What about the UNSC infinity?

What do you think happened to the infinity. As it is supposed to be the most powerful ship active in the as in halo 4 its MACs punch a hole in the didacts flagship whle the ODPs could not , but what do you think?

I hope it isn’t meekly destroyed for the sake of drama, as the Enterprise-D was (first example that came to mind). Considering everywhere else seems to have been taken over by AI, the Infinity is one of the safest places to be.

Still find it interesting that Roland was able to evade Cortana, considering she had access to the Domain, and seemed to have no issue contacting other AI.

I have no idea with what the pilot said in the opening cutscene saying we lost we lost everything maybe it was destroyed or taken out of commission since dates in same scene showed that there was a bit of a time gap from where we left off in 5

The Infinity is a completely awesome feat of engineering. But that kinda is what makes it such a problematic ship in the Halo universe. So long as the Infinity exists, humanity will survive. It’s got shields, super MACs, can carry its own escort fleet, can mint new Spartans and train them… the list goes on and on.

With the Infinity still on the game board, there’s a severe lack of desperation. Don’t get me wrong, things are very dire. But during the Covenant War, humanity didn’t have a lifeboat (which is why the Infinity was commissioned in the first place). Once Earth fell, humanity would eventually go extinct. Now even if every colony is destroyed, humanity can always escape and start over in this overpowered, perfectly designed lifeboat. I’d argue that humanity is facing a greater threat of extinction now from the Created, but it doesn’t feel that way if they have an ace in the hole like the Infinity.

So I don’t know how to do it, but I really hope the Infinity is destroyed in Infinite. Preferably in the opening cut scene or first mission. That would immediately raise the stakes.

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> The Infinity is a completely awesome feat of engineering. But that kinda is what makes it such a problematic ship in the Halo universe. So long as the Infinity exists, humanity will survive. It’s got shields, super MACs, can carry its own escort fleet, can mint new Spartans and train them… the list goes on and on.
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> With the Infinity still on the game board, there’s a severe lack of desperation. Don’t get me wrong, things are very dire. But during the Covenant War, humanity didn’t have a lifeboat (which is why the Infinity was commissioned in the first place). Once Earth fell, humanity would eventually go extinct. Now even if every colony is destroyed, humanity can always escape and start over in this overpowered, perfectly designed lifeboat. I’d argue that humanity is facing a greater threat of extinction now from the Created, but it doesn’t feel that way if they have an ace in the hole like the Infinity.
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> So I don’t know how to do it, but I really hope the Infinity is destroyed in Infinite. Preferably in the opening cut scene or first mission. That would immediately raise the stakes.

I think it’s likely the Infinity will be destroyed, especially considering Halo: Infinite is a sort of soft reboot of the franchise (like Halo 4 was). I understand why this might be a good idea, but it’s not necessary in my eyes. Rather than destroy the Infinity to pull things back in line, we could move things forward a little by making the enemy stronger: I’m not talking about Cortana’s Guardians. I already imagine they’re already quite overpowered, but that’s a segment of the story I hope we move on from fairly quickly. What I mean is the Covenant, Banished, Forerunner or whatever new factions we might face, I hope they get stronger. The Covenant always outmatched humanity on the technology side due to their reverse-engineering of Forerunner technology. These days, the UNSC reverse-engineer Forerunner tech seemingly better than the Covenant ever did. So how about a new enemy that has more advanced tech to give things a similar feeling to what we had before without any sort of regression by completely destroying what we have now?
I’m not sure how well I articulated that, but hopefully you get what I mean.

The USNC Infinity is probably done for. RIP. It had a good run at least.

They could make a separate Halo game where we play as Halo Infinity crew.Sarah Palmer being the main protagonist.

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> I hope it isn’t meekly destroyed for the sake of drama, as the Enterprise-D was (first example that came to mind). Considering everywhere else seems to have been taken over by AI, the Infinity is one of the safest places to be.
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> Still find it interesting that Roland was able to evade Cortana, considering she had access to the Domain, and seemed to have no issue contacting other AI.

Me neither. It would really blow if they did that (pun not intended).

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> What do you think happened to the infinity. As it is supposed to be the most powerful ship active in the as in halo 4 its MACs punch a hole in the didacts flagship whle the ODPs could not , but what do you think?

