Well, That's It For Me

I meant to post this right after E3 but I’m just now getting around to it. I’m relatively new to the forums; I only got involved when the Halo 5 beta hit. I’ve kept my expectations low ever since then, and it’s paid off because now I can’t be so disappointed. It’s that the more I see of Halo 5, the worse it gets.

The beta was fine. A work in progress for sure, but fun to play. The balance wasn’t the greatest, but I liked being able to do some things I hadn’t done in Halo before. I don’t like that there’s sprint, but I can get over that. What was game breaking was the shielding system. By the third week of the beta, I was getting on to play just because I knew it wouldn’t be around anymore soon, so I’d get as much exposure as I could when I still could. But with that shield system in place, making the flow as choppy as it is, I couldn’t see myself putting in a lot of time to play Halo 5 online.

No worries. I don’t play multiplayer online nearly as much as I used to. For the last year or so, it’s been splitscreen with friends. Not to mention Halo’s story and lore are the best out of any video game ever! And while Halo 4 messed up the story more than I thought it possibly could, there were many ways it could be saved. For example, even though every mission, every line of dialogue, every shot fired, and every button pushed in Halo 4 felt utterly meaningless, stuff like the Ark Theory would fill the void. Halo’s story could still go places in 5.

Unfortunately, then came the announcement about splitscreen. That was the deal breaker. Halo 5 looked like a fun game, it just wasn’t the game I wanted it to be. Halo 4 was a good game by all means, it was just a bad Halo game because I hold Halo titles to such a higher standard that other games. But none of that matters when there is no splitscreen. No staying up late beating the Halo 5 campaign on legendary with my friend and a pack of beer. No more Halo nights playing local 4 player free for all on whatever crazy game type we decided to make. I’m a relatively new Halo player. The first game I played was Halo 3 but I really got into it when I finally got a 360 with Halo Reach. Throughout the next year, I went out and played every other Halo game. I fell in love. Bungie was able to notably improve the game with each new sequel. But I always considered splitscreen to be the soul of Halo. 343 has cut it out.

As for the campaign, after E3 I am no longer interested. The demo looked like a typical Call of Duty reveal. And I’m not just comparing Halo to CoD to make it look bad, no, I really felt like I was watching Activision show off their next CoD game. It felt the same to me, I don’t think I can explain it better than that. And the art style looks like anything but Halo. 343 has radically changed the UNSC, Covenant, and Forerunner themes. Compare it to Reach and everything looks worse. The enemies all look worse (except the Hunters maybe), Spartan armor looks worse, Forerunner and UNSC structures look worse, the weapons look worse (emphasis on the Rocket Launcher). Halo 5 may still have a good story, but not only don’t I think it’s capable of living up to the original trilogy, ODST, and Reach, at this point that isn’t enough.

At this point, if Halo 5 announces 4 player splitscreen, I will buy it. But this will most likely be my last post on the Halo forums. Halo will always be my favorite game, and I will continue to play it frequently with all my friends, so if you want to tell me to just go play the old Halo games instead, I already do. Those games were meant to have infinite replayability, they were made to last forever. Now Halo has lost its soul and it will probably never find it again. As far as I’m concerned, Master Chief and Cortana died at the end of Halo 3. This is KamikazePerro signing out

I hope you’ll watch from a distance at least like I will be.

Well there’s still splitscreen multiplayer. Plus I don’t know why everyone hates the art style so much. In my opinion it all looks like an evolution or downright the same in one way or another. The inside of the Infinty always reminded me of Cairo Station in some parts. Forerunner stuff looks the same to me, but maybe I’m the only one.

(Hopefully) Inb4 “good riddance” “don’t let the door hit you on the way out” type comments. Whatever your opinions are on Halo 5 or the progression of the series in general, can we not be happy about another person leaving the community?

I see all of these “oh well their just a minority who cares if they leave” and it just makes me sad. Small departures can add up in a hurry and I don’t think its a good thing to lose another voice in the community. We are all here because we care about Halo and we should be sad about seeing someone lose their passion for it. Feel free to have a differing opinion from the OP and others like them, just don’t be so pleased about losing another Halo fan.

Could we have more “I’m sorry you feel that way I wish you could find a reason to stay” instead “you won’t be missed”? Please?

We can be better than that.

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> (Hopefully) Inb4 “good riddance” “don’t let the door hit you on the way out” type comments. Whatever your opinions are on Halo 5 or the progression of the series in general, can we not be happy about another person leaving the community?
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> I see all of these “oh well their just a minority who cares if they leave” and it just makes me sad. Small departures can add up in a hurry and I don’t think its a good thing to lose another voice in the community. We are all here because we care about Halo and we should be sad about seeing someone lose their passion for it. Feel free to have a differing opinion from the OP and others like them, just don’t be so pleased about losing another Halo fan.
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> Could we have more “I’m sorry you feel that way I wish you could find a reason to stay” instead “you won’t be missed”? Please?
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> We can be better than that.

