Well my friends, I'm done with this game's aiming

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> > > > 23 hours of arena, Onyx 1614 FFA rank, 149 games, 2,174 kills, 53.7% accuracy, and 6.3 FFA kda later…I’m done with this game.
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> > > > I keep hoping this is just a bad dream and that I’ll wake up from it, but it’s real. The aiming is garbage. I still have not gotten used to it. It’s just awful. I know I don’t need to go into detail about how bad these aiming mechanics are, because so many other people have expressed what’s wrong, but it’s nothing like any Halo before it. Why change what was NEVER wrong with Halo? Every game in MCC feels amazing, as far as aiming is concerned. Going back and forth between different Halo games on there is effortless and I’m always confident that my shot will be on. This game is just wonky as hell. I can’t even begin to express my disappointment with the aiming mechanics. I really hope they listen to us and make this game feel like EVERY game before it. And not just a little deadzone tweaking or accel tweaking…it needs a 100% revert back to how we all know Halo is supposed to feel. It’s just not a fun game. I gave it a legitimate chance after 23 hours of play, but it’s still bad. There’s just no getting used to the aiming in this game. So much potential…damn…
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> > > Sounds like you’re bitter that you can’t seem to get used to a new feature. That’s on you, not 343. If you don’t like the game, don’t play it. I prefer the community be positive and offer constructive criticism, not just keep saying things are “terrible” and offer no alternative. And no, the alternative is not to just make the gameplay like old Halo games. You want that gameplay, go play MCC. It’s starting to really disgust me how poorly you people are treating 343 over this game they poured their hearts and souls into.
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> > It’s pretty obvious that if the aiming reverts back to the aiming of the last 5 games it would be immeasurably better. 343 CLEARLY didn’t pour their heart or soul into this game. It’s obvious to me they’re trying to recoup money from the millions of people that stopped playing the Halo series with stupid RNG mechanics and “pro” aiming mechanics that make the very basis of this shooting game unwieldy.
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> Yes, they CLEARLY didn’t pour their hearts and souls into a game that has beautiful graphics, fluid movement, fun gunplay, varied environments, great vehicle combat, tons of customization, a boat load of collectibles, FREE DLC, a bunch of multiplayer modes, intuitive forge, spectator mode, and theater mode. Nope. Some people don’t agree with the aiming, so 343 clearly didn’t put love into this game.

Eh the game is very mediocre. There’s nothing that puts it above any of the other games on the market.

Graphics? Slightly better than halo 4. Not that next gen leap would expect after 3 years. Many other games have far better graphics.

Gameplay? It’s alright. Plays like every other fps. No real distinctive features. Lost its halo feel. It promotes camping, there’s less 1v1 battles due to shorter radar distance and quicker ttk. It’s more about who can come up behind the person first than head to head shooting ability. There’s less emphasis on team work which has been a staple of halo gameplay. Feels a lot more cod like where it’s perfectly fine to go run off on your own. Also just like cod, there’s little emphasis on map control which has always been one of the most important parts of halo multiplayer. The arena maps no longer have strong control points that you should hold down with your team such as sniper towers on lockout or the pit, or top Ivory tower/damnation. It’s more beneficial to keep moving around the map to get behind your opponent.

The gameplay is also more repetitive and less engaging than previous games. Due to the widening of the maps due to sprint, thrusters, clamber, and shorter ttk, you spend more time running around the map to find enemies than shooting compared to the previous games. Also forcing you to use clamber to escalate your position instead of providing ramps or lifts slows down gameplay. It’s basically like reverting to ladders from halo ce.

The rest of the stuff you mentioned hasn’t been released yet so I’ll leave that as speculation.

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> > I don’t have a problem with it. Yeah it’s tougher than before but what’s wrong with that?
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> It’s completely unnecessary. Why make it tougher to use a core mechanic of a first person shooter? Snapping on to targets is much more difficult with this multi sensitivity dead zone nonsense!

That is a good thing! No one should “snap” on a target, you should have to actually aim.

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> > I don’t have a problem with it. Yeah it’s tougher than before but what’s wrong with that?
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> It’s completely unnecessary. Why make it tougher to use a core mechanic of a first person shooter? Snapping on to targets is much more difficult with this multi sensitivity dead zone nonsense!

You might as well get used to the aiming, It’s different. That’s all I have to say.

