What are you hoping for in Halo: Escalation?

Halo: Escalation’s first issue wont be out til December however going by the brief description alone I am even more excited for it than Initiation coming later this month.

What are you hoping to see and find out in Escalation? What are you afraid of happening?

We already know a few things from the description alone, we know that since the comic is set after Halo 4 that Thel Vadam survived the Sangheili Civil War(Thank god) and that peace talks between the Sangheili and Jiralhanae are at the very least being attempted.

But will we find out what happened to John after the events of Halo 4? All we know is that he was debriefed by the UNSC on all his activates after the Forward Unto Dawn split in half, what he then did after is unknown. Will it explain where he went and why? Could fan theory be right and he finds a way back the the Ark?

And what has the events on Requiem done to the already turbulent Post-War galaxy?

What are you guys hoping to see?

A more nuanced view of the Brutes - the fact that they are even willing to negotiate or engage in diplomacy is a good sign I think

When they mention threats to the meeting, I’m hoping it’s Avu Med 'Telcam and his forces, perhaps with a little forward warning by Osman.

I expect a lot of unsuccessful Jul 'Mdama chasing (since he, you know, has Halsey now and all, but you know they’re not gonna just end that in a book.)

> I expect a lot of unsuccessful Jul 'Mdama chasing (since he, you know, has Halsey now and all, but you know they’re not gonna just end that in a book.)

Not even a book but a comic.

> A more nuanced view of the Brutes - the fact that they are even willing to negotiate or engage in diplomacy is a good sign I think

Unfortunately, we know that it doesn’t succeed since in 2559, they’re still at war with each other. Unless this comic book actually takes place after that time, which I highly doubt.

But it is good to see them thinking about peace. But they could, of course, have their own reasons. They’re losing the fight against the Elites, and just want to give up because they’re just tired of fighting. Or (the reason I’m really thinking of) they know there’s Brutes on Earth in the city of Rio, and since they know the Arbiter is in pretty good contact with the Humans, is hoping to convince him to allow the Brutes go (maybe other Brutes aren’t allowed on Earth except for the ones that are there, thus causing some letting go issues?). Maybe I’m just over thinking it.

As for what I’m expecting in the comic book, I’m firstly expecting the most obvious, which is the Human/Elite/Brute peace treaty/conflict, and a Master Chief interview. I’m also expecting some Rio Covenant Asylum stuff. Maybe some Venezia stuff. And maybe some Jul/Promethean stuff, but I, for some reason, doubt it, because I feel like that stuff will be explained in either Spartan Ops Season 2/new book/next game, but I won’t complain if they do explain that stuff.

I don’t know, I just can’t really think of the stuff that’ll be happening in the comic book other than like two things (the Elite/Brute treaty that obviously fails, and a Master Chief interview).

> > I expect a lot of unsuccessful Jul 'Mdama chasing (since he, you know, has Halsey now and all, but you know they’re not gonna just end that in a book.)
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> Not even a book but a comic.

Well I feel like a -Yoink!-. I read the title as expect, now want to see…

What would I like to see? The Sanghieli finally making peace with humanity…I mean all of them. I would also like more foreshadowing (they foreshadowed the Didact in Thursday War, even though it wasn’t technically foreshadowing, it gave that same feel) of horrific and exciting things to come.

> > A more nuanced view of the Brutes - the fact that they are even willing to negotiate or engage in diplomacy is a good sign I think
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> Unfortunately, we know that it doesn’t succeed since in 2559, they’re still at war with each other. Unless this comic book actually takes place after that time, which I highly doubt.

You realize 2559 is only a year after Spartan Ops right?

> > > A more nuanced view of the Brutes - the fact that they are even willing to negotiate or engage in diplomacy is a good sign I think
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> > Unfortunately, we know that it doesn’t succeed since in 2559, they’re still at war with each other. Unless this comic book actually takes place after that time, which I highly doubt.
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> You realize 2559 is only a year after Spartan Ops right?

That and the Shipmaster’s account of the War was in past tense, which to me implies it was over with at the time of the story. This could be why he used that time to go on his journey of self discovery.

I want to see Halsey pupeteering the Storm Covenant (if it will make it in), I want to see the Arbiter be awesome and most of all I want to see major hints/set ups to Halo 5’s storyline.

  1. I hope the Arbiter doesn’t die

  2. If he does it better not be because of ONI.

Though I doubt he will. He’s survived nearly 6 years now, ONI could have offed him at any point along that time so he should be safe. I’m really happy the Brutes are returning, and in a friendly(ish) light no less. I’m glad they’re not monsters in this story as they have been in the past.