One could always argue that people like the series so much that seeing someone leave is a sign of betrayal. Also that they can’t connect to it. I know I can’t. From my point of view I can’t really fathom the mindset to leaving the series or anything you love for example. I’m of the point of view that if it is still giving one pleasure to do then it is a waste of time to get rid of that thing from your life.

Lol k bye

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> (Hopefully) Inb4 “good riddance” “don’t let the door hit you on the way out” type comments. Whatever your opinions are on Halo 5 or the progression of the series in general, can we not be happy about another person leaving the community?
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> I see all of these “oh well their just a minority who cares if they leave” and it just makes me sad. Small departures can add up in a hurry and I don’t think its a good thing to lose another voice in the community. We are all here because we care about Halo and we should be sad about seeing someone lose their passion for it. Feel free to have a differing opinion from the OP and others like them, just don’t be so pleased about losing another Halo fan.
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> Could we have more “I’m sorry you feel that way I wish you could find a reason to stay” instead “you won’t be missed”? Please?
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> We can be better than that.

Your sense of reasoning is upsettingly rare in these forums.

It’s your choice, man. If your willpower has run out, I can’t blame you for leaving

For me though, it’s gonna take a little more than Halo 5’s little blemishes here and there to make me leave (oh god I sound like I’m married to a video game…) Halo 5 still brought so many things back in addition to new things, even though it took a lot of things away. I survived Halo 4 didn’t I? I still have to see what Forge has in store, too…

But man… this may be the first Halo where I get tired of being a Spartan in Multiplayer… They’re such boy scouts now, lol.

Good riddance, don’t let the door hit you on the way out, etc. etc.

Can everyone please stop posting on all these “Good bye” or “I’m leaving Halo” threads? There really isn’t any discussion here to be had so it’s silly if we keep posting on these which keeps them at the top of the page. Just let them drift slowly down into the dark void of forgotten threads.

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> This is KamikazePerro signing out

All sounded really well, really dramatic until the ¨KamikazePerro signing out¨ I actually laughed That user name is hilarius

Sad to see another Halo fan go, but I can’t blame him/her. Without split screen, no more will there be any Halo nights with friends for hours on end. No more will I and my Wife be able to play campaign together as we love to do. Split screen Halo is the most fun I have in Halo. For me and many other fans, this is the nail in the coffin for Halo, Though I will probably get the game used just to see where the story goes.

Right now, I’m just too angry as a Halo fan to debate all this too civilly. Jimmies have seriously been rustled here. It really does feel like multiple slaps to the face what with all this cut content they’ve already announced. Things that have been fun traditions of Halo just… So mercilessly cut. 4-player splitscreen cut. Slap to the face of the Custom Games community. Playable Elites cut. Boom, another slap to the face of the Elite community. Firefight just denied completely… As if any of this wasn’t important at all for, what… Warzone? Is that what this game is all gonna be about? Campaign and Warzone? A long but solo story mode and one ****ing multiplayer mode that’s gated behind Gold?

sigh I know I’m overreacting but… C’MON. This is ridiculous. Just ridiculous!

Halo used to smash its competition around with a steel bat made of sheer quality, depth, and variety. The series used to be a pioneer of video games. Always doing what we thought could never ever be done. And now it seems that’s all gone… And it just makes me so sad and angry to see all that potential and awesome universe just come to a miserable end.

Good bye OP, you’re not the first and you won’t be the last to leave.

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> As for the campaign, after E3 I am no longer interested. The demo looked like a typical Call of Duty reveal. And I’m not just comparing Halo to CoD to make it look bad, no, I really felt like I was watching Activision show off their next CoD game. It felt the same to me, I don’t think I can explain it better than that. And the art style looks like anything but Halo. 343 has radically changed the UNSC, Covenant, and Forerunner themes. Compare it to Reach and everything looks worse. The enemies all look worse (except the Hunters maybe), Spartan armor looks worse, Forerunner and UNSC structures look worse, the weapons look worse (emphasis on the Rocket Launcher). Halo 5 may still have a good story, but not only don’t I think it’s capable of living up to the original trilogy, ODST, and Reach, at this point that isn’t enough.

The demo was a part of a mission that was recreated to show off the new features, that’s why it was so scripted and linear. The actual campaign will encourage exploration. Apparently there’s supposed to be lots of Easter Eggs.

As for the art style, I couldn’t disagree with you more. While Battlefield and COD compete to look the most realistic, Halo focuses more on looking cartoony. None of the games look especially realistic, because they don’t try to, and Halo 5 is no exception. In my opinion, it fits in with Halo’s art style quite well actually.

