacy and hand out checks selectively to further our goals.

I believe that H5 is too far into development for them to implement any of the vast array of features that they excluded. Thus, in the interest of obtaining the Halo I want, it is in my best interest that Halo 5: Guardians fail tremendously. You do you.

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I guess I’ll find out once I play it.

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> I guess I’ll find out once I play it.

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I think no matter how hard anyone tries, no one is going to abandon the way they like to argue.

…Some people enjoy looking down on people and saying quit whining

…Some people enjoy kicking and screaming despite being shunned and ignored

…Some people even like personally attacking others

A lot of people in any community are like this and there will alyways be destruction where there is construction so we shouldn’t be teling people to abandon their ways, we should try to sway them into knowing that they are being disruptive.

There is still hope with the pleasant few who enjoy civilized and professional arguments and discussions about the future of their beloved franchise

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Add inclusion of EU onto that list.

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I’m excited about it.

The only thing I dislike is the lack of split screen, since sometimes I like to force my wife to play Halo with me (she’s probably really excited about the lack of split screen).

And sure, some things are being either cut or replaced (I see Warzone as a replacement for Firefight), but it’s not that big of a deal. My favorite Halo is CE, and it was incredibly limited by comparison.

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> I think no matter how hard anyone tries, no one is going to abandon the way they like to argue.
>
> …Some people enjoy looking down on people and saying quit whining
>
> …Some people enjoy kicking and screaming despite being shunned and ignored
>
> …Some people even like personally attacking others
>
> A lot of people in any community are like this and there will alyways be destruction where there is construction so we shouldn’t be teling people to abandon their ways, we should try to sway them into knowing that they are being disruptive.
>
> There is still hope with the pleasant few who enjoy civilized and professional arguments and discussions about the future of their beloved franchise

Thank you for reminding us of the inevitability of conflict and cultural degeneration. However, I believe that is a moot point. You might as well say any action that we may or may not take is inconsequential.

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I’m excited to play a different halo since I know what to expect this time unlike Halo 4. I’m super stoked for Warzone and its not pay to win. You don’t have to spend real money to win. ADS is in every game now surprised they didn’t have that in Halo 4. I have been playing halo most of my life and I am super stoked for this game. Haven’t been this stoked since Halo 2 came out.

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> (Listed in order from strongest to weakest)
>
> - A balanced, competitive arena MP mode. We’ll have to wait and see whether it’ll live up to the heydays of Halo 3 as quite a few people are still alienated by ADS and the base movement.
> - 1080p, 60 fps. Apparently a central selling point for a number of people, so much for “graphics don’t make a game”. Also a common justification for exclusion of other features.
> - Revamped gameplay. Also something that either alienated or attracted fans.
> - Warzone, a more casual and chaotic sandbox/objective centered game mode. Slated to replace the PvE modes Firefight and Spartan Ops and possibly BTB. Way over hyped and possibly includes pay-to-win style micro transactions. Another common justification for the exclusion of other features.
> - Some fan-favorite characters in the campaign. And going off of RUL’s description of the second campaign mission and not the E3 demo, a sizable and more interactive campaign.

–Well seeing as how the sandbox is shaping up to be more balanced than Halo 3…

–60FPS makes for smoother, more precise and therefore more competitive gameplay

–“revamped gamplay” isn’t descriptive enough. What is “revamped”?

–BTB is not being replaced, it is going to return in a few weeks after launch. It also isn’t pay to win.

–A larger campaign is good.

No mention of the free DLC?

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> I believe that H5 is too far into development for them to implement any of the vast array of features that they excluded. Thus, in the interest of obtaining the Halo I want, it is in my best interest that Halo 5: Guardians fail tremendously. You do you.

This is one of the most selfish things I’v read in awhile. I understand if you don’t like the game, but that’s no excuse for wanting it fail. Just don’t play it then.

