It’s already different from what we’ve come to expect.
Open-world, free-to-play, awful pricing, etc.
Either way, I don’t think battle royale would be off the mark.
This is after they fix things and far down the road.
Plus, it wouldn’t take nearly as much effort as you’re saying.
And if it hadn’t been added, you would be saying it’s not a Halo game mode, that they shouldn’t copy other game’s modes, etc.
Yet it was added, and you say it’s a beloved mode that fans are used to.
Well, how can they get used to and like anything else that’s new if it isn’t added?
As for Warzone, I’d say a large part of the problem was Halo 5 and its loot boxes.
My feeling is that it will get worse either way.
Companies have been pushing to get people to accept high prices and microtransactions for a while, and I doubt Microsoft of all companies is going to be one of the companies that stops pushing, unless they continue to get backlash.
However, if backlash like that does happen, a battle royale won’t make things worse.
Most of the ones saying no haven’t actually played a battle royale mode either.
Nowadays there are some that take a long time to fix important things, but that’s not true of every developer.
No.
Challenge swapping.
I’m not saying it will be slow because of how long it takes to create the content, I’m saying they won’t release new content quickly.
Even if a battle royale mode was added, content additions wouldn’t be released any slower than they would be without it.
The gameplay would feel okay in a battle royale mode as well.
Also, no, it doesn’t have the feel of a classic arena shooter.
The battle royale modes are popular, but the arena modes still get played.
Not for COD Mobile.
Both modes are in one game.
A battle royale isn’t as complex as you seem to think it is.
You think they won’t have things sorted out in a few years from now?
I stated it was 2018 when COD started the BR mode so yea it do think they can sort it, but educate yourself on game development, play all other BR games out there like COD and get back to us in a few years when you have a better understanding of the depth of balance in a BR game.
I’ve already played various battle royale games.
Also, I was trying to say that they should already have the issues in Infinite sorted out a few years from now, not that they can sort out a battle royale mode in a few years.
The reason being that no one here is asking for it to be added now while there are issues.
As I said it should be an addition to the game something well tought.
You are talking like we request it right now… I hope you get it like this: It is something for the FUTURE after everything works right.
You could do challanges from the normal Battle Pass within any mode (atleast that is what i am hoping for once firefight and warzone maybe have a comeback Thats what Apex Legends does not doing right force players to play a certain mode for the challanges). They could add special emblems, backplates, armor, effects even a own level/ranking system that are tied to Battle Royal and that does not need to be in seasons because that would force ppl to play a certain game mode within a certain time and that is a bad thing. As you can see there are some low effort things to maintain the mode so that not to much work force is spend on your so hated idea of a Battle Royal in Halo
I have so much ideas (PvP and PVE related) what could be added to the game to make it even better after it is finished. I dont get your point how adding a game mode makes the game worse for other players that are not interessted in that mode, that just dont make any sense…
By the way 343 could also hire new ppl if they are willing to develop a Battle Royal. You are just assuming that they would do it without addition to the team, that would be brave to try to make a BR without experience.
never played it because it looked stupid to me but I can refer to Apex Legends, Arena mode did so well that it got its own ranked matchmaking.
I do agree with you for now the game needs in my opinion more maps, some more maps, warzone and firefight comeback, general level/rank system and so on you can read that in my feedback and wishes after 100h+ into multiplayer post.
There you have a point, if they want to do it they would have to do within in a quick time after the decision was made. That would be no prob if the whole studio focus on that., but that requires that the game is polished and content is in the pipe. But I do not think that Battle Royals will die out.
Thats totally okay if you dont like them or like watching them. I dont like to watch them neither but I do like to play them. But approximately 300k ppl do like to watch it.
As I said I have tones of ideas, that I will work out an d post here so stay tuned, Battle Royal was just the easiest and fastets thing that I was able to work out.
I love that statment from you since I feel like debating with @Stryke_07 does not reach some valueable point to the topic. For me his only statement is I dont like it, I dont want to play it, it will harm the main game. It feels like he does not engage my statements nor does he think any further…
Battle Royal is a game mode that became a genre because the developers made it as a game as a service.
