Well my friends, I'm done with this game's aiming

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PREACH IT!!!

I’m with you guys… Tuesday is my last day. Not sure which Tuesday yet, but it will be a Tuesday.

lol, the aiming is better now. requires much more skill

I am a halo player since ce and I played about 2000 hours per halo games. But this aiming system is something that didn’t needed to be modified, I can still play good and win almost all my 1v1 but its frustrating that I have to play on 5-6 sensitivity because I can’t play on 10 which I use to play in every halo game. This is a major issue for me because the gameplay while on 10 is very different than the gameplay on 5, Now I have to minimize close encounter because I cant turn fast enough at close range. Using the sword on 5 sensitivity is horrible and the radar is so short that make it ever worst when someone is shooting me in the back.

K.

try playing swat and get better at that. I think that could help

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> > > > If they don’t fix it by Tuesday then I’m done with this game. Aiming makes an already crappy Halo game even crappier.
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> > > Woah don’t hold a gun to the head of 343i. What makes you think you’re so important for 343i to give a -Yoink-? Seriously, I hope by Tuesday all you spoilt kids leave Halo and these forums.
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> > Because I’m not the only person that thinks the aiming is atrocious. And I pick Tuesday because it’s the usual release/patch/update day. If they don’t fix it then I’m not playing a broken game any further. That’s all I’m saying.
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> So you’re just going to give up because it is a tad more challenging? Give it more time before you throw it was so quickly!

To be perfectly honest I hate the new aiming but i love halo so i stand and say i can not and will not be beaten by a stupid controller i will master the new aiming if it kills me!!!

I’ve had no issues. Feels fine to me.

Aiming seems fine to me, don’t get what all the fuss is about

I agree that the aim is a bit -Yoinked!-. There is a difference between innovation and something that is just worse. It would be like trying to try hard a pc game like counterstrike with mouse acceleration. Something no pro pc gamer has done ever to my knowledge. That’s what it reminds me of. I’ve been trying other sensitivities and I think going higher than 3 makes it harder and easier in a weird way. It feels faster thus a bit harder to stay on target, but it feels more consistent, maybe. I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one who is struggling with this. I think as long as there is this large an amount of acceleration, it will be extremely difficult or even impossible to get that perfect muscle memory developed to land those perfects almost every time.

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> > > > > If they don’t fix it by Tuesday then I’m done with this game. Aiming makes an already crappy Halo game even crappier.
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> > > > Woah don’t hold a gun to the head of 343i. What makes you think you’re so important for 343i to give a -Yoink-? Seriously, I hope by Tuesday all you spoilt kids leave Halo and these forums.
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> > > Because I’m not the only person that thinks the aiming is atrocious. And I pick Tuesday because it’s the usual release/patch/update day. If they don’t fix it then I’m not playing a broken game any further. That’s all I’m saying.
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> To be perfectly honest I hate the new aiming but i love halo so i stand and say i can not and will not be beaten by a stupid controller i will master the new aiming if it kills me!!!

Much respect. You are the opposite of a whiner.
Take note, kids! Rise to the challenge!

I find it hilarious how upset people are by the lack of aim assist. It takes maybe a week to get used to. I love it.

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> lol, the aiming is better now. requires much more skill

Yes, but its the wrong kind of skill being applied for the wrong reasons. Its not the natural intuitive skill of lining up a quality shot, rather its the skill of being able to overcome a poor aiming mechanic. Its like saying that CS:GO for the console is great because it took so much skill to figure out how to aim. When in fact CS:GO had a horrible aiming mechanic that ruined the game.

People who don’t like the aiming mechanics are not suggesting that we lower the skill gap of aiming. We just want an aiming mechanic that produces an intuitive and predictable input and output relationship. There are more issues then this list, but these are my main concerns.

