What exactly is a social playlist to you? Is it just non-competitive? An “easy-mode” playlist?
As someone who is a casual gamer, playing ranked SWAT is a social playlist to me because I just don’t worry about the rank when I don’t want to worry about it, but I understand that people care about ranks and care about having a social playlist.
Is a playlist not considered social because you get matched against a better team then you? Or is it the theory that there is behind-the-scenes-matchmaking going on? Wouldn’t that matchmaking in a social playlist be better than not having a matchmaking component?
This is all pure curiosity that I’ve gotten from reading posts about the need for more social playlists in H5. Thanks!
Don’t show any stats. As soon as you start giving people K/Ds and stuff they will take it super serious and ruin it for others.
No hidden mmr. Sometimes you dominate and sometimes you get dominate, that is what social always has been. Now I have to play against the same people that I would in Ranked Arena. The games are automatically going to be close and competitive because of this.
Regular settings. I want to play social but with the normal Arena settings and weapon layouts. Fiesta, Griffball or Infection alone don’t satisfy me.
A social playlist is where you can play without worrying about getting deranked or whatever when you want to relax, mess around, or you’re drunk.
This would include basic gametypes, however Infection is also social because its fun and “non-competitive,” as well as fiesta, and modes of the like.
Do you not remember Rumble from 4? All the fun BS gametypes. But people just want to be able to relax sometimes without having to go HAM and stay with a team. Social you can play alone.
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> 1. Don’t show any stats. As soon as you start giving people K/Ds and stuff they will take it super serious and ruin it for others.
> 2. No hidden mmr. Sometimes you dominate and sometimes you get dominate, that is what social always has been. Now I have to play against the same people that I would in Ranked Arena. The games are automatically going to be close and competitive because of this.
> 3. Regular settings. I want to play social but with the normal Arena settings and weapon layouts. Fiesta, Griffball or Infection alone don’t satisfy me.
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> Three simple points for me. That is all.
So people are okay with getting pooped on in a social playlist?
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> A social playlist is where you can play without worrying about getting deranked or whatever when you want to relax, mess around, or you’re drunk.
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> This would include basic gametypes, however Infection is also social because its fun and “non-competitive,” as well as fiesta, and modes of the like.
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> Do you not remember Rumble from 4? All the fun BS gametypes. But people just want to be able to relax sometimes without having to go HAM and stay with a team. Social you can play alone.
Is that not what the current social playlists are? Or are you saying that they’re competitive?
I just want stat tracking removed from social playlists if not the whole game in general, then I might be able to kick back and have fun instead of being a sweaty try hard 24/7.
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> > 1. Don’t show any stats. As soon as you start giving people K/Ds and stuff they will take it super serious and ruin it for others.
> > 2. No hidden mmr. Sometimes you dominate and sometimes you get dominate, that is what social always has been. Now I have to play against the same people that I would in Ranked Arena. The games are automatically going to be close and competitive because of this.
> > 3. Regular settings. I want to play social but with the normal Arena settings and weapon layouts. Fiesta, Griffball or Infection alone don’t satisfy me.
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> > Three simple points for me. That is all.
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> So people are okay with getting pooped on in a social playlist?
Usually people do worry about w/l, k/d, and ranking in games and because of that they want to play a game mode where the game makes them stop caring about stuff like that where k/d, w/l and ranking aren’t effected, the problem with current social playlist being they effect all of that
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> > 1. Don’t show any stats. As soon as you start giving people K/Ds and stuff they will take it super serious and ruin it for others.
> > 2. No hidden mmr. Sometimes you dominate and sometimes you get dominate, that is what social always has been. Now I have to play against the same people that I would in Ranked Arena. The games are automatically going to be close and competitive because of this.
> > 3. Regular settings. I want to play social but with the normal Arena settings and weapon layouts. Fiesta, Griffball or Infection alone don’t satisfy me.
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> > Three simple points for me. That is all.
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> So people are okay with getting pooped on in a social playlist?
Not people. I am. I prefere getting stomped here and there over sweaty close games every game.
In ranked its the other way around.
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> > 1. Don’t show any stats. As soon as you start giving people K/Ds and stuff they will take it super serious and ruin it for others.
> > 2. No hidden mmr. Sometimes you dominate and sometimes you get dominate, that is what social always has been. Now I have to play against the same people that I would in Ranked Arena. The games are automatically going to be close and competitive because of this.
> > 3. Regular settings. I want to play social but with the normal Arena settings and weapon layouts. Fiesta, Griffball or Infection alone don’t satisfy me.
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> > Three simple points for me. That is all.
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> So people are okay with getting pooped on in a social playlist?
Without stat tracking getting pooped on wouldn’t even matter.
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> > > 1. Don’t show any stats. As soon as you start giving people K/Ds and stuff they will take it super serious and ruin it for others.
> > > 2. No hidden mmr. Sometimes you dominate and sometimes you get dominate, that is what social always has been. Now I have to play against the same people that I would in Ranked Arena. The games are automatically going to be close and competitive because of this.
> > > 3. Regular settings. I want to play social but with the normal Arena settings and weapon layouts. Fiesta, Griffball or Infection alone don’t satisfy me.
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> > > Three simple points for me. That is all.
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> > So people are okay with getting pooped on in a social playlist?
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> Not people. I am. I prefere getting stomped here and there over sweaty close games every game.
> In ranked its the other way around.
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> > > 1. Don’t show any stats. As soon as you start giving people K/Ds and stuff they will take it super serious and ruin it for others.