That is my opinion. If the hardware and engines were capabel earlier we would have more CoDs with a Battle Royal mode since game as a service became more and more a thing with battle pass and f2p games.
You can do that but you cant if the game dies before that. If you do some research you will see how much players are already turning their back and leave the game. f2p games tend to go offline if they dont pay off anymore. So a huge playerbase would benefit you…
and one more: Halo can stay unique and have a BR mode one does not neglect the other but that requiers that Halo is finished which is currently not the case!
Jeah because that would totally be a hit… just think…
A team that has made a real-time strategy game making a FPS Battle Royal mode and why not add it to Infinite? Some of the Halo Wars developers are 343 “ressources”…
As I mentioned before, I don’t see any constructive sense in talking to you… but maybe you check out this post: feedback and wishes after 100h+ into multiplayer so that you see that I am well aware of the current problems.
I would know
Camping is lame and would not work with my idea since there is another wining condition.
I think the main problem here is that the forum is just 1 wall without any structure just the tags, not only the PPL that are interessted or have a reasonable, understandable opinion show up in those idea threads. Because right now this is not really about how the mode or other additions could be made (That`s what was tzhe idea for this). Right now it is it takes ressources, time from the core game that is not polished yet. We do know that Halo Infinite has a way to go and needs workbefore anything new can find its way into the game.
Most PPL think we request this asap…
Sadly thats the truth… onething that i hate about the “new” industry everything is released as Alpha/Beta/Early Access because we can fix it later (bad mentality) or with help of the playerbase (good idea)
But again we the customers are to blame for that because we cant wait anymore…
That has to be tested, we cant say this for sure and to be honest I think it would be fun to play with exactly the same weapons from arena. movment speed could be set to 125% Sure it would feel a bit faster than arena.
Warzone was fun in Halo 5 but the Lootboxes made it unbalanced and that ruined it…
I still disagree, no matter how different it may seem, it’s still a Halo title at its core. But you can’t expect everyone to agree with one another.
I mean, there’s a reason why most BR games have the BR as their focus, and it’s not because it’s the more ‘popular’ mode.
But it was and BR was not, so that’s where we are, not the other way around. In any other scenario, maybe that would be the case, but we didn’t get a BR mode, we got a FF.
Have you seen a lot of the BR games out there? They’re huge money hogs for cosmetic crap, Halo would likely follow the same formula because Microsoft would see the benefit of dangling more crap in front of people. We’re trying to take steps back, not leaps into the tar pit.
Because it’s not their thing, they don’t care for a BR mode and therefore don’t want one. It’s true that what you watch and what you play are different things, but if the consumer doesn’t like what it sees, it’s not gonna buy into it. So if they don’t feel it holds their interest and they’re the majority according to response ratios…
Yea, I have no problem with BR’s or a BR mode of Halo. I have a problem with people thinking it’s so easy that 343 can pivot, while they still don’t have Forge ready yet.
Impossible with current technology. Even if you assume they lowered the native resolution to 720p for everyone, the reality is that that many players would be far beyond what current systems can run. I think about 60 or so is about the max number currently possible.
AI’s would be neat in a BR mode
If it is possible I imagine them using Campaign assets to be far more difficult/complex then Forge would be. So I feel as though any BR mode would have to be done via Forge. Want more BR maps? They’ll just release more Forge palettes. It makes so many things possible and allows for more variety I feel.
BR mode would be cool long term, but honestly they have so many other priorities right now that I think it should be 1 or 2 years away minimum.
If (and that’s a big if) Halo every did a battle royal it should be an ODST based game on a planet like Harvest shortly after the Covenant attack. Or maybe based during the insurrection wars. I personally don’t think it should be Spartan based at all.
The benefit of it being ODST’s is that it would be more immersive and could lead to some cool (and unique) cosmetics for the ODST model, the issue is that A) the entire cosmetic system is already designed for Spartans and B) it wouldn’t make realistic sense. How would an ODST use a grapplehook for example?
