To those who have used snap map in the new doom know that this feature alone could support the game post launch forever. To those who don’t know it is like forge on every drug out there . In snap map you can create single player and multiplayer maps spawn enemy npc and effect them with logic. Say you enter a room and see the BFG when you pick it up a bunch of enemies spawn or you want to make a boss fight you can tweek the health, damage, and speed or say you don’t know what you want to do with a room you can set it to random and every time you play the enemy placement is different. I believe if forge gave you this option and had a working file share people would play halo longer post launch.
Sounds really interesting tell me more
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> To those who have used snap map in the new doom know that this feature alone could support the game post launch forever. To those who don’t know it is like forge on every drug out there . In snap map you can create single player and multiplayer maps spawn enemy npc and effect them with logic. Say you enter a room and see the BFG when you pick it up a bunch of enemies spawn or you want to make a boss fight you can tweek the health, damage, and speed or say you don’t know what you want to do with a room you can set it to random and every time you play the enemy placement is different. I believe if forge gave you this option and had a working file share people would play halo longer post launch.
It’s definitely a good way to add longevity to the game. Could help beginning forgers as well.
A.I. Is the only difference between forge and snap map, and adding a.I to forge has been an on going want from the community for years but it’s just not a priority. Bungie and 343 have both wanted to try but like I said, it’s not a priority and personally I don’t think it’d be that much of a positive since forge is already very popular for post launch longevity in the creative community. Would it add to it? Absolutely but even pvp focused creations have added years to this game.
what people don’t seem to realize is halo was then inventors of the “create a map” in games.
in the past halo has perfected forge and other games like Doom are actually copying from previous halo games (halo3 and reach). now we have 343 dismantling forge and it is pretty useless to offer helpful advice to a company that destroyed the best create-a-map game ever made with halo 5.
I think 343 is limiting forge possibilities because it would allow the community to create game modes and maps that could make in-house creations look inferior. 343 seems to want to govern how much fun we are allowed to have. so as good as your idea may sound, i don’t think we will ever see it.
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> what people don’t seem to realize is halo was then inventors of the “create a map” in games.
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> in the past halo has perfected forge and other games like Doom are actually copying from previous halo games (halo3 and reach). now we have 343 dismantling forge and it is pretty useless to offer helpful advice to a company that destroyed the best create-a-map game ever made with halo 5.
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> I think 343 is limiting forge possibilities because it would allow the community to create game modes and maps that could make in-house creations look inferior. 343 seems to want to govern how much fun we are allowed to have.
You’re -Yoinking!- crazy dude, h5s forge is the best one yet, you can make maps move… And weather effects, and fusing things together, and you think they’re trying to Sabotage it? Just wow. If there’s anything h5s done great on, it’s forge for sure.
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> what people don’t seem to realize is halo was then inventors of the “create a map” in games.
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> in the past halo has perfected forge and other games like Doom are actually copying from previous halo games (halo3 and reach). now we have 343 dismantling forge and it is pretty useless to offer helpful advice to a company that destroyed the best create-a-map game ever made with halo 5.
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> I think 343 is limiting forge possibilities because it would allow the community to create game modes and maps that could make in-house creations look inferior. 343 seems to want to govern how much fun we are allowed to have.
I know you guys love to -Yoink- on 343 but this is just nonsense.
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> > in the past halo has perfected forge and other games like Doom are actually copying from previous halo games (halo3 and reach). now we have 343 dismantling forge and it is pretty useless to offer helpful advice to a company that destroyed the best create-a-map game ever made with halo 5.
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> > I think 343 is limiting forge possibilities because it would allow the community to create game modes and maps that could make in-house creations look inferior. 343 seems to want to govern how much fun we are allowed to have.
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> You’re -Yoinking!- crazy dude, h5s forge is the best one yet, you can make maps move… And weather effects, and fusing things together, and you think they’re trying to Sabotage it? Just wow. If there’s anything h5s done great on, it’s forge for sure.