That ship has done nothing since Halo 4. Its just been more of a cinematic homebase. The only time we seen it in gameplay clearly, was on Halo4’s Shutdown mission. Its never really done anything.

I don’t want it gone at all. I jsut want it to do something.

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> The Infinity is a completely awesome feat of engineering. But that kinda is what makes it such a problematic ship in the Halo universe. So long as the Infinity exists, humanity will survive. It’s got shields, super MACs, can carry its own escort fleet, can mint new Spartans and train them… the list goes on and on.
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> With the Infinity still on the game board, there’s a severe lack of desperation. Don’t get me wrong, things are very dire. But during the Covenant War, humanity didn’t have a lifeboat (which is why the Infinity was commissioned in the first place). Once Earth fell, humanity would eventually go extinct. Now even if every colony is destroyed, humanity can always escape and start over in this overpowered, perfectly designed lifeboat. I’d argue that humanity is facing a greater threat of extinction now from the Created, but it doesn’t feel that way if they have an ace in the hole like the Infinity.
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> So I don’t know how to do it, but I really hope the Infinity is destroyed in Infinite. Preferably in the opening cut scene or first mission. That would immediately raise the stakes.

I have to disagree here; if the Infinity is the last bastion of hope for everyone, destroying it surely will raise the worry meter, but it would raise it too far. The Infinity’s gone, now what? What do we fight for? Survival? Without help, how are we to stop Cortana to take everything back? Are we to fall back to John-117’s impeccable luck?

Perhaps if it goes down taking a huge blow to help Chief, then sure. By all means, sacrifice it, blow it up, shoot it down, whatever if it flows with the plot well. But blowing it up in the opening cutscene or immediately I feel would actually ruin that sense of dread. It would feel too rushed. The ship’s existed for a total of several years in lore, several years in our real world, but seen roughly about maybe 12 whole hours of actual screen time of which it was a home base in Halo 4 that helped stop the Didact, it was a home base in Spartan Ops, and it was a cutscene space in all of Halo 5 for roughly 5 or so missions.

Yes, of course I know ships like the Savannah, Pillar of Autumn, and In Amber Clad saw much shorter reigns before they ultimately were sacrificed for the sake of plot. But that’s just it; they existed purely for a plot reason that was literally just ‘transport heroes here, crash/get shot down, blow up’. The Infinity exists for a completely different plot; and that is to serve as a last bastion stronghold for humanity. It wasn’t created purely to be sacrificed right away like all the other ships.

If it’s going to go down, I want it to go down fighting and because it was necessary, not because everyone wanted it to crash and burn because it was ‘too strong’. You know?

I think the fact that it is using Forerunner technology would mean that it is vulnerable. We don’t know how Forerunner technology connects with all of the supernatural feces that has gone on since Halo 4. Cortana could simply flip a switch ; (I know , a simplistic example , but you get the idea) ; and render the Infinity adrift in space. Or send it into slip space never to be heard from again.
Unfortunately , with all of the super \ quasi science involved with Forerunner technology we really don’t know what is possible or feasible , so 343 could literally write near any thing they want.

When the pilot says that they lost everything, I don’t think they meant the Infinity. He could have been just being over-exaggerating. What you have to remember is that many UNSC ships went dark after their AI left and were probably caught in the Earths gravitational pull.

Remember in the Discover Hope trailer where zeta halo got partly destroyed, maybe unsc infinity might have exploded which might have caused part of zeta to be destroyed.

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> > What do you think happened to the infinity. As it is supposed to be the most powerful ship active in the as in halo 4 its MACs punch a hole in the didacts flagship whle the ODPs could not , but what do you think?
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> That ship has done nothing since Halo 4. Its just been more of a cinematic homebase. The only time we seen it in gameplay clearly, was on Halo4’s Shutdown mission. Its never really done anything.
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> I don’t want it gone at all. I jsut want it to do something.

I was really disappointed with how they handled Lasky and the Infinity in Halo 5: Guardians.

I hope to see the Infinity in the foreseeable future of Halo. It’s the pinnacle if UNSC warships, and one if the last bastions of human forces against the Created. It has some cool potential story arcs that can revolve around it and can serve as the heart of mankind’s last warfleet.
With that said, Lasky seems like the type who would use the Infinity as a last ditch attempt to take out a guardian, and crash land it onto the Halo ring. Kinda a throwback to Halo CE, but please, oh please, dont make it a driving level later in the game. It’s to easy to fall prey to nostalgia, but itd be a easy cop out and would cheapen the story.