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> > 2533274867600436;4:
> > I think no matter how hard anyone tries, no one is going to abandon the way they like to argue.
> >
> > …Some people enjoy looking down on people and saying quit whining
> >
> > …Some people enjoy kicking and screaming despite being shunned and ignored
> >
> > …Some people even like personally attacking others
> >
> > A lot of people in any community are like this and there will alyways be destruction where there is construction so we shouldn’t be teling people to abandon their ways, we should try to sway them into knowing that they are being disruptive.
> >
> > There is still hope with the pleasant few who enjoy civilized and professional arguments and discussions about the future of their beloved franchise
>
>
> Thank you for reminding us of the inevitability of conflict and cultural degeneration. However, I believe that is a moot point. You might as well say any action that we may or may not take is inconsequential.

I said there is hope in my last post and there is. I only meant that you cannot simply go to a person and say, “Dude stop doing that.”

Cultural degeneration is a thing, yea I agree.

But instead you have to be minding your own business and if they come across you, you say, “Wait, back up, you’re doing it all wrong you see. It’s like this because this is better than that, do you understand?”

Then they’re like, “Yeah I guess you’re right,” makes a shameful face as he feels he’s wronged many people

And that’s how we repair the community… so let’s get crackin on these threads about Requisition packs everybody

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I’m pumped for Warzone personally. I would like the REQ to be cosmetic only (and I would buy them all to support).

Probably a stupid question… but I’ve only heard arena and warzone announced… but have they confirmed we’ll have good ol’ BTB (with no cards affecting gameplay)? Is that implied to be part of ‘arena’?

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> 2533274867600436;10:
> > 2533274932527408;7:
> > > 2533274867600436;4:
> > > I think no matter how hard anyone tries, no one is going to abandon the way they like to argue.
> > >
> > > …Some people enjoy looking down on people and saying quit whining
> > >
> > > …Some people enjoy kicking and screaming despite being shunned and ignored
> > >
> > > …Some people even like personally attacking others
> > >
> > > A lot of people in any community are like this and there will alyways be destruction where there is construction so we shouldn’t be teling people to abandon their ways, we should try to sway them into knowing that they are being disruptive.
> > >
> > > There is still hope with the pleasant few who enjoy civilized and professional arguments and discussions about the future of their beloved franchise
> >
> >
> > Thank you for reminding us of the inevitability of conflict and cultural degeneration. However, I believe that is a moot point. You might as well say any action that we may or may not take is inconsequential.
>
>
> I said there is hope in my last post and there is. I only meant that you cannot simply go to a person and say, “Dude stop doing that.”
>
> Cultural degeneration is a thing, yea I agree.
>
> But instead you have to be minding your own business and if they come across you, you say, “Wait, back up, you’re doing it all wrong you see. It’s like this because this is better than that, do you understand?”
>
> Then they’re like, “Yeah I guess you’re right,” makes a shameful face as he feels he’s wronged many people
>
> And that’s how we repair the community… so let’s get crackin on these threads about Requisition packs everybody

Fair enough, though I’m not one to dedicating my heart and soul to a community.

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> I’m excited about it.
>
> The only thing I dislike is the lack of split screen, since sometimes I like to force my wife to play Halo with me (she’s probably really excited about the lack of split screen).
>
> And sure, some things are being either cut or replaced (I see Warzone as a replacement for Firefight), but it’s not that big of a deal. My favorite Halo is CE, and it was incredibly limited by comparison.

Agreed, regarding Halo CE. However, the movement,even paced gameplay and, sandbox elements where what made me fall in love with CE. And that’s something I don’t think any of the other games were able to recapture. But that’s simply a matter of taste.