  • Across the board sensitivity drop when your reticle approaches a target creates ample under aim. The reticle becomes heavy, sluggish, and unresponsive to player input.
  • The acceleration jump at about 80% joystick deflection creates an unpredictable lurch in reticle speed, bypassing all intermediary turning speeds.
  • Time-based acceleration delay makes quickly pegging the joystick at 100% deflection generate a delay in producing results, making input and output inconsistent.
  • The 10 sensitivity is painfully slow compared to previous Halos

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> I am a halo player since ce and I played about 2000 hours per halo games. But this aiming system is something that didn’t needed to be modified, I can still play good and win almost all my 1v1 but its frustrating that I have to play on 5-6 sensitivity because I can’t play on 10 which I use to play in every halo game. This is a major issue for me because the gameplay while on 10 is very different than the gameplay on 5, Now I have to minimize close encounter because I cant turn fast enough at close range. Using the sword on 5 sensitivity is horrible and the radar is so short that make it ever worst when someone is shooting me in the back.

Exactly. It seems that those of us that notice the problem, have been long time Halo vets. It’s a serious problem. The casuals obviously are oblivious to fps aiming mechanics for consoles.

The aiming mechanics have been drastically changed because, according to Ghost, “Long range combat felt squirrely.” I’m sorry, but long range as always required very small, precise movements and that took skill. This aiming system completely ruins all ranges of combat. The aiming deadzone and acceleration curves are so incredibly un-responsive now. It feels like I have syrup stuck in my analog stick.

If someone doesn’t notice the obvious change from EVERY Halo game in the past, then you just aren’t at a high enough level of play to notice it. You probably play on some large HDTV with so much input lag that you actually don’t even know that you have awful input lag with every single game you’ve ever played and you probably think that’s normal and don’t know any better. Try playing on a computer monitor and you’ll be shocked. I really don’t understand how people don’t notice what is going on in terms of the deadzone and aiming acceleration in this game. If you don’t notice it, then that’s fine, move along. But those who are getting defensive and talking -Yoink- to those of us who are demanding an option to go back, you’re just a casual.

Again, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with aim assist or ads. If you don’t know what aiming acceleration or deadzone is, you’re just not at a high enough level of play to notice.

The aiming is crap! And let’s not mention the radar. What’s the point of having radar when you can sprin acrost the map and be in someone face before it even shows up. And the 4v4 maps have way to much clutter and stuff to get caught up on. Other than that I love it! Thank you 343 for a good game. Halo just needs a few things fixed and it will be the best halo ever. Oh and could you add some social slayer I hate having to play serious mode every game BC everyone is in try hard mode!

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> I find it hilarious how upset people are by the lack of aim assist. It takes maybe a week to get used to. I love it.

It has nothing to do with aim assist, no one here mentioned aim assist, it has to do with the feel of the aim and how it reacts.

