What did they do wrong. Listen to us? No. It pisses me off that people degrade 343i for making a game that takes absolute skill to make. I’m 17 years old. Make it yourself. Then we will compare and see if you can make a -Yoinking!- better game. Sure I gave them -Yoink- for it too, but that was before they impressed me with halo 4""Please feal free to debate in this topic.
I’m editing since people are -Yoinking!- hammering this to what I didn’t want. What I mean to say is. 343i is and industry specialized for making Halo. Some Bungie members wanted to continue with halo, so they moved to 343. Making a game is hard. You have to Graphoc Content, the timing for certain events, get the tech that best unifies the game and most of all get what the pieole want. Here’s the thing. There will always. ALWAYS be something they don’t do. Why? Maybe it can be dlc and they can get cash. Its marketing. Not that hard. So know I ask. What’s the difference between Bungie and 343? Why do you like whom better. This topic is being updated and I’m adding a Poll. Thank you for the support. And I intend to make more aguable topics. If you wish.
I think they’re doing great, people just need to realize that you can’t satisfy everyone, so you’re always going to have someone who hates something new and someone who loves it.
Oh dear, I hate to be mean. But prepare for the insults coming soon, seems to be a pattern with these kinds of threads. No matter who you are in this community, if you’re pro 343 or against, you’re bound to be attacked by the other party. Just, warning you now.
Honestly, I do agree with both party’s. 343i launched with a good campaign, and a excellent multiplayer. The idea of free DLC every month was a change in my eyes. They had good intentions, honest to god they did. However, at the same time. The point of DLC is to add new content, not already developed ones. Also, the REQ system is flawed since Archilles entered the scene. I believe, that if they had kept the free DLC’s to strictly new maps and REQs then I would of been happy. Maybe throw in the odd game mode that they created in the mix, such as the adapted Warzone Firefight. I love and hate 343i, just stating what I think of them, essentially.
Halo 5 disappointed.
The Campaign had the weakest story in the series and wasn’t as long as they boasted.
The Multiplayer had only a fraction of the content even the original Halo CE had in its time, and even now 6 months after release the game lacks plenty features that were trademarks of the multiplayer in previous Halos.
So to some it up, the name HALO creates a certain expectation and sets a certain standard. The Halo 5 343i shipped did not meet that standard, and though the multiplayer is slowly (painfully slow) achieving its potential… the Campaign is unchangeable.
And besides, there will always be haters. Even Halo 3 has haters. Even 2 had them. It’s part of the industry, and it’s mostly the result of the huge amount of young gamers (the kind that will talk -Yoink- on the web because the anonimity protects them). You need to learn to look away from that -Yoink-, but there is still plenty civilized discussion going on that criticizes the game for good reason.
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> What did they do wrong. Listen to us? No. It pisses me off that people degrade 343i for making a game that takes absolute skill to make. I’m 17 years old. Make it yourself. Then we will compare and see if you can make a -Yoinking!- better game. Sure I gave them dshit for it too, but that was before they impressed me with halo 4""Please feal free to debate in this topic.
This argument is worthless. They are the producer, we are the customer. In this relationship it is our job to give the producer (343) feedback so that they can make a better product that we will enjoy even more, so that we will give them money. Its a very simple and fair process, they give us entertainment, we give them money, we critique it, they make it better, we enjoy it more, they make the next one better, we give them more money. We don’t make the game, and we don’t say that we can do better.
what did they do wrong? the campaign that is all…multiplayer is fine but surely the campaign is the most important aspect of a game? multiplayer should just be a bonus not the sole purpose of the game which clearly 343i focused on the most , they just clearly did not care for the story aspect’s as with the lack of terminals =/
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> what did they do wrong? the campaign that is all…multiplayer is fine but surely the campaign is the most important aspect of a game? multiplayer should just be a bonus not the sole purpose of the game which clearly 343i focused on the most , they just clearly did not care for the story aspect’s as with the lack of terminals =/
You are the only person who thinks this haha (not literally)
Multiplayer is way bigger than the campaign. Yes, almost everyone plays the campaign, but most people buy the game mostly for the MP. That was the dumbest sounding sentence I’ve ever written, but I made my point.
People are mad because every game has its flaws it just that, these flaws are in a different category than flaws from the other halo games so the community is having a different reaction or just harder time due to the new experience. Past halo games had things like balance problems, or cut content from the story, while halo 5 is more of cut content from the multiplayer so instead of the campaign community getting mad over campaign things its the multiplayer community getting mad over cuts in their territory. Personally I liked the campaign it thought it served as an introduction to the rest of the future games and it did that well, other people are use to the game kind of having an enemy on each and a purpose besides the big man in the background (like the gravemind), but that was because the other halos had the covenant war to deal with.
Might want to change that dshit its against forum rules to bypass the word filter.
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> What did they do wrong. Listen to us? No. It pisses me off that people degrade 343i for making a game that takes absolute skill to make. I’m 17 years old. Make it yourself. Then we will compare and see if you can make a -Yoinking!- better game. Sure I gave them dshit for it too, but that was before they impressed me with halo 4""Please feal free to debate in this topic.
Clearly you don’t understand we aren’t developers. We don’t make games, we buy them. Next time don’t criticize anything unless you can do better, going by your logic.
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> > what did they do wrong? the campaign that is all…multiplayer is fine but surely the campaign is the most important aspect of a game? multiplayer should just be a bonus not the sole purpose of the game which clearly 343i focused on the most , they just clearly did not care for the story aspect’s as with the lack of terminals =/
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> Multiplayer is way bigger than the campaign. Yes, almost everyone plays the campaign, but most people buy the game mostly for the MP. That was the dumbest sounding sentence I’ve ever written, but I made my point.