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> > 2533274932527408;1:
> > (Listed in order from strongest to weakest)
> >
> > - A balanced, competitive arena MP mode. We’ll have to wait and see whether it’ll live up to the heydays of Halo 3 as quite a few people are still alienated by ADS and the base movement.
> > - 1080p, 60 fps. Apparently a central selling point for a number of people, so much for “graphics don’t make a game”. Also a common justification for exclusion of other features.
> > - Revamped gameplay. Also something that either alienated or attracted fans.
> > - Warzone, a more casual and chaotic sandbox/objective centered game mode. Slated to replace the PvE modes Firefight and Spartan Ops and possibly BTB. Way over hyped and possibly includes pay-to-win style micro transactions. Another common justification for the exclusion of other features.
> > - Some fan-favorite characters in the campaign. And going off of RUL’s description of the second campaign mission and not the E3 demo, a sizable and more interactive campaign.
>
>
> --Well seeing as how the sandbox is shaping up to be more balanced than Halo 3…
>
> --60FPS makes for smoother, more precise and therefore more competitive gameplay
>
> --“revamped gamplay” isn’t descriptive enough. What is “revamped”?
>
> --BTB is not being replaced, it is going to return in a few weeks after launch. It also isn’t pay to win.
>
> --A larger campaign is good.
>
> No mention of the free DLC?
>
>
>
>
> > 2533274932527408;1:
> > I believe that H5 is too far into development for them to implement any of the vast array of features that they excluded. Thus, in the interest of obtaining the Halo I want, it is in my best interest that Halo 5: Guardians fail tremendously. You do you.
>
>
> This is one of the most selfish things I’v read in awhile. I understand if you don’t like the game, but that’s no excuse for wanting it fail. Just don’t play it then.

I sought to list the main selling points for most people. I’m a big fan of free DLC, but if the game isn’t appealing, free DLC isn’t worth squat.

As for that last bit, that is precisely what I intend to do and I don’t give a damn whether you approve of my wish. It is my wish after all… You do you.

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The only thing that really bothers me about Halo now is that 343 website team took out ‘Halo Waypoint Career’.

I know most don’t care, but as a long time Halo fan that did care about getting all the vid master challenges (back in the day), gear unlocks, Halo 4 code things (don’t remember name), achievements (seeing the X out of X, and per game achievement breakdown, not a random gamerscore that has no details on what you have / are missing), total kills, total deaths, MM stats, etc all from that main ‘career page’. It was just some cool overall Halo stats. I loved seeing every campaign / MM kill ‘add to my totals’ (ironically never did care much for K/D type stats, just the additive time based ones).

I genuinely miss that. I haven’t even bothered to go for the achievements in MCC and it was always one of my ‘cool factor things’ to push for back in the day. I’m not sure if the web team is just revamping it… but it has been awhile (what a weird omission if you think about it).

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> The only thing that really bothers me about Halo now is that 343 website team took out ‘Halo Waypoint Career’.
>
> I know most don’t care, but as a long time Halo fan that did care about getting all the vid master challenges (back in the day), gear unlocks, Halo 4 code things (don’t remember name), achievements (seeing the X out of X, and per game achievement breakdown, not a random gamerscore that has no details on what you have / are missing), total kills, total deaths, MM stats, etc all from that main ‘career page’. It was just some cool overall Halo stats. I loved seeing every campaign / MM kill ‘add to my totals’ (ironically never did care much for K/D type stats, just the additive time based ones).
>
> I genuinely miss that. I haven’t even bothered to go for the achievements in MCC and it was always one of my ‘cool factor things’ to push for back in the day. I’m not sure if the web team is just revamping it… but it has been awhile (what a weird omission if you think about it).

I enjoyed that too, gave a level of depth to the Halo experience. However, at this point, we’re scrambling to get basic features back in the game. Forget File Share, Campaign Theater, and all those other neat things.

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> I’m pumped for Warzone personally. I would like the REQ to be cosmetic only (and I would buy them all to support).
>
> Probably a stupid question… but I’ve only heard arena and warzone announced… but have they confirmed we’ll have good ol’ BTB (with no cards affecting gameplay)? Is that implied to be part of ‘arena’?

I believe BTB is one of the playlists, however, there seems to be a low emphasis on it, so I doubt if it’ll be any good.

