I haven’t read Primordium yet, but it’s ok, please just tell me this, if you have finished the book, please write what you believe to be the clues to Halo 4, spoilers and all is perfectly fine. Thank you, Peace!
- 343 is still alive out there and kicking (somehow) as a shipboard A.I. system, perhaps aboard the UNSC Infinity, a prototype technology warship.
- John and Cortana likely contain the “ancient spirits” of Riser and Vinnevar, respectively.
- The Didact and Librarian, while estranged, are likely to still reside in the Milky Way.
- Installation 07, the mysterious “rogue” Halo, may be a featured location.
> 1. 343 is still alive out there and kicking (somehow).
> 2. John and Cortana likely contain the “ancient spirits” of Riser and Vinnevar, respectively.
> 3. The Didact and Librarian, while estranged, are likely to still reside in the Milky Way.
> 4. Installation 07, the mysterious “rogue” Halo, may be a featured location.
Thanks bro, can you tell me what happens to the Timeless One, really want to know his story arc.
> 1. 343 is still alive out there and kicking (somehow) as a shipboard A.I. system, perhaps aboard the UNSC Infinity, a prototype technology warship.
> 2. John and Cortana likely contain the “ancient spirits” of Riser and Vinnevar, respectively.
> 3. The Didact and Librarian, while estranged, are likely to still reside in the Milky Way.
> 4. Installation 07, the mysterious “rogue” Halo, may be a featured location.
1.There’s no indication that the Infinity is involved and not a shred of evidence to support it.
2.False. There’s no indication that specifically John and Cortana contain any such Spirits.
3.There are implied to be alive (well technically only the Librarian is), with no indication of where they could be.
4.There’s no indication that Installation 07 will be used outside of the book at all.
You are jumping to conclusions that the book doesn’t support.
> ou are jumping to conclusions that the book doesn’t support.
As for uno, tres, and quattro, they’re reasonable guesses considering the amount of teasing we received, especially towards the end of the novel. I was simply adding my own views and spectulation as 343i didn’t mark specific Halo 4 teasers with post-it’s.
Concerning the second point, it was stated by Greg Bear (at Halo Fest I believe) that John-117 has a deep connection to one of the novel’s central characters. More than likely, he was either referring to his relationship with 343 Guilty Spark/Chakas or something more internal.
No need to get all confrontational.
In my opinion we may get to see the other Ark (although that’s a bit of a stretch)
I get the feeling that the place that John-117 ends up may be the place that GS was referring to0 when he highjacked the ONI ship (and crew, I have no idea what ship that would be mind.)
I think we’ll end up seeing some of the remaining Forerunners.
We may or may not see the flood return in some drastically different form.
It’s also possible that Installation-07 may show up, either as a location or a reference.
> In my opinion we may get to see the other Ark (although that’s a bit of a stretch)
The “Greater Ark” would be quite a sight to see, and while everything’s out in the open for us to stumble upon, I hope that we don’t go there just quite yet. Later on when some idiots activate the rings again perhaps.
I JUST finished it.
After what the primary character said about the Librarian at the very end…I remembered being VERY intrigued at the ending of Halo 3…a long lingering shot of a mountain in Africa while the credits rolled for several minutes.
I thought…isnt THAT where the Librarian’s garden was located? I had wondered if anyone had “escaped” in the game and looked around in Halo 3. Maybe that is where he knows “…where to find her.”
~AnonomissX~
1: most likely the new enemy will be the flood again, as forerunners believe in the mantle, although due to the Human-Forerunner war, forerunners may still hold a grudge against humans? but that depends if John 117 meets lifeworkers (good) or builders (bad)
2: 343GS most likely to come back but with a different objective to revive his old friends
3: maybe the bigger ark is the new location? although i do agree with Grizzlei the greater ark should be later on. i doubt installation 07 is the new location due to the book saying that it now contains mostly dead bodies of flood and forerunner and the face that it was sent to a unknown location farthest away from the ark may mean we won’t actually go there
4: John 117 is most likely carrying somes old spirit, whether it is Riser’s is unknown, he might also have a geas, as it was suggested in CEA terminal 1 that he had one,cortana will not have a old spirit, shes a AI… halsey on the other hand might but shes stuck on onyx.
5: librarian reappearance, most likely in some shield world or something as she was apparently " unable to go back to the ark" according to the terminals in halo 3. but considering she is still alive according to 343GS, the terminals in H3 may be wrong and she may actually be on a ark
> > 1. 343 is still alive out there and kicking (somehow) as a shipboard A.I. system, perhaps aboard the UNSC Infinity, a prototype technology warship.