> > > 2. No hidden mmr. Sometimes you dominate and sometimes you get dominate, that is what social always has been. Now I have to play against the same people that I would in Ranked Arena. The games are automatically going to be close and competitive because of this.
> > > 3. Regular settings. I want to play social but with the normal Arena settings and weapon layouts. Fiesta, Griffball or Infection alone don’t satisfy me.
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> > > Three simple points for me. That is all.
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> > So people are okay with getting pooped on in a social playlist?
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> On occasion its fine, just not too frequently.
Why? Because you want social to just be easy? Or you don’t want “try hards” or whatever coming into social to pad stats?
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> > > 1. Don’t show any stats. As soon as you start giving people K/Ds and stuff they will take it super serious and ruin it for others.
> > > 2. No hidden mmr. Sometimes you dominate and sometimes you get dominate, that is what social always has been. Now I have to play against the same people that I would in Ranked Arena. The games are automatically going to be close and competitive because of this.
> > > 3. Regular settings. I want to play social but with the normal Arena settings and weapon layouts. Fiesta, Griffball or Infection alone don’t satisfy me.
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> > > Three simple points for me. That is all.
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> > So people are okay with getting pooped on in a social playlist?
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> Without stat tracking getting pooped on wouldn’t even matter.
So I’m hearing that the stats are the biggest issue currently, right? That makes sense
When I think of a social playlist, there are a few things that I immediately think of.
Being able to join mid-game/being able to leave early.
I think this would make for a good social playlist feature. Believe me, no ones hates quitters more than me, but especially in a social playlist I should not be penalized for a teammate leaving me. Just let someone else join in, it isn’t ranked anyway.
No banning. Sure, you can still boot a teammate for friendly fire, but they would not receive a ban for it. Going back to number 1, just let someone new join mid-game.
Map choice of some sort.
Being able to veto a map would make social a little more social IMO.
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> > > > 1. Don’t show any stats. As soon as you start giving people K/Ds and stuff they will take it super serious and ruin it for others.
> > > > 2. No hidden mmr. Sometimes you dominate and sometimes you get dominate, that is what social always has been. Now I have to play against the same people that I would in Ranked Arena. The games are automatically going to be close and competitive because of this.
> > > > 3. Regular settings. I want to play social but with the normal Arena settings and weapon layouts. Fiesta, Griffball or Infection alone don’t satisfy me.
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> > > > Three simple points for me. That is all.
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> So I’m hearing that the stats are the biggest issue currently, right? That makes sense
I look at my stats as a validation of my worth as a teammate (and so do other people.) You see someone who does good, you want to play with them and make a better team. That’s why I always play hard, so I can be the most worthwhile teammate and keep my stats more positive than negative.
If stat tracking was turned off in social, I wouldn’t have to be on the edge of my seat sweating blood (exaggeration) in arena. I could Relax, have fun, and experiment with my load out rather than try hard all day everyday.
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> > > > 1. Don’t show any stats. As soon as you start giving people K/Ds and stuff they will take it super serious and ruin it for others.
> > > > 2. No hidden mmr. Sometimes you dominate and sometimes you get dominate, that is what social always has been. Now I have to play against the same people that I would in Ranked Arena. The games are automatically going to be close and competitive because of this.
> > > > 3. Regular settings. I want to play social but with the normal Arena settings and weapon layouts. Fiesta, Griffball or Infection alone don’t satisfy me.
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> > > > > 1. Don’t show any stats. As soon as you start giving people K/Ds and stuff they will take it super serious and ruin it for others.
> > > > > 2. No hidden mmr. Sometimes you dominate and sometimes you get dominate, that is what social always has been. Now I have to play against the same people that I would in Ranked Arena. The games are automatically going to be close and competitive because of this.
> > > > > 3. Regular settings. I want to play social but with the normal Arena settings and weapon layouts. Fiesta, Griffball or Infection alone don’t satisfy me.
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> and you can play by yourself
You can play by yourself in every playlist though. I do it all the time
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> When I think of a social playlist, there are a few things that I immediately think of.
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> 1. Being able to join mid-game/being able to leave early.
> I think this would make for a good social playlist feature. Believe me, no ones hates quitters more than me, but especially in a social playlist I should not be penalized for a teammate leaving me. Just let someone else join in, it isn’t ranked anyway.
> 2. No banning. Sure, you can still boot a teammate for friendly fire, but they would not receive a ban for it. Going back to number 1, just let someone new join mid-game.
> 3. Map choice of some sort.
> Being able to veto a map would make social a little more social IMO.
Oh yea that’s a good idea! Just totally laid back, I like it.
In my mind Social should definitely not track stats. The moment K/D or W/L comes into play then it gets serious because there’s always that bunch of people who have things like “You must maintain a +2,0 K/D to stay in my company!” kind of attitude, which is fine if that’s how you want to veto players for your company, but when Social playlists contribute to that stat it suddenly becomes competitive because you don’t want to get dropped from your company for relaxing and not playing at your best all the time.
Remove the stat tracking and it all goes away. People won’t get so worked up about wins and losses, or deaths. Of course we still want to play to win, but to me Social means that there’s no consequences to worry about. Just play and have fun because it doesn’t actually matter. You could have any game type as a Social list, in fact I’d advocate that every mode should be somewhere in the Social playlist pantheon. Just don’t track stats. If you want to play competitively in an environment where those stats matter then there’s competitive playlists to do that in.