I love the new look of the armor, it doesn’t look like it came out of a comic-book like Halo 4’s did, it looks sleek and productive. Except for the Breaker Armor, whoever’s wearing that one could join Daft Punk. The Covenant looked very different in Halo 4, but 343 is putting in some Elites and Grunts from the older games. As for the Forerunners, we haven’t really seen too much on Forerunner structures, however the Forerunner weaponry looks very cool (especially the Smart-Link) and so does the new Promethean Soldier.

The best part of ODST was Firefight and the best part of Reach was the Custom Games. The stories in both games were okay, just not as good as the main games. Reach pretty much ruined competitive Halo multiplayer. The campaign in Halo 5 looks very promising. The concept of playing as different main characters is the same as Halo 2, and that’s nothing but a good thing, especially since now we can play as 8 characters in total. The story also looks pretty good too. If you’ve listened to all the Hunt the Truth episodes, you know what I’m talking about.

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> Sad to see another Halo fan go, but I can’t blame him/her. Without split screen, no more will there be any Halo nights with friends for hours on end. No more will I and my Wife be able to play campaign together as we love to do. Split screen Halo is the most fun I have in Halo. For me and many other fans, this is the nail in the coffin for Halo, Though I will probably get the game used just to see where the story goes.

-Yoink!- 343 even SW Battlefront has couch co-op and that game looks miles better than halo 5. Sure it’ll run at 30 but at least we get the option to do that.

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> As for the campaign, after E3 I am no longer interested. The demo looked like a typical Call of Duty reveal. And I’m not just comparing Halo to CoD to make it look bad, no, I really felt like I was watching Activision show off their next CoD game. It felt the same to me, I don’t think I can explain it better than that. And the art style looks like anything but Halo. 343 has radically changed the UNSC, Covenant, and Forerunner themes. Compare it to Reach and everything looks worse.

That is what has been bothering me the most since the beta, art style (Artist here, it matters to me, a lot) is shiny, no definition, texture, depth, all plastic. It seems the light guy is running the show and putting glare on EVERYTHING! “If it exists, it must be reflective!”
The campaign demo looked like anything but Halo, didn’t even sound like Halo (music wise).
Halo may be a new game but completely lost its charm, if it wasn’t for Buck’s face, could have been watching any FPS out there, guess they didn’t find a way to integrate the old with the new in this new shiny version. As they showed this intro to Locke’s campaign, I couldn’t help the cringe factor looking at the overly glossed & fluffy Spartans (yes, I think they’re fluffy, armor looks round, like Michelin man) running into Michael Bay’s style explosions at the sound of military commands that could apply to any war game.
I’ll get Halo, if only for the Chief and for the memories but this is another franchise that’s gone mainstream and lost its trademark for originality.
Somehow, I wish it wasn’t called Halo, then maybe it would be more palatable. Another new shooter, freedom to follow the selling trends and no need to incorporate anything from the past.

Not to be a -Yoink!-, but seriously, how many more of these “I’m leaving Halo” threads are we going to see? Who the hell cares… If you are going to leave the series, then just do it quietly instead of wasting our time.

Same goes for all the people here still trying to convince us that Halo is ruined. If you don’t like the game anymore, then what are you doing on these forums?

> 2533274819446242;4:
> (Hopefully) Inb4 “good riddance” “don’t let the door hit you on the way out” type comments. Whatever your opinions are on Halo 5 or the progression of the series in general, can we not be happy about another person leaving the community?
>
> I see all of these “oh well their just a minority who cares if they leave” and it just makes me sad. Small departures can add up in a hurry and I don’t think its a good thing to lose another voice in the community. We are all here because we care about Halo and we should be sad about seeing someone lose their passion for it. Feel free to have a differing opinion from the OP and others like them, just don’t be so pleased about losing another Halo fan.
>
> Could we have more “I’m sorry you feel that way I wish you could find a reason to stay” instead “you won’t be missed”? Please?
>
> We can be better than that.

This. I wish more people in the community would actually try to empathize with those who are dissatisfied rather than insult them and mock them.

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> Lol k bye

What a true Halo fan. You make me proud of this fanbase.

To OP: I’m sad to see you go. Hopefully Halo can regain Elites and split-screen and we can see you again, but until then, I hope you find something else nice to enjoy.

I’m sorry you feel this way and happy you got into Halo even if it was when Halo 3 came out. To me the campaign doesn’t look like Call of Duty. See I almost gave up on Halo because of Reach. I didn’t really like anything about it. Not even really the story and that’s my favorite Halo novel. But I stayed and bought Halo 4 expecting it to be like Halo CE through Halo 3. I was wrong didn’t like the multiplayer but loved the campaign, finally after playing it a lot I enjoyed the multiplayer. I know what I am expecting in Halo 5 unlike Halo 4, I can’t wait to play it day one. Its gonna be awesome.