> 1) I hope the Arbiter doesn’t die
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> 2) If he does it better not be because of ONI.
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> Though I doubt he will. He’s survived nearly 6 years now, ONI could have offed him at any point along that time so he should be safe. I’m really happy the Brutes are returning, and in a friendly(ish) light no less. I’m glad they’re not monsters in this story as they have been in the past.

You do realize ONI wants the Arbiter alive? He is very useful to them with his pro-human ideology, especially sonce he is a renownwd leader of his people. ONI only want him preoccupied with his own problems (the Servants of Abiding Truth) while humanity rises to the top of the food chain.

As long as Thel doesn’t die by the end of it, I will be most pleased. If he does end up making peace with the this Jiralhanae faction I’ll be even more happy. I’m also looking forward to seeing the way Thel’s faction is presented, and how it sets up the tone for future media.

I hope the ones sabotaging the talks are either the Covenant remnant, the Servants of Abiding Truth (if they’re still around), or even by a different Jiralhanae faction. If ONI ends up being the ones sabotaging the peace talks I’d be disappointed, but I wouldn’t really be surprised. If Thel’s cause is belittled or shown as idiotic I’ll be pretty upset.

> That and the Shipmaster’s account of the War was in past tense, which to me implies it was over with at the time of the story. This could be why he used that time to go on his journey of self discovery.

Largely over, but not completely.

Halo: Evolutions - The Return, page 506.
Some Sangheili commanders continued to fight the many scattered remnants of the former Covenant wherever they could be found, but not all. After six long years of this scattered war, Sangheili power had begun to wane right along with their drive to fight.

By the context (he speaks of the Jiralhanae only sentences beforehand), there was still fighting between the Sangheili and the Covenant Loyalists even by 2559, though whether all the Jiralhanae were with the Loyalists is debatable. We only know that the scale of the fighting had decreased, but the extent of the decrease the Shipmaster doesn’t really state.
The Jiralhanae Thel wishes to create peace with could be an entirely different faction to the ones fought by Sangheili during 2559, judging by the internecine conflicts they’d found themselves in. I hope this story clears up a lot during this time-frame, Sangheili and Jiralhanae-wise.

> > 1) I hope the Arbiter doesn’t die
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> > 2) If he does it better not be because of ONI.
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> > Though I doubt he will. He’s survived nearly 6 years now, ONI could have offed him at any point along that time so he should be safe. I’m really happy the Brutes are returning, and in a friendly(ish) light no less. I’m glad they’re not monsters in this story as they have been in the past.
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> You do realize ONI wants the Arbiter alive? He is very useful to them with his pro-human ideology, especially sonce he is a renownwd leader of his people. ONI only want him preoccupied with his own problems (the Servants of Abiding Truth) while humanity rises to the top of the food chain.

ONI’s plans were to poison the Elites’ food supply, which I’d imagine would apply to any given Elite, indiscriminately. We may see him as an ally, but ONI might now.

> > > 1) I hope the Arbiter doesn’t die
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> > > 2) If he does it better not be because of ONI.
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> > > Though I doubt he will. He’s survived nearly 6 years now, ONI could have offed him at any point along that time so he should be safe. I’m really happy the Brutes are returning, and in a friendly(ish) light no less. I’m glad they’re not monsters in this story as they have been in the past.
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> > You do realize ONI wants the Arbiter alive? He is very useful to them with his pro-human ideology, especially sonce he is a renownwd leader of his people. ONI only want him preoccupied with his own problems (the Servants of Abiding Truth) while humanity rises to the top of the food chain.
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> ONI’s plans were to poison the Elites’ food supply, which I’d imagine would apply to any given Elite, indiscriminately. We may see him as an ally, but ONI might now.

That is not ONI’s plan, it is ONI’s failsafe. A plan B to initiate if all else fails, and the Sangheili are to rise up against humanity again. And ONI may not see the Arbiter as an ally, but they definitely see him as an advantage, because he convinces a lot of the Sangheili (if not most) that going to war with humanity is the wrong thing to do, and that they should hold a peace with humanity. Why would they look at him as an enemy? They don’t.

> What are you hoping to see and find out in Escalation?

