What do you think made the population drop?

First drop was within the ‘beta’ launch week, and fell off about 30-40%, which was expected, happens to nearly all titles.

There was some gradual weekly degradation as a result of the poor performance/limited content/general discontent that had populations down to about 120k-150k by the week of official launch.

The playlist changes hit a week after, bringing BTB issues en masse, halving the population to about 60k-80k.

And since then given the holidays and thus the lack of fixes/content/configured discontent players degradation has caused what we see now.

Interestingly enough, there were boons consisting of several thousand players during each of the special events that occurred (Winter Contingency and Tenrai)

All of this purely dependent on Steam stats only which don’t tell a full story either.

The game’s in a really tight rough spot, but hardly dead.

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The name doesn’t fit, he doesn’t get the comedy in a post of mine. Writes me some PM about “do not make non-constructive posts”.

Like really. Is this a day care for :snowflake:’s or a forum to discuss your former favorite franchise? I can’t even tell if I am being bamboozled or memed.

98% of posts here are non-constructive and that has to do something with the game, the devs and communication.

And the whole “he said bad word, time to flag” and “3 bad words in 217 posts? Time to close this topic for 4 hours” leaves a real fishy and rancid taste in my mouth.

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LMAOO. its 2022. mass formation psychosis is in full swing.

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  • Lack of playlists
  • Lack of customization
  • Lack of co op
  • Lack of forge
  • Frustrations with game crashes
  • Frustrations with input filters not truly existing
  • Frustrations with MM servers getting insane high ping
  • Lack of static commendations for player investment
  • Lack of maps
  • Ranking system skewed heavily by many factors resulting in frustrating experiences by many players with too many to detail
  • Lack of a ease of use in game report tool for cheaters
  • Anti cheat seems to be under heavy scrutiny
  • High paid for items that players don’t believe make sense
  • change in the halo formula will always cause some some eventually leave.
  • Lack of better differentiating between ranked , social, and a hardcore mode should exist…right now it’s basically ranked as social, hardcore as ranked…and not a true social mode. Look at halo 3 for a good example
  • player feels completely useless as they write a big ol thing up like i just did…absolutely knowing 343 isn’t going to read this so wth am I even writing this for?

Theres probably more than what I’ve written, but there’s a lot of reasons.

Reasons to stay?

  • you love halo, it’s your main fps game, and your friends play it. The bread and butter core mechanics are in tact, and feel extremely fun and satisfying to play when you’re in matches that make sense, aren’t cross region, don’t have cheaters in them and are playing a good healthy match in your preferred playlist with friends…or alone if you hate other humans and just won’t ever bother to actually make a single friend during your entire halo experience.
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I would say what really turns me off from this game can be generalized to two points: technical issues and a lack of content.

We have the server issues that make shot registration/ melee/ etc extremely inconsistent. Custom Games is more or less broken. Every few games I play it forgets my gametype settings and I have to reset them. LAN is broken if you want to play against bots- your shots do not register. Also when playing on LAN you can’t see the game type settings you change. If you change say the starting weapon it’ll take effect but in the UI nothing changed. I get really tired of putting up with these things.

Stack that on top of the few maps and modes that we have to play and a lack of forge. There just isn’t anything here to keep me going or interested in the game. I was getting bored with this game as early as the second flight. The official release basically just added a few extra maps. I haven’t played Infinite in a few weeks.

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Missing Stuff

  • -No Forge

  • -No Matchmaking Composer

  • -No Custom Game Browser

  • -No CoOp Campaign

  • -No Server Selection

  • -No in-game report function

  • -No option to save theatre files

  • -No Crossplay disable Button

  • -No Progression System

  • -No commendations

  • -No gameplay based unlocks

  • -No Career Stats

  • -No Neutral Equipment

  • -No pre/post Game Lobby

  • -Missing Gamemodes: Firefight, Infection, Invasion, Assault, One Bomb, Territorries, King of the Hill, Vip, Shotty Snipers, Grifball, Race, Neutral Assault, Action Sack, Roaming King, Team Doubles

  • -The lack of a new “WOW” Gamemode. I really thought 343 would bring something new to the table. A new gamemode with way more players to spice things up a little. A gamemode like Operations from Battlefield 1 would’ve worked so well in Halo Infinite.

Broken stuff

  • -Broken Custom Games
  • -Broken Theatre
  • -Broken UI (yes, at this point I call it broken, because Halo 5 had the same issue - it takes ages to load everything and I’m on a freaking Series X)
  • -Broken Quick Resume
  • -Server / Desync Issues
  • -Broken BTB (It’s been a month now…)

Poorly executed stuff

  • -Maps: Unlike many other people, I don’t think that the amount of maps is the main issue. The main issue is that very few of them bring something new to the table. No dynamique map elements, no crazy stuff like elephants, mammoths & scarabs in Multiplayer.

  • -The UI (I don’t wanna be mean, but this is one of the worst UI’s I’ve ever seen.) This looks like early developement at best.