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> > > What do you think happened to the infinity. As it is supposed to be the most powerful ship active in the as in halo 4 its MACs punch a hole in the didacts flagship whle the ODPs could not , but what do you think?
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> > That ship has done nothing since Halo 4. Its just been more of a cinematic homebase. The only time we seen it in gameplay clearly, was on Halo4’s Shutdown mission. Its never really done anything.
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> I was really disappointed with how they handled Lasky and the Infinity in Halo 5: Guardians.

It didn’t feel like any character in Halo 5 Guardians was actually a character. Lasky in the Halo 4 campaign and Spartan Ops felt like an individual, an actual human being. No one in Halo 5 felt like that. No point looming over the past though. Halo: Infinite looks like it may have plenty of character.

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> Remember in the Discover Hope trailer where zeta halo got partly destroyed, maybe unsc infinity might have exploded which might have caused part of zeta to be destroyed.

If infinity self destructed then there wouldn’t be a Zeta halo. Remember when pillar of autumn’s reactor detonated? The entirety of installation 04 crumbled, fractured and fell apart. Infinity would have a much stronger reactor detonation most likely being able to swallow a whole halo in the blast. But if a smaller, more isolated blast were to happen, we’d get something like the broken section of Zeta halo.

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> > > > What do you think happened to the infinity. As it is supposed to be the most powerful ship active in the as in halo 4 its MACs punch a hole in the didacts flagship whle the ODPs could not , but what do you think?
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> It didn’t feel like any character in Halo 5 Guardians was actually a character. Lasky in the Halo 4 campaign and Spartan Ops felt like an individual, an actual human being. No one in Halo 5 felt like that. No point glooming about the past though. Halo: Infinite looks like it may have plenty of character.

I just hope they don’t scrap all the characters we love.

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> > > > > What do you think happened to the infinity. As it is supposed to be the most powerful ship active in the as in halo 4 its MACs punch a hole in the didacts flagship whle the ODPs could not , but what do you think?
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> > > I was really disappointed with how they handled Lasky and the Infinity in Halo 5: Guardians.
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> > It didn’t feel like any character in Halo 5 Guardians was actually a character. Lasky in the Halo 4 campaign and Spartan Ops felt like an individual, an actual human being. No one in Halo 5 felt like that. No point glooming about the past though. Halo: Infinite looks like it may have plenty of character.
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> I just hope they don’t scrap all the characters we love.

Halo 4 was set 4 1/2 years after the events of Halo 3. Every character from 3 was scrapped. Halo Infinite is set 3 years after the events of Halo 5. So it’s possible those characters could be scrapped. I’m hoping not, but I’m not holding my breath.

Losing the Infinity may be the singular best way to symbolize that Infinite is a step into a new era of the Halo Universe. I have a hard time thinking of something as ubiquitous and emblematic of the UNSC in the Reclaimer games (Halo 4 and 5) than the Infinity. As alluded to by a prior comment, the Infinity does represent Humanity’s effort to never again have their backs to the wall in the same way they did in the Covenant War.

Pulling away that security and sense of certainty from a narrative perspective creates the sort of chaos and motivation that could spark a sense of desperation and urgency that’s been missing in the chronology since Halo 3. Up through Halo: Reach, the overarching theme to the entire series was the do-or-die nature of every major action humanity made. Everything was a calculated gamble and nothing was guaranteed to succeed. It’s what made the victories in those games feel so vindicating and the defeats so dreadful and inevitable.

Infinity has been punching against that sense of consequence since it was introduced in Halo 4. The way to make it an important symbol in Halo lore is to give it a glorious last stand, so we can all realize how wonderful it was when the safety and opportunity it provided is lost. It’s the way to best serve the ship narratively, and it also paves the way for one of the best universe building options I can think of for the future of the series.

The real question is, does the Infinity deserve so much respect that Captain Lasky ought to go down with it? He’s the only Reclaimer Era character I’d terribly miss. Him going down with his ship would lend a tremendous amount of additional weight to losing the Infinity, though.