Its a neat idea, but the costs probably outweigh the benefit in that scenario.
it doesnt have to be the team that actually made halo wars. just a different studio all together. Halo wars or even ODST like a halo br would be a different game essentially and would indeed require different balancing its not as simple as slapping current assets into a big campaign area and saying go at it… so if a halo br came out within the halo universe from a studio fully dedicated to it using whatever weapons or locations or gadgets from the halo universe and did not compromise or interfere in any way with halos core games that would be fine. its the same thing COD did. Why is it so important you must have it in Infinite while also denying any possibility that them trying to develop and support 2 completely different genre modes within one studio making both equally engaging as live services simutaneously wouldnt have a negative impact on one or the other.
see now thats a halo BR i would support. More games to add to the halo universe, its own team of devs, its own lore. More halo universe to dive into without taking recourses from existing games. It would also allow for a better br experience with better tools suited for the style. also it could add to the lore in a much bigger way
while halo infinite can focus on getting the arena feel down using the whole team to develop new maps, updates, better store, new modes that actually fit the genre, king of the hill, multi team. more ranked playlists and more.
I mean, MS would have to hire hundreds of new employees, teach them how to code and create a Halo game, then they’d have to make it work in line with Infinite, but yeah, they could do that. Just seems like wayyyy too much effort for low reward.
We already have that, or have you not seen all of the people buying things from the store?
The only difference is that we don’t have a battle royale mode.
That’s like saying you don’t like pizza because it isn’t what you like, even though you’ve never eaten a pizza.
If that were true, battle royales wouldn’t be popular.
First, they wouldn’t necessarily have to hire more. 343 has a large team now. They also wouldn’t have to teach anyone anything. They only hire professionals.
Second, it doesn’t have to work with Infinite at all. It’s possible to have a completely separate game set in the same universe.
Third, If it’s even somewhat decent like Warzone or Apex it would definitely not be low reward. Those games have made billions.
You are trivializing dev process. I’ll just say that it would make far far more sense if they just made a BR mode work in Infinite, drastically less expensive to create, no reason that them creating one from the ground up would have higher profit potential either so its more sensible to me.
For all we know its possible that MS have already hired a team to build a Halo BR mode, but I personally think that the reality of the situation is that 343i have planned a BR mode for years (hence the Attrition gametype) but recognized they wouldn’t be able to do it at launch.
microsoft has a lot of internal studios, having one make the a halo BR would be quite easy. Ensemble and creative assembly where the studios that made the halo wars games. It would be just as easy for them to hand off a BR to another studio that can still work under the guidance of 343 but not take many 343 recourses away from infinite. Allowing 343 to focus on infinite.
Battle Royale would certainly work and the fact that the franchise core mechanic of everyone having SHIELDS lends to it more than other shooters on the market.
Think about the LORE of HALO.
These are super humans with Ironman suits with Energy Shields and Thrusters. The game already always incorporated dropships etc etc.
It is actually the BEST game for a Battle Royale still game lore wise.
It doesn’t even have to be traditional concepts…change the concept like Apex did with respawns and character system(not saying add characters lol just saying it doesn’t have to copy everything) I don’t want people getting too caught up in what a battle royale HAS to be.
For instance you don’t even have to have a ring or gas cloud etc…although I liked the ring of fire concept from the failed Battlefield firestorm lol.
Warzone has the gas…which fits modern warfare tactics etc…
Point is make it Halo Lore wise…it is a game with laser weapons after all.
The equipment has already been decoupled from the core game allowing for pickups throughout the map.
The weapon variety is already there.
The ODST can even have A.I. encounters with the covenant or flood even on the map in areas.
This genre could easily be adopted into the Halo Universe…
I don’t think it should be separate from Infinite though as others stated.
Just Free to Play like the rest of the multiplayer package.
Then Bring FireFight back and Forge and this game could be another/different MCC as far as content. One old school Halo and another modern but Halo.
I know we have a market system, but a BR mode will only make it worse since BR’s center around cosmetics for some reason.
The child’s mindset I believe they call it, but it is what it is. Players will not buy into something that doesn’t even remotely look interesting to them. Much like children won’t eat things they don’t deem good and they won’t do things they don’t wanna do. It seems to be a mindset we keep no matter what age we get to.
That’s not the same thing. Different people like different things and it seems to be so that a lot of people do not care for a BR in Halo. Some may not mind it, but they’d rather not add something unnecessary.
Also I’m ending this conversation purely because we’ve gotten very much off track of what the topic is about.