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> It’s actually quite astonishing how many people don’t get why people are complaining about the aiming in this game at this point and keep thinking people are complaining about the lack of aim assist.

its actually quite astonishing that people think the game is bad because of controller and setting issues.

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> 23 hours of arena, Onyx 1614 FFA rank, 149 games, 2,174 kills, 53.7% accuracy, and 6.3 FFA kda later…I’m done with this game.
> I keep hoping this is just a bad dream and that I’ll wake up from it, but it’s real. The aiming is garbage. I still have not gotten used to it. It’s just awful. I know I don’t need to go into detail about how bad these aiming mechanics are, because so many other people have expressed what’s wrong, but it’s nothing like any Halo before it. Why change what was NEVER wrong with Halo? Every game in MCC feels amazing, as far as aiming is concerned. Going back and forth between different Halo games on there is effortless and I’m always confident that my shot will be on. This game is just wonky as hell. I can’t even begin to express my disappointment with the aiming mechanics. I really hope they listen to us and make this game feel like EVERY game before it. And not just a little deadzone tweaking or accel tweaking…it needs a 100% revert back to how we all know Halo is supposed to feel. It’s just not a fun game. I gave it a legitimate chance after 23 hours of play, but it’s still bad. There’s just no getting used to the aiming in this game. So much potential…damn…

If you are really done with it, then be done with it, don’t clog up the forums with useless posts of you complaining.

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I really haven’t noticed anything but I usually fire from the hip so I don’t think I would have noticed what you are talking about.

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> You might as well get used to the aiming, It’s different. That’s all I have to say.

You might as well get used to reading in the dark. It’s a stupid thing to get used to.

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I love it.

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> > 23 hours of arena, Onyx 1614 FFA rank, 149 games, 2,174 kills, 53.7% accuracy, and 6.3 FFA kda later…I’m done with this game.
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> > I keep hoping this is just a bad dream and that I’ll wake up from it, but it’s real. The aiming is garbage. I still have not gotten used to it. It’s just awful. I know I don’t need to go into detail about how bad these aiming mechanics are, because so many other people have expressed what’s wrong, but it’s nothing like any Halo before it. Why change what was NEVER wrong with Halo? Every game in MCC feels amazing, as far as aiming is concerned. Going back and forth between different Halo games on there is effortless and I’m always confident that my shot will be on. This game is just wonky as hell. I can’t even begin to express my disappointment with the aiming mechanics. I really hope they listen to us and make this game feel like EVERY game before it. And not just a little deadzone tweaking or accel tweaking…it needs a 100% revert back to how we all know Halo is supposed to feel. It’s just not a fun game. I gave it a legitimate chance after 23 hours of play, but it’s still bad. There’s just no getting used to the aiming in this game. So much potential…damn…
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> If you are really done with it, then be done with, don’t clog up the forums with useless posts.

Could you ever think that maybe he’s done with it just until the aiming is fixed? So how does it get fixed? By raising a awareness to 343 that the new aiming mechanic is worse than how it was in the beta and previous games and is undesired. To do that, you need to post on here. Think about it.

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> > Yes, they CLEARLY didn’t pour their hearts and souls into a game that has beautiful graphics, fluid movement, fun gunplay, varied environments, great vehicle combat, tons of customization, a boat load of collectibles, FREE DLC, a bunch of multiplayer modes, intuitive forge, spectator mode, and theater mode. Nope. Some people don’t agree with the aiming, so 343 clearly didn’t put love into this game.
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> fluid movement…except in the aiming
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> fun gun play…except in the aiming
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> varied environments…yes in multiplayer all 7 maps are so “varied”
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> vehicle combat…if you’ve unlocked them in the cards
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> customization…from a random number generator if you’re lucky you might get the ones you want out of thousands of items
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> collectibles…yes that’s what I wanted from Halo…collectibles
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> FREE DLC…it’s only free so they can justify this stupid P2W model that they’re guessing will be more profitable than maps people wouldn’t buy anyway
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> Intuitive forge? You’ve played it then?
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> Spectator mode and theater mode? Bungie modernized those for consoles do not praise them for copying it
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> This game is a cheap attempt to milk the franchise.