Granted the mp is always the true hype. But for a game’s longevity, the campaign is super important. Regardless how awesome the multiplayer is, i’d say most people get tired of it at some point or another and want to hop on and play some campaign to kick back a bit. If the campaign sucks though, they will turn to a different game to play to get a different experience instead. I think that’s why halo fluctuates so much in the top ten playlist because for most people if you aren’t playing multiplayer you’re not playing halo (unless you are a forger which i am not).
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> > > what did they do wrong? the campaign that is all…multiplayer is fine but surely the campaign is the most important aspect of a game? multiplayer should just be a bonus not the sole purpose of the game which clearly 343i focused on the most , they just clearly did not care for the story aspect’s as with the lack of terminals =/
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> > Multiplayer is way bigger than the campaign. Yes, almost everyone plays the campaign, but most people buy the game mostly for the MP. That was the dumbest sounding sentence I’ve ever written, but I made my point.
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> Granted the mp is always the true hype. But for a game’s longevity, the campaign is super important. Regardless how awesome the multiplayer is, i’d say most people get tired of it at some point or another and want to hop on and play some campaign to kick back a bit. If the campaign sucks though, they will turn to a different game to play to get a different experience instead. I think that’s why halo fluctuates so much in the top ten playlist because for most people if you aren’t playing multiplayer you’re not playing halo (unless you are a forger which i am not).
That’s the point I’m making, most people consider multiplayer more important.
Of course Halo isn’t as bad as, say, CoD. There are a TON of CoD players that never play the campaign.
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> What did they do wrong. Listen to us? No. It pisses me off that people degrade 343i for making a game that takes absolute skill to make. I’m 17 years old. Make it yourself. Then we will compare and see if you can make a -Yoinking!- better game. Sure I gave them dshit for it too, but that was before they impressed me with halo 4""Please feal free to debate in this topic.
Why is this still used as an argument against, well, anything?
To those of you saying my argument is pointless, I see you don’t get my point. I’m trying to say, it is a pointless argument. But there is so much debate. I believe 343i is doing great! So don’t h8
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> What did they do wrong. Listen to us? No. It pisses me off that people degrade 343i for making a game that takes absolute skill to make. I’m 17 years old. Make it yourself. Then we will compare and see if you can make a -Yoinking!- better game. Sure I gave them -Yoink- for it too, but that was before they impressed me with halo 4""Please feal free to debate in this topic.
The whole make it yourself argument is a stupid one. Halo 1 had more playable content then halo 5, thats a problem. PERIOD.
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> To those of you saying my argument is pointless, I see you don’t get my point. I’m trying to say, it is a pointless argument. But there is so much debate. I believe 343i is doing great! So don’t h8
But wait don’t hesitate and be late to date a mate from your home state that can skate
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> What did they do wrong. Listen to us? No. It pisses me off that people degrade 343i for making a game that takes absolute skill to make. I’m 17 years old. Make it yourself. Then we will compare and see if you can make a -Yoinking!- better game. Sure I gave them -Yoink- for it too, but that was before they impressed me with halo 4""Please feal free to debate in this topic.
Lol! What a pathetic post.
So… if I’m at a restaurant, and I get served a disgusting meal… your advice would be that I should cook it myself? Or if my car breaks down and I pay a mechanic to fix it, and it’s still not right, I should roll my sleeves up and fix it myself? Lol, get real. I pay for a product or service, someone provides the product or service. That’s how businesses work, didn’t you know that?
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> > What did they do wrong. Listen to us? No. It pisses me off that people degrade 343i for making a game that takes absolute skill to make. I’m 17 years old. Make it yourself. Then we will compare and see if you can make a -Yoinking!- better game. Sure I gave them -Yoink- for it too, but that was before they impressed me with halo 4""Please feal free to debate in this topic.
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> So… if I’m at a restaurant, and I get served a disgusting meal… your advice would be that I should cook it myself? Or if my car breaks down and I pay a mechanic to fix it, and it’s still not right, I should roll my sleeves up and fix it myself? Lol, get real. I pay for a product or service, someone provides the product or service. That’s how businesses work, didn’t you know that?
If he understood that, do you really think he would have made this topic?
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> Oh dear, I hate to be mean. But prepare for the insults coming soon, seems to be a pattern with these kinds of threads. No matter who you are in this community, if you’re pro 343 or against, you’re bound to be attacked by the other party. Just, warning you now.
I read that in Exuberant Witness’ voice.
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> Honestly, I do agree with both party’s. 343i launched with a good campaign, and a excellent multiplayer. The idea of free DLC every month was a change in my eyes. They had good intentions, honest to god they did. However, at the same time. The point of DLC is to add new content, not already developed ones. Also, the REQ system is flawed since Archilles entered the scene. I believe, that if they had kept the free DLC’s to strictly new maps and REQs then I would of been happy. Maybe throw in the odd game mode that they created in the mix, such as the adapted Warzone Firefight. I love and hate 343i, just stating what I think of them, essentially.
Exactly how I am. I am not a Bungie Purist, who despises every little detail in the new games just because Bungie isn’t in control. Nor am I a 343 Patriot, who think every little detail is amazing just because they are REACH kids. I love HALO 5, second on my favorite list; but being the old school guy that I am, HALO 2 tops the list. I like and dislike aspects in every HALO game that ever released (yes people, HALO 3 is not a perfect or near perfect game either).