  • -Battlepass. A Battlepass is a subscription fee for one single game. A seasonal Battlepass has to offer way more value to keep me subscribed. I couldn’t care less about challenge swaps & XP Boosts, this stuff has to be removed and replaced with real items.

  • -PC Optimization: I’m a console Player, however, my friends are playing on PC and literally everyone has multiple crashes on every session.

  • -Vehicle combat: Lack of physics. Lack of unique utilitys like the chopper beeing able to ram & destroy other vehicles.

  • -Player collision: Just feels awful. I was open for the approach, but it simply doesn’t work.

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When you get multiple no scope headshots, go on a running riot, and comeback from down 15 to win a slayer with a teammate missing, and the game ends and you get only +100 xp for “playing a ranked match” it’s just insulting.

Like, I don’t need a degree in comp sci, mathematics, project and business administration or whatever snobby degree and years of experience you think qualifies a fan to make this remark, but that’s BOLLOCKS, 343. I want to be rewarded. left. and. right. Do you copy?

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You say “It’s peak was this” but then don’t compare it to its peak now? Are you purposely trying to be misleading?

I know a lot of people are ragging on lack of content and other things, reasonably so, but no one seems to be pointing out that it’s also a F2P game on PC.

I don’t think Halo has been a staple for PC players… as I can’t recall Halo 2-5 and everything in between being on PC, but I could be wrong here.
But I do know that the majority of long time fans are on Xbox. Not steam, so player drops should be expected in that regard.
This is before I remind you that it’s F2P so of course anyone can dip their toes in, say they don’t like it, and bail, they don’t need to get their moneys worth, they paid no money.

So, you have a very large influx of relatively new or just straight up new Players, and they come in to… this… even just compared to other F2P titles… it’s bare, so there’s pretty much bound to be a big drop.

just another pair of contributing factors to the already… vast list of reasons.

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Lack of updates.
Lack of acknowledgement about the various problems from 343 via the Steam community page and Waypoint’s news section.

I literally don’t know whether they’re working on fixes or still on vacation.

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This is a broken game that they try to distract with events to have you miss the gaping holes in the walls of this project. How do they have a glitch in the campaign and a glitch in big team battle. THERE ARE OFFICIAL XBOX ACHIEVEMENTS that we cannot complete literally because of errors in their game. How does that happen?!

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No new content. Maps are so effing stale playing the same thing over and over and over again. Then you have all the stability issues. It has a decent core but it needs a lot of polish.

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Lack of meaningful progression and free avenues to earn a majority of the items in the game. So many elements of the game, from the challenge system, to the battle pass, to the store, to the limited customization options, etc. are clearly designed to push players into buying items in the store when they shouldn’t have to. Nothing, aside from HCS cosmetics and Announcers should be exclusively earnable by paying real money. Free players see that they can’t earn any of the cooler stuff they want, combined with the limited number of modes currently, and they leave.

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A lot of people play the gamepass version on pc now because of campaign. If you look at the spike there was a shift right at campaign launch. I haven’t played the steam version since campaign came out myself

For me, finished the Battle Pass and had no reason to play besides events. Since I can finish a weekly in only a few hours, I have no reason to play the rest of the week, or any week that I don’t want the weekly reward, because XP does nothing without a main progression system. Also, you get sick and tired of the same few maps and modes around 500 matches. Game needs Forge ASAP.

I started playing Destiny 2 again the other day after not playing for years, and I don’t regret it. I forgot how damn good Destiny 2 is now compared to Infinite. Infinite needs to adopt their Shader system into Coatings

Because it’s an FPS that got released in the year of our lord 2021. Virtually every FPS that gets released follows this trend.

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Try Flatulate lol it may work

Altvolt mentioned it’s too much like fortnite. Big difference , both fortnite & cod warzone u can find & get freebies easily. Halo u have grindz endlessly to reach lev 100 plus if u want just a piece ofthe samurai armor, ya have win all the challenges which some r hard to earn. Really hard & takes way too long for young people who r used to getting free stuff for doing nothing in like fortnite which spoiled them, imo. Took me 7 weeks to get to lev 90 & finally earn the samurai armor for free without buying them.

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F2P games in general have high drop off and turnover rates, but there are some rarities. Also, I assume US makes up most of the population and using a 11AM/12CST time on a Monday to judge population likely will give lower numbers.

I still think there was a dropoff though. The game is super complicated to get settings to feel good, otherwise game is frustrating, as if the gameplay is not already.

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People love to nitpick or bring up insignificant things as these huge issues that stop people from playing.

Gamers are simple dude, you give them a game that is fun for them and they’ll play it.

Infinite just has a very small amount of features and modes for players. Its only redeemable quality is its MP, and like every single other game on the market offers more content and modes than Infinite so you as a player have no reason to play it.

simple stuff folks. In order to get more players you need to offer more, nothing too complicated here.

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