> > 2. John and Cortana likely contain the “ancient spirits” of Riser and Vinnevar, respectively.
> > 3. The Didact and Librarian, while estranged, are likely to still reside in the Milky Way.
> > 4. Installation 07, the mysterious “rogue” Halo, may be a featured location.
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> 1.There’s no indication that the Infinity is involved and not a shred of evidence to support it.
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> 2.False. There’s no indication that specifically John and Cortana contain any such Spirits.
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> 3.There are implied to be alive (well technically only the Librarian is), with no indication of where they could be.
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> 4.There’s no indication that Installation 07 will be used outside of the book at all.
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> You are jumping to conclusions that the book doesn’t support.
I’m just going to point out we know the Infinity is in Halo 4 by way of the concept art for it, so it’s easy to guess Chakas took that ship.
> 4: John 117 is most likely carrying somes old spirit, whether it is Riser’s is unknown, he might also have a geas, as it was suggested in CEA terminal 1 that he had one,cortana will not have a old spirit, shes a AI… halsey on the other hand might but shes stuck on onyx.
Note that Dr. Halsey has since been recovered off of Onyx (now known as “Trevelyan”) and was exiled by Admiral Parangosky (Commander-in-Chief, Naval Intelligence) to an orbital station near Installation 03.
As for Cortana posessing a spirit or not, I factored in the disability that an Artificial Intelligence construct has in this regard. Though remember that she is a cloned and evolved version of her creator’s (Halsey) own brain. Considering the technological advancement the Forerunners had achieved by the end of Primordium and the will of the Librarian, i’m quite sure that she’d be able to give an A.I. a spirit carried down through even a biological lineage.
hey yall, one foreshadowing clue about possibility of john having a geas, is in the early books (I think the flood?) it mentioned he knew what buttons to touch in installation 04, by half guessing, half intuition. And i think elsewhere he just had a sense of what to do when interacting with the old tech > that sounds similar to how the geas directed characters in primordium.
as for where the librarian is, i’ll wait for the next book to tell. If she is going to be in the next game, i doubt it. But the discussion about the end of h3 and her possibly stuck in kilamanjaro makes me remember a different point from the book > that NONE were taken from erde tyrene and preserved. wasnt that mentioned in the book? or did I mis read that? and furthermore what happened when the original ring network fired? chronicles makes it seem life on earth was wiped and then restored (as with the covie planets)… but we havent experienced the firing in the forerunner books yet tho…
any insights to this guys?
lastly, to be back on topic, for halo 4 i think its more about whats happening with these oni/research groups and less about what we learn in glasslands. I think the glasslands covie civil war stuff is apart from whats gonna happen in H4. I think ONI and them are spending this post H3 time actively reclaiming ALL forerunner tech/tactics/knowledge/etc, and thus THAT is the reason for the interviewing of chakas’ monitor. And thus, in searching for and going to these locations they will also find the chief and cortana, whilst battling ancient folks.
> > 4: John 117 is most likely carrying somes old spirit, whether it is Riser’s is unknown, he might also have a geas, as it was suggested in CEA terminal 1 that he had one,cortana will not have a old spirit, shes a AI… halsey on the other hand might but shes stuck on onyx.
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> Note that Dr. Halsey has since been recovered off of Onyx (now known as “Trevelyan”) and was exiled by Admiral Parangosky (Commander-in-Chief, Naval Intelligence) to an orbital station near Installation 03.
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> As for Cortana posessing a spirit or not, I factored in the disability that an Artificial Intelligence construct has in this regard. Though remember that she is a cloned and evolved version of her creator’s (Halsey) own brain. Considering the technological advancement the Forerunners had achieved by the end of Primordium and the will of the Librarian, i’m quite sure that she’d be able to give an A.I. a spirit carried down through even a biological lineage.
However, both Halsey and John weren’t born on Earth. The book implied that geas were given by the Librarian by birth either directly or through the messaging beacon to give the geas. The real question is if they can be transferred and activated through normal gene transfer. Additionally, if Halsey were to contain any spirit it would likely be Yprin, not Vinnera (at least in my opinion).
> However, both Halsey and John weren’t born on Earth. The book implied that geas were given by the Librarian by birth either directly or through the messaging beacon to give the geas.
No they weren’t, but as seen with the Humans on Installation 07, colonization has no bearing on whether or not one could possess an ancient spirit or a geas. The only application that “only Terrans” could have ancient spirits had was at the end of the Human-Forerunner war when the Ecumene wanted to isolate those gifted with them.