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> > > > > > > > If they don’t fix it by Tuesday then I’m done with this game. Aiming makes an already crappy Halo game even crappier.
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> > > > > > Because I’m not the only person that thinks the aiming is atrocious. And I pick Tuesday because it’s the usual release/patch/update day. If they don’t fix it then I’m not playing a broken game any further. That’s all I’m saying.
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> > > > > Lets get one thing straight here. Just because there are people who dont like the aiming, yourself included, does not mean that the aiming is broken. And I hate to break it to you, but you are in the minority with this one. The people that like the aiming out number those who dont. By a fairly large percentage too. So when you say something like “I hope they listen to us and make it like every halo before it”, just know that you are saying that 343 should cater to the wishes of a small percentage of people who want it changed, and then piss off the larger group who like it how is. Which is bat s*** crazy. I mean get real.
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> > > > Let’s get one thing straight here, you don’t know what you’re talking about. First off, do you have any legitimate source to show that the majority of people like the aiming? Or is it just you and the peeps on your friends list who you consider to be the majority?
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> > > > Early this week there was a poll on these forums that asked if there was a problem with the aiming. The 3 choices were yes, no, and I’m not having trouble but I acknowledge there is a problem. I am fairly certain that the poll eventually got removed however the last I saw, the results were: yes 50%, no 30%, and 20% for those not having a problem but still acknowledging there is an issue that should be fixed. Now I didn’t get the best grades in math when I was in school but I am fairly certain that that is 70% of the people polled claim there is a problem with the aiming. So again, how is it that you are so certain the majority of players are happy with the aiming?
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> > > > Now, it’s okay if you’re not noticing a problem with the aiming, that’s great, good for you. But a lot of people are and this isn’t just people complaining about not being good at the game. This isn’t in our heads, these are not excuses, and for the last time THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AIM ASSIST! The aiming is in fact (and I do stress FACT) broken. It has been proven by countless people at this point! Read the forums! Google it! Watch the Youtube videos! There is proof out there, no one is making this up. 343 has even acknowledged to some degree (despite that they are blaming it on some controllers) and have said that they will be addressing the issue.
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> > > > Bottom line, to everyone who doesn’t notice a problem, that doesn’t mean there isn’t one. To everyone who thinks this is an issue about aim assist, it’s not. And for all those players who are saying they have gotten used to it, so have I for the most part but that doesn’t mean it still shouldn’t be fixed. You shouldn’t be expected to get used to a broken aiming mechanic. What happens when you want to go play a different shooter that has smooth and precise aiming? Now you suck at that and you have to re-train yourself all over again. We shouldn’t have to get used to it, they should fix it. And I am fairly certain they will because of the proof out there that it is indeed a problem.
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> > > The only thing I’m even going to reply on this is. Get your facts straight. Do a search and read the post. Their are just as many people commenting that their is nothing wrong with the aiming as their are criers like you. Check out their stats. Much better then yours and they think its fine. So back to my point stop crying and play the game or get the hell off and let us enjoy it. As for your poll https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/6e35355aecdf4fd0acdaee3cc4156fd4/topics/aiming/bbedd88a-f6ae-4d54-b3dc-f062f2e80cf5/posts?page=1
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> > 44% is up from 343’s official 11% that disliked the game before launch. Almost half the player’s don’t like it, according to you. That’s rough.
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> I’m not the one who bought up the poll I just posted it because what was stated to me was incorrect and if the poll is based on the players… die hard or not, then how can it not even be close to accurate since they are the ones who are playing it. In that same case i could say, since I have seen just as many post of people saying there is nothing wrong with it the majority is in my favor and you saying it’s broke are the minority. I could also state trusting polls stating it was broke was put in place by haters so the bias there would also confirm my (and i state) opinion that the aiming is fine.
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> Here’s the facts. I have heard about the aiming issues and bullet magnetism since Halo 2. It’s the same thing over and over. There is nothing new posted from game to game. So if you don’t like it leave stop crying. If you don’t want to leave suck it up and play. I can understand posting I see some issues (make a list, describe why, debate it then move on) The games been out how long 10 days. Everyone who played the Beta or did any research on the game knew it was changing. The fact is, they don’t want it to improve (better word evolve) so they pick it apart complaining this isn’t halo. To compare look at COD from one it first cam out till now. The same people complain about the same things. Suck it up, keep playing and get better.

Which is exactly why those polls mean nothing at all - and if they do, it’s a glaring problem. You’ve placed yourself in a logical hole. Either you refute your own proof, or your proof works against you.

And it has nothing to do with Aim Assist. It’s about Aim Acceleration. It will hit you regardless of who you’re aiming at. Aiming issues and Bullet Magnetism have been problems since Halo 2 and this is the first Halo in a long time that doesn’t have those things, making the insane aim acceleration that much more frustrating.

Now tell me what’s so great about the current Aiming system that wasn’t better in this game’s own beta. Make a list. Describe why. Debate it. Hilariously, I’ve been doing those things for about 11+ months now - people on this site don’t give enough of a -Yoink- for it to mean anything. I’m met with “evolve,” “adapt,” “go play the MCC,” “you hate change,” all express ways of shutting down conversation instead of facilitating it. By reiterating the same talking points that have been thrown my way for an entire year - you show that you don’t want to debate. That’s what this is about.

So explain yourself. How is this an improvement from the beta’s aiming system? They’ve changed substantially.

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> The aiming in this game is total BS.
> I use to have loads of kills, headshots with previous Halo games. Aiming on Halo 5 is inaccurate and weird.
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> I used a Battle Rifle with scope kept shooting more than 5x on enemy head and they did not even die. Next enemy I shot with a pistol (2 shots) not even the aiming was accurate nor was it marked anywhere on the enemy and I don’t have a clue how I killed the enemy.
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Your’re just straight crap then. I’ve gotten many fluent kills and if you’re struggling then quit and go to cod with the rest of their community because that game takes barely any effort to get a kill. Dont blame the game, blame your crappy aim lol