You can’t please everyone, and sadly a lot of people on these forums feel incredibly entitled. It’s disgusting, really. 343 changed Halo, tried to push it forward, and they are being crucified for it. The fact that you just took all of my points and argued against them (especially the non-argument about the collectibles) just shows your false sense of entitlement. I find it hard to believe you would disagree with every single one of those points if this were a new IP.

It’s their game. Not yours. I don’t know why you’re spending your time on the forums if you dislike this game so much. Do you spend all your time hanging out with people you hate, as well? Do you eat food you don’t like just so you can tell people how gross it is? You don’t like it? Don’t play it. Go play Halo 2 if you want to enjoy a Halo game.

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> > > 23 hours of arena, Onyx 1614 FFA rank, 149 games, 2,174 kills, 53.7% accuracy, and 6.3 FFA kda later…I’m done with this game.
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> > > I keep hoping this is just a bad dream and that I’ll wake up from it, but it’s real. The aiming is garbage. I still have not gotten used to it. It’s just awful. I know I don’t need to go into detail about how bad these aiming mechanics are, because so many other people have expressed what’s wrong, but it’s nothing like any Halo before it. Why change what was NEVER wrong with Halo? Every game in MCC feels amazing, as far as aiming is concerned. Going back and forth between different Halo games on there is effortless and I’m always confident that my shot will be on. This game is just wonky as hell. I can’t even begin to express my disappointment with the aiming mechanics. I really hope they listen to us and make this game feel like EVERY game before it. And not just a little deadzone tweaking or accel tweaking…it needs a 100% revert back to how we all know Halo is supposed to feel. It’s just not a fun game. I gave it a legitimate chance after 23 hours of play, but it’s still bad. There’s just no getting used to the aiming in this game. So much potential…damn…
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> > If you are really done with it, then be done with, don’t clog up the forums with useless posts.
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> Could you ever think that maybe he’s done with it just until the aiming is fixed? So how does it get fixed? By raising a awareness to 343 that the new aiming mechanic is worse than how it was in the beta and previous games and is undesired. To do that, you need to post on here. Think about it.

any issue with aiming is not an issue with the gameplay mechanics, but controller issues and people not setting up their settings properly when playing. They already know and are trying to fix it, but people need to stop saying this game is -Yoink- because of controller glitches. Everyone I’ve talked to hasn’t said anything about a problem with aiming, people just like to complain on the forums when every game isn’t exactly like Halo 2. They don’t know how to adjust to a new game and cling to the past.

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you can set your sensitivity, I was 5 on halo 4 and Im on 6, aiming is kinda slow, but if you feel like your aiming is out of control you could put it lower,

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> > It’s actually quite astonishing how many people don’t get why people are complaining about the aiming in this game at this point and keep thinking people are complaining about the lack of aim assist.
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> its actually quite astonishing that people think the game is bad because of controller and setting issues.

Thank you! Scion is yet another gamer who gets off by complaining. It’s as simple as that. He is the pretentious foodie who gives a restaurant a bad review because the silverware wasn’t correctly arranged and his water wasn’t promptly refilled.

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You just need to get better. Try playing more and crying less.

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> You just need to get better. Try playing more and crying less.

I don’t think you can really call anyone out to “get better”.

Regardless- Go play Halo 1-3 on 3-10 sens.

Then do the same in Halo 5. It’s a terrible realization of how bad the current aiming issue is. The game plays clunky compared to past games.

CE from 2001 is smoother than Halo 5. That alone is hilarious.

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i dont know if its this feature or not but i will say that im having a hell of a lot more of a difficult time aiming in this game compared to the beta where incould get consistant perfect kills. ive gotten maybe 3 in about 25 games with halo 5