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> > 2533274867600436;10:
> > > 2533274932527408;7:
> > > > 2533274867600436;4:
> > > > I think no matter how hard anyone tries, no one is going to abandon the way they like to argue.
> > > >
> > > > …Some people enjoy looking down on people and saying quit whining
> > > >
> > > > …Some people enjoy kicking and screaming despite being shunned and ignored
> > > >
> > > > …Some people even like personally attacking others
> > > >
> > > > A lot of people in any community are like this and there will alyways be destruction where there is construction so we shouldn’t be teling people to abandon their ways, we should try to sway them into knowing that they are being disruptive.
> > > >
> > > > There is still hope with the pleasant few who enjoy civilized and professional arguments and discussions about the future of their beloved franchise
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you for reminding us of the inevitability of conflict and cultural degeneration. However, I believe that is a moot point. You might as well say any action that we may or may not take is inconsequential.
> >
> >
> > I said there is hope in my last post and there is. I only meant that you cannot simply go to a person and say, “Dude stop doing that.”
> >
> > Cultural degeneration is a thing, yea I agree.
> >
> > But instead you have to be minding your own business and if they come across you, you say, “Wait, back up, you’re doing it all wrong you see. It’s like this because this is better than that, do you understand?”
> >
> > Then they’re like, “Yeah I guess you’re right,” makes a shameful face as he feels he’s wronged many people
> >
> > And that’s how we repair the community… so let’s get crackin on these threads about Requisition packs everybody
>
>
> Fair enough, though I’m not one to dedicating my heart and soul to a community.
>
>
> > 2533274883669557;6:
> > I’m excited about it.
> >
> > The only thing I dislike is the lack of split screen, since sometimes I like to force my wife to play Halo with me (she’s probably really excited about the lack of split screen).
> >
> > And sure, some things are being either cut or replaced (I see Warzone as a replacement for Firefight), but it’s not that big of a deal. My favorite Halo is CE, and it was incredibly limited by comparison.
>
>
> Agreed, regarding Halo CE. However, the movement,even paced gameplay and, sandbox elements where what made me fall in love with CE. And that’s something I don’t think any of the other games were able to recapture. But that’s simply a matter of taste.
>
>
> > 2533274798011936;9:
> > > 2533274932527408;1:
> > > (Listed in order from strongest to weakest)
> > >
> > > - A balanced, competitive arena MP mode. We’ll have to wait and see whether it’ll live up to the heydays of Halo 3 as quite a few people are still alienated by ADS and the base movement.
> > > - 1080p, 60 fps. Apparently a central selling point for a number of people, so much for “graphics don’t make a game”. Also a common justification for exclusion of other features.
> > > - Revamped gameplay. Also something that either alienated or attracted fans.
> > > - Warzone, a more casual and chaotic sandbox/objective centered game mode. Slated to replace the PvE modes Firefight and Spartan Ops and possibly BTB. Way over hyped and possibly includes pay-to-win style micro transactions. Another common justification for the exclusion of other features.
> > > - Some fan-favorite characters in the campaign. And going off of RUL’s description of the second campaign mission and not the E3 demo, a sizable and more interactive campaign.
> >
> >
> > --Well seeing as how the sandbox is shaping up to be more balanced than Halo 3…
> >
> > --60FPS makes for smoother, more precise and therefore more competitive gameplay
> >
> > --“revamped gamplay” isn’t descriptive enough. What is “revamped”?
> >
> > --BTB is not being replaced, it is going to return in a few weeks after launch. It also isn’t pay to win.
> >
> > --A larger campaign is good.
> >
> > No mention of the free DLC?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 2533274932527408;1:
> > > I believe that H5 is too far into development for them to implement any of the vast array of features that they excluded. Thus, in the interest of obtaining the Halo I want, it is in my best interest that Halo 5: Guardians fail tremendously. You do you.
> >
> >
> > This is one of the most selfish things I’v read in awhile. I understand if you don’t like the game, but that’s no excuse for wanting it fail. Just don’t play it then.
>
>
> I sought to list the main selling points for most people. I’m a big fan of free DLC, but if the game isn’t appealing, free DLC isn’t worth squat.
>
> As for that last bit, that is precisely what I intend to do and I don’t give a damn whether you approve of my wish. It is my wish after all… You do you.

I agree 100% with the free DLC. I have bought every Halo DLC and always will… but not getting to play the old maps killed me.

I can’t wait to actually get to play the DLC maps in the regular playlists. Very smart move by 343.

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> Add inclusion of EU onto that list.

EU?