What I’m looking forward to most in Escalation is the fact that it feels like something genuinely new to be honest, and not something that is merely passed off as being set post Halo 3. Spartan Ops, Spartan Assault and most of Halo 4 didn’t feel as if they were anything all that different from any other prequel game set in the Human-Covenant war. With a very few minor exceptions in their plots, they followed the same plot structure that the waning days of the Bungie era suffered from like with Reach, Bloodlines, Helljumper and Halo Wars and that was disappointing because that plot structure became so monotonous. Fighting Covenant over a Forerunner mystery, and humans save the day. The plot of Escalation actually sounds like something that deserves to be taken seriously as actually being post Halo 3 rather than just rehashing old concepts over and over again.

The Brutes and Elites willing to talk opens up many possibilities for future stories and ideas to be explored in the fiction, and I’m pleased that Halo 2’s story seems to be getting expanded upon rather than just being tossed in the gutter for a regression like Kilo 5 tried to do; adopting an analytical and problem solving mindset in exploring post war issues rather than being fatalistic about them and just rolling over and accepting it.

It’s possible that the Human-Covenant War and the Great Schism has broken the backs of the Brute’s and Elite’s warrior cultures, and that they are now willing to sit down and talk rather than draw swords. Given their prior disinclination towards each other something has to have changed in order for them to attempt this. Even though it’s just the Arbiter, he has to have some political backing and support even if not all Elites would agree with it. Same for the Brutes. The amount of destruction and death they caused in both conflicts, both to each other and the Humans, might have rotted away at their pride nationalistic mindset, turning their militaristic romanticism into a contempt for war. It’s sort of happened before in Human culture; WWI was sort of a wake up call for the world that it probably wasn’t so great anymore to conduct wars. The glorious pitched battle between two musket wielding armies and the booming of Falconets was replaced with soldiers dying in mud and filth and trenches as they convulsed in clouds of Mustard gas, and as they were mowed down by gun nests without even a chance of killing a single enemy. The Human war has maybe started to sink in, and perhaps a certain shame over their past behaviour makes them weary and willing to distance themselves from it all. I think I’d like to see something like that explored, as a cultural change is really what is needed for peace to be something plausible at all.

> What are you afraid of happening?

A league of Nations.

> And what has the events on Requiem done to the already turbulent Post-War galaxy?

I’m surprised Thel still has any power left after the Ur-Didact basically vindicated the Prophets. Evidently his Human alliance survived politically in some form, though that’s probably got more to do with the fact that the UNSC basically just have the Elites at gun point with threat of Infinity rather than there being any acceptance or understanding there, so I imagine that it might not have that much effect even if the Elites reverted to wish to continue their Jihad. Nevertheless I’d have improved trust in 343i’s writers if they foresaw the consequences of resurrecting a Forerunner enemy to Humanity, and subsequently planned to deal with those issues later on. Or maybe they have done something far more nuanced than just blind faith again and showed these sapient species’ potential for independent thought.

I’m sure ONI will be hard at work spreading news that Jul’s Covenant suffered a crushing defeat at Requiem. I’d imagine that now that Humanity can actually win fights it is even easier to spread those lies.

> > And what has the events on Requiem done to the already turbulent Post-War galaxy?
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> I’m surprised Thel still has any power left after the Ur-Didact basically vindicated the Prophets.

Not necessarily, only the most religious would believe that such as Jul’s Storm Covenant. As we see in the Kilo Five trilogy faith in seeing the forerunners as gods has diminished to incredibly low levels among the Sangheili. The Ur-Didact when awoken also didn’t do a whole lot to make him seem as a god to those who didn’t already view him as one. Remember the Prophets preached a Great Journey, that the Forerunners used the Halo Array to ascend into godhood, if that was the case why is a forerunner still alive? If the prophets had been vindicated then the Didact would ether not be a forerunner or not be a god.

My explanation for why Elites and Brutes are having peace talks is simple:

Thel, along with many other Elites, know that every species, UNSC and Covenant, are currently in fragile states. The Elites are having a civil war, and the Brutes are fighting amongst each other. This is a time to rebuild, and to form alliances between the many different races in order to prevent future wars.

We know there’s different sides for the Elites; some of them want peace with humans, others do not. The same could be said for the Brutes, perhaps there’s a faction of Jiralhanae that no longer wish to fight the Elites, and so they’re going to try to form a peace treaty with the Arbiter. I am very curious as to how this will play out.

For all we know, the Brute-dominated Covenant remnant might not even represent the majority of the Jiralhanae race, much like how the Storm Covenant doesn’t represent the Sangheili race.

One thing I don’t look forward to in this comic is Palmer. . . I can pretty much guarantee she’s going to be whining about ‘letting a hinge-head’ on board the Infinity, and we’ll see a similar routine to how she reacted to Halsley.