I have never had the opportunity to play a single forge game mode in halo5. why? they make us find our own friends to play this game mode. Im not going out to find friends to play a game mode. reach was a million time better in giving us forge freedom.
all you do in halo5 forge is twiddle your fingers exploring maps and never get the opportunity to play full games with them, so you are -Yoinking!- crazy.
Nothing, because Doom and Halo are two different games.
Honestly? AI inclusion.
No seriously, if something as comparatively rudimentary as Snapmap can pull off solid AI, I’m 100% certain that Halo 5 can.
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> Honestly? AI inclusion.
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> No seriously, if something as comparatively rudimentary as Snapmap can pull off solid AI, I’m 100% certain that Halo 5 can.
It will never happen… Active AI in forge mode? Sounds like it will be too much “Fun” for halo5.
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> > in the past halo has perfected forge and other games like Doom are actually copying from previous halo games (halo3 and reach). now we have 343 dismantling forge and it is pretty useless to offer helpful advice to a company that destroyed the best create-a-map game ever made with halo 5.
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> I know you guys love to -Yoink- on 343 but this is just nonsense.
That’s because he’s trolling. Even -Yoinking!- ExciteBike had a map editor.
@CopperySinger5
…what? You have file share and forge confused.
" I think 343 is limiting forge possibilities"
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=MTMoets6iU8
You call that limited? Do you even listen to yourself think before you post?
… Snap map works differently for AI and is in some ways more limited from what I’ve seen, from a palette standpoint. It’s also only 4 players max so…
As for AI? Maybe next game,
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> …what? You have file share and forge confused.
> " I think 343 is limiting forge possibilities"
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> You call that limited? Do you even listen to yourself think before you post?
there is no confusion between file share and forge. I know exactly what i’m referring to. Spend less time trying to insult me and spend more time to get your facts right.
Halo Reach’s file share was in-game and then after downloading a map you could easily invite/join a party or even send/receive invites from last players met (also if not mistaken, you could change your network settings to “open party”). When this was in effect, I had the opportunity to play an endless variety of community made games without struggling to find someone to play with outside that game. In halo 5 you have to run away from the game and hunt for someone who makes maps to play with, make friends, go back to the game to only find out no-one else is playing with that friend you just met; because you also have find out exactly what time of day they are playing… “nobody don’t have time for that petty -Yoink-”.
plain and simple, halo 5 don’t allow us to have fun playing our own forge full game modes, they make it user unfriendly to get games set up on our own because they want to push “REQ” packs from 343 owned game modes imo. So all you forgers out there are just sitting there twiddling your fingers getting nowhere (hoping some will discover your map) while everyone else is playing war zone, Arena of some other game mode 343 is confining us to.
When Reach was in full operation you could login, and find some of the best community made forge maps added to the playlists. sadly in halo 5 you are limited to what 343 wants you to play.
I call myself the “inventor of mongoose race tracks” not really, but id had much fun with it in Halo Reach. We had full teams for race matches on created maps. The tracks were really fun because first team to the finish line wins. This game mode was mixed with many cool features; you could ram opponents over the cliff, jump off mongoose and use rockets, and find secret shortcuts to win the game. Also, it was very easy to find community made forge games such as slayer, ctf and others like “King of the hill” or “Grifball”. it seem i had more fun playing with the forge community than playing on official Halo playlist.
For you people that claim halo 5 has the best forge ever but yet struggle to get in operation, sounds pretty stupid imo.
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> what people don’t seem to realize is halo was then inventors of the “create a map” in games.
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> in the past halo has perfected forge and other games like Doom are actually copying from previous halo games (halo3 and reach). now we have 343 dismantling forge and it is pretty useless to offer helpful advice to a company that destroyed the best create-a-map game ever made with halo 5.
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> I think 343 is limiting forge possibilities because it would allow the community to create game modes and maps that could make in-house creations look inferior. 343 seems to want to govern how much fun we are allowed to have. so as good as your idea may sound, i don’t think we will ever see it.
I’m sorry to correct you but Doom had a map creator in 1993 (Might have been Doom 2 , but way before consoles either way). Console games were just starting to catch up when Bungie “invented” forge.