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> > > Yes, they CLEARLY didn’t pour their hearts and souls into a game that has beautiful graphics, fluid movement, fun gunplay, varied environments, great vehicle combat, tons of customization, a boat load of collectibles, FREE DLC, a bunch of multiplayer modes, intuitive forge, spectator mode, and theater mode. Nope. Some people don’t agree with the aiming, so 343 clearly didn’t put love into this game.
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> > fluid movement…except in the aiming
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> > fun gun play…except in the aiming
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> > varied environments…yes in multiplayer all 7 maps are so “varied”
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> > vehicle combat…if you’ve unlocked them in the cards
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> > customization…from a random number generator if you’re lucky you might get the ones you want out of thousands of items
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> > collectibles…yes that’s what I wanted from Halo…collectibles
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> > FREE DLC…it’s only free so they can justify this stupid P2W model that they’re guessing will be more profitable than maps people wouldn’t buy anyway
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> > Intuitive forge? You’ve played it then?
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> > Spectator mode and theater mode? Bungie modernized those for consoles do not praise them for copying it
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> > This game is a cheap attempt to milk the franchise.
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> You can’t please everyone, and sadly a lot of people on these forums feel incredibly entitled. It’s disgusting, really. 343 changed Halo, tried to push it forward, and they are being crucified for it. The fact that you just took all of my points and argued against them (especially the non-argument about the collectibles) just shows your false sense of entitlement. I find it hard to believe you would disagree with every single one of those points if this were a new IP.
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> It’s their game. Not yours. I don’t know why you’re spending your time on the forums if you dislike this game so much. Do you spend all your time hanging out with people you hate, as well? Do you eat food you don’t like just so you can tell people how gross it is? You don’t like it? Don’t play it. Go play Halo 2 if you want to enjoy a Halo game.

I used to like Halo. Why is that so hard for you to grasp? It was just one game ago I thought they were doing a great job. You’re awfully myopic on this topic.

It’s not THEIR game. I’ve been playing halo for 14 years. I’m entitled to a decent story and a decent multiplayer. Regardless of what you think. People like you throw that term around “entitled” like it’s a badge of shame. Sometimes it is. Sometimes that’s EXACTLY what a person is…entitled.

They haven’t pushed it forward they stripped it bare. There are only 6 game types. There are only 3 maps in warzone and 8 maps outside of that (I’m counting breakout maps as one since they’re just building blocks that get moved around). That’s the least amount of content in a multiplayer release for Halo EVER.

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> > > > 23 hours of arena, Onyx 1614 FFA rank, 149 games, 2,174 kills, 53.7% accuracy, and 6.3 FFA kda later…I’m done with this game.
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> > > > I keep hoping this is just a bad dream and that I’ll wake up from it, but it’s real. The aiming is garbage. I still have not gotten used to it. It’s just awful. I know I don’t need to go into detail about how bad these aiming mechanics are, because so many other people have expressed what’s wrong, but it’s nothing like any Halo before it. Why change what was NEVER wrong with Halo? Every game in MCC feels amazing, as far as aiming is concerned. Going back and forth between different Halo games on there is effortless and I’m always confident that my shot will be on. This game is just wonky as hell. I can’t even begin to express my disappointment with the aiming mechanics. I really hope they listen to us and make this game feel like EVERY game before it. And not just a little deadzone tweaking or accel tweaking…it needs a 100% revert back to how we all know Halo is supposed to feel. It’s just not a fun game. I gave it a legitimate chance after 23 hours of play, but it’s still bad. There’s just no getting used to the aiming in this game. So much potential…damn…
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> > > If you are really done with it, then be done with, don’t clog up the forums with useless posts.
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> > Could you ever think that maybe he’s done with it just until the aiming is fixed? So how does it get fixed? By raising a awareness to 343 that the new aiming mechanic is worse than how it was in the beta and previous games and is undesired. To do that, you need to post on here. Think about it.
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> any issue with aiming is not an issue with the gameplay mechanics, but controller issues and people not setting up their settings properly when playing. They already know and are trying to fix it, but people need to stop saying this game is -Yoink- because of controller glitches. Everyone I’ve talked to hasn’t said anything about a problem with aiming, people just like to complain on the forums when every game isn’t exactly like Halo 2. They don’t know how to adjust to a new game and cling to the past.

If you don’t even know what people are complaining about then why are you even commenting on it?

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The aiming with the BR is odd and a lil inconsistent but ill get used to that and sometimes im super smooth butter headshots then all of a sudden i feel like i got struk in the head with a hammer and my aim is over sensitive. Not sure what it is. If its me or the game but i still love this game so idc.

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> > You just need to get better. Try playing more and crying less.
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> Regardless- Go play Halo 1-3 on 3-10 sens.
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> Then do the same in Halo 5. It’s a terrible realization of how bad the current aiming issue is. The game plays clunky compared to past games.
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> CE from 2001 is smoother than Halo 5. That alone is hilarious.

People think if they call others out on just being bad at the game they can feel better about themselves not complaining about it because they must be able to get used to it. But that’s been obviously not true for most of the people whose stats I’ve been looking at.