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> > in the past halo has perfected forge and other games like Doom are actually copying from previous halo games (halo3 and reach). now we have 343 dismantling forge and it is pretty useless to offer helpful advice to a company that destroyed the best create-a-map game ever made with halo 5.
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> > I think 343 is limiting forge possibilities because it would allow the community to create game modes and maps that could make in-house creations look inferior. 343 seems to want to govern how much fun we are allowed to have. so as good as your idea may sound, i don’t think we will ever see it.
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> I’m sorry to correct you but Doom had a map creator in 1993 (Might have been Doom 2 , but way before consoles either way). Console games were just starting to catch up when Bungie “invented” forge.
oh well, thanks for bringing it to attention, but my point is none of those map editors compared to the entertainment Halo reach, halo3 provided using forge. And halo5, while many is claiming it to be “best ever” is actually a step back imo. heck, Gtav has surpassed halo5 as for as providing operational entertainment using forge (map editor). but while halo Reach was in effect, no other game around attempted to top what they had going.
so yeah, although Doom may have something new to offer, copying from their playbook would actually be taking steps back, even worse applying those dated ideas to a “Future” Halo6.
Another thing id like to clarify. games with map editors are different from halo’s forge.
Map editors are simple, you basically go in to rearrange game props and edit game modes; while in Halo’s forge and in addition to map editing you can practically move mountains, you can take a blank template and make your own world. halo 5 seems to be slowly driving away from forge freedom and getting closer to a simple map editor imo. I see halo 6 as an even more dumbed down version of halo 5 and then people will be brainwashed in believing it is the new best just because it might be in 4k; while by then sharing will be completely obsolete because halo must “Evolve” away from it’s “old” ways lol.
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> Another thing id like to clarify. games with map editors are different from halo’s forge.
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> Map editors are simple, you basically go in to rearrange game props and edit game modes; while in Halo’s forge and in addition to map editing you can practically move mountains, you can take a blank template and make your own world. halo 5 seems to be slowly driving away from forge freedom and getting closer to a simple map editor imo. I see halo 6 as an even more dumbed down version of halo 5 and then people will be brainwashed in believing it is the new best just because it might be in 4k; while by then sharing will be completely obsolete because halo must “Evolve” away from it’s “old” ways lol.
Sorry man , but you obviously have no clue. Dooms map editor essentially let you do what it does now. You make Multi (PvP) or single player (campaign) maps. Change the aesthetic of the walls , place weapons , pretty much make whatever map you wanted to make.
In short Bungie got the Idea for forge from ID and Dooms’ map editor/creator. Only thing Bungie did differently was add sky boxes , as all of Dooms maps were inside , from what I can remember.
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> > You’re -Yoinking!- crazy dude, h5s forge is the best one yet, you can make maps move… And weather effects, and fusing things together, and you think they’re trying to Sabotage it? Just wow. If there’s anything h5s done great on, it’s forge for sure.
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> I have never had the opportunity to play a single forge game mode in halo5. why? they make us find our own friends to play this game mode. Im not going out to find friends to play a game mode. reach was a million time better in giving us forge freedom.
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> all you do in halo5 forge is twiddle your fingers exploring maps and never get the opportunity to play full games with them, so you are -Yoinking!- crazy.
Guess you wouldn’t like h3 either. We’ve always had to get a group to do customs, there’s never been matchmaking for it besides them adding community made maps to the main playlists. It’s really not that hard but I’m also in a community with endless friends so it’s relatively easy to get 16 man lobbies in minutes to play on forge made creations. I even have a lot of maps and game modes people have made, it’s really not that hard to obtain them although I’ll agree 343 could’ve made it more convenient. Add the343favorites, wyvern, and many other creators and you can get gametypes/maps pretty easily. If you’re not going out of your way to find friends for customs anyways then why is it an issue to you? Nothing will disprove that h5s forge isn’t the best, it is indeed the best, the issue is people not wanting to get on websites or friending random people to get said maps which like I said, 343 could’ve made more convenient.